Chris Bosh to Miami

• wildcats20

  

  No.
  
  Giving up Bynum for a slightly above average 4 is not a good move.
• wes_mantooth

  

  KR1245;414096 wrote:Well than I'm high as well. Chris Bosh cant carry a team by himself. He is a "star" but hes not a "superstar"

  
  This is my take as well.
  
  Even with this duo in Miami, I don't think they are a title contender...as they stand now. Easiest way to look at is...look at how they would match up against LA.
• BR1986FB

  gibby08;414114 wrote:It's amazing how fast some of you Cleveland people turned on Bosh so fast after pretty much kissing his ass for two months

  
  Sorry, can't really say I'm as much on the Bosh bandwagon as some others. I see him as a Stoudemire Part 2....ALL offense and couldn't defend my grandma. This is what Lebron wants...regardless of whether it's "good for the team." He wants another "star", ANY star. I don't think Bosh would be a great fit here. If we get him, great, but I think they could look in different directions and be a better TEAM.
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  gibby08;414027 wrote:Paul isn't getting traded

  
  I disagree ... the Nets were rumored to have a deal for Paul in place, but with Rod Thorn's situation in flux, the new Russian ownership wanted to hold off until their meeting with Lebron. Not saying the Nets land LBJ, but they may surprise some people in the next 2 days.
• dlazz

  I'd consider bosh a superstar. Wade and Bosh will get things done in Miami.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Bosh is without a doubt, a top 3 player at his position in the NBA. I would argue he's #1, but no one can say he's any worse than #3.
  
  If that means he's the 3rd option on a team, you are stupid. These are the same people who were claiming the Cavs brought in their robin with Jamison.
  
  edit: Only way he's a 3rd option is if Lebron joins them.
• thedynasty1998

  

  BR1986FB;414125 wrote:Sorry, can't really say I'm as much on the Bosh bandwagon as some others. I see him as a Stoudemire Part 2....ALL offense and couldn't defend my grandma. This is what Lebron wants...regardless of whether it's "good for the team." He wants another "star", ANY star. I don't think Bosh would be a great fit here. If we get him, great, but I think they could look in different directions and be a better TEAM.

  
  You are losing every ounce of credibility. Bosh is 10X the defender that Jamison is, yet the Cavs brought him in to make them a better team.
• wes_mantooth

  

  ^^^Bosh's weakness is defense. Not sure what games you have been watching. Even with that, I think he is #2 at that position...behind Gasol.
• j_crazy

  

  this is true, jamison is a liability on defense.
• jordo212000

  

  Yeah the Cavs fans jumping off the Bosh wagon is kind of funny. Hopefully an enterprising soul will go through and find all the pro-Bosh sentiment they were throwing out when it appeared likely that a sign and trade was going down. The tide has turned mighty quickly.
• thedynasty1998

  

  wes_mantooth;414148 wrote:^^^Bosh's weakness is defense. Not sure what games you have been watching. Even with that, I think he is #2 at that position...behind Gasol.

  
  I know, but Jamison is that much worse...
• thedynasty1998

  

  jordo212000;414150 wrote:Yeah the Cavs fans jumping off the Bosh wagon is kind of funny. Hopefully an enterprising soul will go through and find all the pro-Bosh sentiment they were throwing out when it appeared likely that a sign and trade was going down. The tide has turned mighty quickly.

  
  It's sad, really.
• wes_mantooth

  

  I still would have loved to have Bosh here. Not sure that he gets us over the hump....but it would have definitely kept the best player in the game here.
• thedynasty1998

  

  wes_mantooth;414163 wrote:I still would have loved to have Bosh here. Not sure that he gets us over the hump....but it would have definitely kept the best player in the game here.

  
  If Bosh doesn't get them over the hump, then they are screwed.
• wes_mantooth

  

  thedynasty1998;414166 wrote:If Bosh doesn't get them over the hump, then they are screwed.

  
  I agree, but even with Bosh....
  
  LBJ= Kobe
  Gasol=Bosh
  
  and the rest of the casts are a wash as well....would have been very interesting.
• BR1986FB

  thedynasty1998;414144 wrote:You are losing every ounce of credibility. Bosh is 10X the defender that Jamison is, yet the Cavs brought him in to make them a better team.

