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  • 2quik4u
    The Art of Hating Kobe Bryant

    by MARK GREY

    6.26.10

    As another NBA season is now behind us and Kobe Bryant has picked up his fifth title, his place in history is up for debate. Bryant who was once the clear cut poster boy for the post Jordan era of the NBA, is now the most polarizing figure in all of sports. Millions of people love the Lakers star, and millions of people hate him, but every basketball fan has an opinion on Kobe and are pretty passionate about it. It has gotten to the point where when someone asks whether or not you are a Kobe fan, it almost defines you as a person. It’s like asking if you are a Democrat or a Republican. While trying to debate Bryant’s place among NBA greats, I was amazed by how many Bryant haters there were. The number of haters was so great that I didn’t even find it fair to throw them all into one group. So just to be fair, I broke the Kobe Bryant haters up into groups so they are easier to identify.
    When you ask most Kobe Haters (we will call them KH for short) to talk about Kobe, the first thing you will hear is, “he’s not Michael Jordan.” What exactly does that mean? Jordan is regarded as the greatest basketball player who ever lived - is not being better than him a bad thing? I wonder if I brought a 7’6” man into these peoples living room if the first words out there mouth be, “he isn’t the tallest man to ever live.” I’m guessing they would be thinking more along the lines of, I don’t know if he is the tallest person to ever live but he damn sure is tall, and if he isn’t the tallest person ever, he sure is close. Saying Bryant is no MJ really isn’t saying anything, its just ignoring who he is because of who he is not.

    Then there is the group of haters who always seem to think Kobe is the second best player in the league no matter what. Let this group tell it, Bryant has been the second best player in the NBA for over a decade, but the number 1 player changes every other year. Somehow the number 1 player always seems to fall down the list but Kobe just never moves up. There was the he’s not better than Iverson debate that lasted for a couple of years, then there was the he’s not better than Tracy McGrady campaign which was followed by he’s not better than Steve Nash era -- hell even Chris Paul got his name mentioned for a year as the one guy in the NBA who is better than Kobe.This is the fan who has become a diehard Cavs fan out of nowhere. He is the same guy who years ago said that if Vince Carter or Tracy McGrady ever played with the best center in the NBA they would win a title too. His favorite line use to be "Kobe will never win without Shaq", but he never seems to remember saying any of that. He often has a lot to say in the regular season, but not so much in the playoffs.

    Which then brings us to the group that we will just call “Mr. Unrealistic-Casual fan.” That’s the guy who watches about 10-15 basketball games a year, normally at a bar where he isn’t even paying attention and by the time the game is over, he is too drunk to even tell you what happened in the game. He is the guy who yells out “all I know is when Shaq left, Kobe couldn’t even get out of the first round.” It’s hard to really argue with him because he is right, that is all he knows. He never mentions that Kobe lost in the first round to a Suns team that had All Star Shawn Marion as the third option, while the Lakers third leading scorer was Brian Cook.

    The next type of KH, is “Mr. I-know-basketball-more-than-you.” He normally is the guy who played basketball in High School and may have even walked on at a D2 school. He now coaches kids basketball so he thinks he has this ability to understand the game that no one else does, and can see things that you cant see and no one else can explain. He is the guy who says Kobe just doesn’t make others better, he says things like, you have to take Steve Nash over Kobe or no one wants to play with Kobe because he’s too selfish. When you ask him to explain why Nash has played on some of the most talented teams in the NBA over the last decade and hasn’t won anything, he really can’t answer you. He says Kobe doesn’t make anyone better but can’t explain why three years ago no one wanted Pau Gasol but now everyone seems to think he is the best thing since sliced bread.Three years ago, no GM in their right mind would have traded Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion, for Gasol and Odom, but for some reason this guy insists that Nash gets more out of his teammates then Kobe. This guy normally has a long list of players he would rather start a team with (Nash, Paul, LeBron, Dirk etc.) all of whom have never won anything even in college, but he can’t explain why because you just wouldn’t understand. When you ask him to name Bryant’s weakness, he gets frustrated trying to tell you, so he just tells you that you don’t understand the game like he does. Sounds pretty stupid, but who are you to argue? He does coach 6th graders. The more you listen to him, you can tell his hate for Kobe is deeply rooted. He secretly blames star players like Kobe for the reason his hoop dreams never panned out. If the star player on his college team had just passed more, coach could have seen all his talent. He will never tell anyone out loud, but in his heart he thinks he could have been better than Kobe if he was allowed to shoot more.

