Amare Stoudemire agrees to deal with Knicks

• sleeper

  

  Trueblue23;412080 wrote:IMO there are 3 TOP LEVEL players in the NBA, Kobe, LeBron and Dwade.
  
  
  Kevin Durant will probably make it 4 by the end of 2010-2011.

  You can go ahead and add Durant right now, and Howard too.
• jordo212000

  

  wes_mantooth;412074 wrote:Joe Johnson!!!!
  
  sorry, I am still laughing at Atlanta

  
  Same issue for Atlanta. Joe Johnson in a perfect world is not a max deal guy. Definitely would have excelled playing in Cleveland with James or in Chicago. However, teams like Atlanta have to show their fans they are "trying" to win and thus have to shell out $$$ to Johnson because who else in their right mind is going to sign in Atlanta. The Hawks' hands were tied IMO.
• Hb31187

  

  Trueblue23;412080 wrote:IMO there are 3 TOP LEVEL players in the NBA, Kobe, LeBron and Dwade.
  
  
  Kevin Durant will probably make it 4 by the end of 2010-2011.

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  Haha
• wes_mantooth

  

  Yeah, teams panic and guys like Johnson, Amare, and probably Bosh....benefit. These guys are not max deal guys....there are maybe 5 true max players.....Lebron, Kobe, Melo, Durant, and Wade.
• sleeper

  

  Oh yeah, and Melo.
• jordo212000

  

  Hb31187;412085 wrote:M
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  Haha

  
  I love Melo as a player. He would be incredible in NY with Amare. But to me, he is somewhere between Tier 1 and Tier 2. I'm not sure we'll ever see Melo carry his team to the Finals (single-handedly) And for me that's what makes you a Tier 1 player
• wes_mantooth

  

  jordo212000;412089 wrote:I love Melo as a player. He would be incredible in NY with Amare. But to me, he is somewhere between Tier 1 and Tier 2. I'm not sure we'll ever see Melo carry his team to the Finals (single-handedly) And for me that's what makes you a Tier 1 player

  
  I have always thought he was overrated, but this year I think he really stepped it up.
• Hb31187

  

  Kobe never single handedly took his team to the Finals.
• sleeper

  

  Hb31187;412093 wrote:Kobe never single handedly took his team to the Finals.

  
  Kobe is terrible.
• ytownfootball

  

  wes_mantooth;412087 wrote:Yeah, teams panic and guys like Johnson, Amare, and probably Bosh....benefit. These guys are not max deal guys....there are maybe 5 true max players.....Lebron, Kobe, Melo, Durant, and Wade.

  
  Gotta add Howard, at his position there really isn't anyone on par at present.
• wes_mantooth

  

  ytownfootball;412095 wrote:Gotta add Howard, at his position there really isn't anyone on par at present.

  
  Yeah...definitely. I always forget someone.
• Laley23

  

  Hb31187;412093 wrote:Kobe never single handedly took his team to the Finals.

  
  Nor Wade or Durant. So apparently LeBron and Howard are the only Tier 1 players.
• jordo212000

  

  Laley23;412100 wrote:Nor Wade or Durant. So apparently LeBron and Howard are the only Tier 1 players.

  
  I'd definitely give D-wade the benefit of the doubt. Shaq was on that team, but it was largely a D-wade championship
• sportswizuhrd

  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5356389
  
  Melo not going anywhere.
• jordo212000

  

  sportswizuhrd;412166 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5356389
  
  Melo not going anywhere.

  
  Yup. Melo going to be a free agent after this season.