  
  Haha...YOU of ALL people questioning ANYONES credibility is laughable at best. Did I compare Bosh & Jamison defensively? No, I didn't. I implied that Bosh is not a good defender. Sure, he'd be nice to run the floor with Lebron OFFENSIVELY but he'd be a liability defending.
  
  And as far as "jumping off the Bosh bandwagon", if you read back a few days I've been mentioning that I'm not totally sold on Bosh as a fit for Cleveland's system, defensively. This isn't some new epiphany because he's not coming here.
• sjmvsfscs08

  LOL at my Cavalier brethren hating Bosh now.
• jpake1

  

  wildcats20;414108 wrote:No, a 1 and 2 should be able to take over a game at any point and dominate it. Bosh can not do that.
  
  Jordan and Pip could do it.
  Shaq and Kobe could do it.
  PP and KG could do it.
  Kobe and Pau can do it.
  
  Wade and Bosh...no
  Bron and Bosh...no

  
  Bosh isn't a mega stuperstar like some other guys, but he's a star. Look at the production. Pau wasn't anybody until he has a good team. Bosh will get his respect this year. To be fair, how many 2nd guys on a team in HISTORY have been able to dominate a game at any moment? I definitely think you were smoking on that statement. How many guys last year could do that as a 2nd? I would argue that those guys you named actually didn't do that either. Kobe/Shaq did at times. Pippen was great, but he couldn't pick and choose when to dominate a game. He wasn't Michael, not even close.
• IggyPride00

  

  One of the local beat guys in Miami that cover the Heat said the Raptors were stunned by his decision to goto the Heat, because they thought he would go wherever he could get max deal at, and were negotiating with teams accordingly. They have no real interest in anything Miami has to offer and are now scrambling.
  
  ESPN is reporting a sign and trade is very unlikely now.
  
  I will say this, if Bosh really walked away from the guaranteed 6th year just because he couldn't bear the thought of coming to Cleveland, that is really harsh.
  
  Sounds like momentum was really building toward a S&T with Cleveland and Bosh pulled the rug right out from under the Raptors and Cavs as neither team thought he would just sign somewhere else without a sign and trade in place.
• sjmvsfscs08

  IggyPride00;414311 wrote:Sounds like momentum was really building toward a S&T with Cleveland and Bosh pulled the rug right out from under the Raptors and Cavs as neither team thought he would just sign somewhere else without a sign and trade in place.

  
  So basically Florida's tax laws won the battle.
  
  Don't underestimate Lebron's camp thinking "well how sweet would no state income tax be for my billions I make from Nike, etc. be?" Because they definitely are considering it.
• Swamp Fox

  It would appear that perhaps a number of NBA stars prefer to be the focal point and not second fiddle to Lebron's powder routine. Winning to you and I may well be the most important thing but one has to remember that these men were once boys and boys are pretty egotistical. It may well be that the notoriety that comes with being a franchise's best player and best paid player is more important than how many rings you have at the end of a career. I don't know that for sure but I think it's worth considering.
• 2quik4u

  

  bye bye lebron
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• 2quik4u

  

  looks like jpake is gonna get a few more fellow heat fans on this board
• jpake1

  

  I think Miami makes the most sense from a winning standpoint, but my heart tells me he doesn't come. I can see a few places that make logical sense to him: Cleveland because of the most money (just by a bit) and it's home. NY because he has another stud and if he wins a ring there he's a God forever moreso than any other place, even Cleveland. Miami because he's be teaming with arguably two guys that are at the top 2 spots at their position and a great FO. I just can't see NJ, and never have since John Wall wasn't a thought. But like I've said, if he doesn't go to Miami when they're able to give him the max, I'll know that there are bigger things than winning a ring to him or that he's crossed the line between confident and arrogant. I'd still think he's a real cool dude and have a lot of respect for him, but I'd just have to sit back and laugh that he won't be getting a ring for a few more years because he believed in something he shouldn't have and missed out on the opportunity to get some bling.