    The hardest guy to argue with is the history guy. He typically watches a lot of basketball and knows his stuff. He doesn’t like Kobe, but respects his game and as painful as it is to say, he will even admit that Kobe is the best player in the NBA today. He considers Kobe the best player of his generation, but will quickly tell you he is not one of the best ever. He will say Kobe is somewhere between 15th to 20th best player of all time. The problem with history guy is he can never name 15 players better than Kobe. He often starts reeling off names fast like Jordan, Magic, Bird, and Wilt. After spiting out four names really fast with ease, he throws out two more names, then just starts saying ridiculous things like Dr. J and Walt Frazier. In a last second effort to reach 10 players, he says George Mikan, even though not only has he never seen Mikan play, his father hasn’t either. He can never tell you who the remaining 7 to 8 players are who are better then Kobe but swears they exist he just can never think of them right now. While naming the greatest players of all time, he often changes the criteria for being great. He says Bill Russell has to be top 5 because its all about rings, then goes on to name a handful of players who he thinks are better then Kobe who combined have less rings than him. He always wants to point out that Kobe played with Shaq, but never wants to mention that Jordan, Bird, and Magic never won a title without another Hall of Fame player on their team. History guy knows his basketball, the only thing he doesn’t know is why Kobe isn’t one of the top players of all time.
    The most interesting of all the KH is hypocrite guy. He says one thing, but his hate for Kobe says another. He says he hates Kobe because he wants to be like Mike, but doesn’t even notice he is wearing a number 23 Cavs jersey. He says he can’t stand Kobe because he’s so arrogant, but his favorite player is a 25 year old who calls himself King and speaks in third person -- all while inviting us to “witness his greatness.” He is always complaining that today’s players only care about money and don’t care about getting better, but for some reason hates the player who works hardest in the NBA. He is often screaming that Kobe can’t win a title on his own in one breath, and in the second breath screaming LeBron needs help. He says things like today’s players have no respect for the players of the past, then turns around and says Kobe steals players moves from the past. He hates Kobe so much that he doesn’t even realize that stuff he says makes no sense. He calls every Kobe fan he knows every time Kobe has a bad game to say “I told you so” but he is the hardest guy to find every time Kobe has great game or hit’s a game winning shot. He always says he can’t stand Kobe because he wants to be like Jordan, even though every Saturday he himself hit’s the park in his Jordan shoes, Jordan socks, Jordan shorts and Jordan shirt and never forgets his Jordan bag full of Gatorade. Hypocrite guy doesn’t even realize everyone wants to be like Jordan including himself, the only difference is Kobe is the only one willing to put in the same work Mike did.

    Last but not least is “Ms. I-can’t-stand-him.” This is the female who obviously used to date Bryant, if you didn’t know any better. She often says I can’t stand him with so much passion that you can tell it goes deeper than basketball. She has a long list of reasons she hates him, and not one of them has anything to do with basketball. She doesn’t even have a favorite basketball team, she just roots for whatever team is playing the Lakers. If you watched her throughout the playoffs you would think she was a Suns, Thunder, and Celtics fan her whole life. There really is no need to argue with her because all she ever says is “ I can’t stand him” and all you can really do is wonder, does she know him?

    Does every super star in sports have his/her group of haters? Yes, but hating Kobe has gone to a different level, it has taken on an art form. While millions of Americans will admit to being a Kobe hater, there are several hundred thousands of fans out there who don’t even know they are Kobe haters. The saying goes, “it’s lonely at the top,” or as Jay-Z once said, “you don’t even know me and you mad. How it feel to be a hater, now I know exactly how it feels to be a Laker."



    http://www.playersvoice.com/nba/love-to-hate.html


    This is one of the most accurate articles I've ever read


    so which one are you?
  • Skyhook79
    Mr. I- know- basketball- more- than- you has to be sq_crazies.

    Mr Unrealistic-Casual fan has to be sleeper.
  • skank
    You guys have mastered the art of being pathetic.
  • skank
    I admit, I didn't read the whole article, but count me in the group that, "can't stand him because he is a phony and a rapist"....If that was one of the choices that is.
  • sleeper
    Kobe's a great player, but he's nowhere near as good as Lebron. When the only argument is "Kobe has a team award, Lebron doesn't have a team award", its pretty obvious who the best player in the league is.
  • sleeper
    Ever think the rape has anything to do with the hate?

    No, it has to be because he's so good, because Durant is good and everyone hates him. Wade is good, and everyone hates him Right? LOL
  • Mr. 300
    Kobe=GOAT with the hardware.

    Leboob= dumbass quitter
  • Automatik
    Wheres the article about "The Art of Being Obsessed With Another Man"??


    How does it feel to be on another guys nuts 24/7/365?
  • ytownfootball
    I don't hate the guy but I sure don't like him.

    He plays in a plastic state, for a plastic team in an ultra plastic city. It's all about appearances. His fans are those that stand in the check out line at the grocery store and leaf through the National Enquirer like their lives depend on it and hurriedly put it back when their turn comes. The stands are full of people who wear sunglasses in the dark. They've had enough plastic surgery to justify their attendance. Kobe has a little transgression in Colorado and denies everything, but buys his wife a 4 million dollar ring to make it alright. She stays with him because, well, in Hollywood, it's all good. He's selfish, a chucker, but his fans don't care, they roll like that too. And don't get me started on the self aggrandizing photo shoot.

    Yeah, I'm not a fan, but my reasons certainly have nothing to do with what this ass clown thinks.
  • Early Cuyler
    Automatik;402682 wrote:Wheres the article about "The Art of Being Obsessed With Another Man"??


    How does it feel to be on another guys nuts 24/7/365?

    How is this any different from Cavalier fans who have LeBran's balls in their mouth constantly?
  • Pick6
    Early Cuyler;402801 wrote:How is this any different from Cavalier fans who have LeBran's balls in their mouth constantly?

    yes, because they are all kinds of lebron fans on here making threads claiming he is the greatest...

    we dont do that because there really is no argument, and we dont need to make our dick hard wishing he is the best, like the laker fans.
  • Automatik
    Early Cuyler;402801 wrote:How is this any different from Cavalier fans who have LeBran's balls in their mouth constantly?
    Yeah...its not. Regardless.....its still incredibly strange IMO. The lengths that people go to defend them is ridiculous.
  • Early Cuyler
    Pick6;402835 wrote:yes, because they are all kinds of lebron fans on here making threads claiming he is the greatest...

    we dont do that because there really is no argument, and we dont need to make our dick hard wishing he is the best, like the laker fans.

    SMH. An incredibly laughable statement.
  • 2quik4u
    Pick6;402835 wrote:yes, because they are all kinds of lebron fans on here making threads claiming he is the greatest...

    we dont do that because there really is no argument, and we dont need to make our dick hard wishing he is the best, like the laker fans.

    lol
  • skank
    Pick6;402835 wrote:yes, because they are all kinds of lebron fans on here making threads claiming he is the greatest...

    we dont do that because there really is no argument, and we dont need to make our dick hard wishing he is the best, like the laker fans.

    95% of them never being west of the Ohio/Indiana state line.
  • thedynasty1998
    When and who did Kobe rape?
  • wes_mantooth
    thedynasty1998;403222 wrote:When and who did Kobe rape?

    Boston Celtics...... about a week ago.
  • Heretic
    Skank
    Do you actually have any knowledge, insight or ability to hold an intelligent conversation about ANY team (including ones you follow)? It seems like every post you make is about bandwagoning fans, "I did your mom" jokes, and comments concerning alleged rapes.

    Damn, when you talk about bandwagoners...look in the mirror, "Mr. I'd Rather Rip on Fans of Other Teams Than Talk About My Own". I'd guess the vast majority of people you'd call a "bandwagoner" know more about their teams than you do about yours, as you only seem to exhibit the ability to make grade-school insults towards others. You're as big of a joke as Capone -- all lame insults, no intelligent commentary.
  • Con_Alma
    I am completely indifferent about the guy. He's just another part of the entertainment industry called the NBA.
  • Pick6
    wes_mantooth;403223 wrote:Boston Celtics...... about a week ago.

    your getting him mixed up with gasol and artest.
  • Laley23
    This thread has LAWLZ all over it.

    I dont hate Kobe the player. I really like to watch him play. He, Durant, LeBron, and Wade are the 4...and pretty much only 4, players who I find myself actually watching.

    I dont even hate Kobe the person as he is now. But that doesnt excuse the past, and rape or not, he was unfaithful to his wife which to me is inexcusable and a horrible quality. But I am no one to not forgive, hell Ive needed forgiveness for plenty in my life (although nothing as bad as Kobe) but if his wife can forgive him, so can I.

    Same sort of principle as with Tiger. I LOVE Tiger the athlete, but he is a POS person. He obviously was worse than Kobe, but again, same principle.
  • Pick6
    how was tiger worse than kobe? just because he slept with more women? cheating is cheating. it doesnt matter if you do it once or 20 times. Last I checked, even with all of those women, tiger has never been accused of rape.
  • wes_mantooth
    Pick6;403332 wrote:your getting him mixed up with gasol and artest.

    haha...good point.
  • 2quik4u
  • Laley23
    Pick6;403384 wrote:how was tiger worse than kobe? just because he slept with more women? cheating is cheating. it doesnt matter if you do it once or 20 times. Last I checked, even with all of those women, tiger has never been accused of rape.

    Because once can be credited to a mistake. Cheating is cheating, but cheating is NOT having an affair. If you think so than thats fine, but I dont think they are the same.

    If Kobe DID rape her than yeah, way worse than Tiger. But as it stands, it was just infidelity so based on what I know for certain I will continue to think Tiger is way worse.