Whats more impressive? Hitting for the cycle or throwing a no-no in MLB?

• thavoice

  what is more impressive?
• thavoice

  There are around 289 cycles hit in MBL....and around 281 no hitters.
  
  Give or take a few depending on when the site was updated....but i do know they have been been always pretty close together....
  
  MEdia makes a big deal out of the No-No's...but not quite the cycle.
  
  Ya think..it is harder to hit for the cycle....as in each game if you take the amount of players who have 4 ABs in a game....vs how many players....two...have a chance at a no no that day. Id say most games 18 guys/game have a chance at a cycle.
  
  but I still think a No No is more impressive...even tho the cycle is more rare based on the probability...
• darbypitcher22

  

  I think its a no hitter... you've got to have a lot of luck to do both, but I think the level of precision needed to not give up any hits is something on another level...
• Hb31187

  

  No Hitter.
  
  Cycle you pretty much just own the pitcher and put the ball into gaps and hit a HR.
  
  No hitter...you own the entire opposing team
• Fab1b

  

  Both are great but I'd say the no-no is more impressive
• Glory Days

  

  darbypitcher22;375498 wrote:I think its a no hitter... you've got to have a lot of luck to do both, but I think the level of precision needed to not give up any hits is something on another level...

  
  you can also look at it as you also need your defense to help you for a no hitter. when you are batting, its basically all up to you.
  
  4 HRs in a game is the most elite club i think i saw them mention on sportscenter. i think it has only happend 15 times, compared to 20 perfect games.
• Leonardo

  

  No-hitter for me.
• darbypitcher22

  

  you do need to get lucky and get some help from your defense as well... in a No-No/Perfecto there's always one or two or three plays that get made that are absolutely phenomenal to keep things going
• End of Line

  

  Both are impressive, but I gotta go with the No hittter.
• Strapping Young Lad

  

  I heard that the only thing statistically harder then throwing a perfecto is hitting 4 HR's in a game.
  
  Edit: Someone beat me to it.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Strapping Young Lad;376011 wrote:I heard that the only thing statistically harder then throwing a perfecto is hitting 4 HR's in a game.
  
  Edit: Someone beat me to it.

  
  I am sure someone has done it recently, but I can still remember Mark Whiten hitting 4 hrs back in the day.
• Laley23

  

  No hitter, no question.
  
  Cycle you hit the ball well for a day, 4 times. But it is mostly about lucky placement and/or pure speed on the triple and maybe the double.
  
  btw, if you want to take the probability talk you could say in a cycle you just have to be good 4 swings. In a no-no you have to be good/great for at least 27 batters and who knows how many pitches.
• BRF

  

  Yeah, Mark Whiten, former Tribe guy..........oh well...............I think Rocky Colavito hit four homers in a game........for us......a LONG time ago.
  
  I'm going to have to say that pitching a no-hitter is better, seems like hitting for the cycle is rarer (although theVoice posts up that there are more cycles than no-nos.....that is kind of hard to believe for me....but if you said it, so be it) and is quite an accomplishiment but it's like apples to oranges on this one.
  
  Andre Thornton hit for the cycle in 1978, and the last Tribe guy to do it was Hafner in 2006.
  
  I found this interesting blurb on Wiki:
  
  <<On July 7, Hafner became the first player in Major League history to hit five grand slams before the All-Star break and passed Al Rosen in the team's season record book when he homered off Kris Benson of the Baltimore Orioles. He joined Hall-of-Famer Ernie Banks of the 1955 Chicago Cubs, Jim Gentile of the 1961 Orioles and Don Mattingly of the 1987 Yankees as the only players to hit at least five grand slams in a season. In September 2006, the Seattle Mariners' Richie Sexson also joined the five grand slam club.
  
  A little more than a month later, on August 13, Hafner tied Mattingly's single-season record when he hit his sixth grand slam of the season off Luke Hudson of the Kansas City Royals.>>
• BlueDevil11

  

  ^^^
  I miss that Hafner
• AcidBurn

  

  cycle. especially after the pitcher knows whats at stake on your fourth plate appearance. all he has to do is throw junk and walk or hit the batter and boom you're done. the pitcher can control if you hit for the cycle whereas the batter has to get really lucky. if he lets you then he's a dumbass.
• HitsRus

  

  There is a certain amount of luck in both, but really it takes a lot of luck and the right circumstances to hit for the cycle. There are a lot of guys who just don't have the speed to have a chance for a triple, the venue has a HUGE influence in being able to get a triple also....and frankly...as a hitter, no one has the ability to hit an 85+MPH pitch and perfectly place it such that one gets a triple instead of a double or a HR.
  On the other hand...a No-No is just plaain dominace...a dominance that the pitcher has a hUGE amount of control over. I'm much more impressed with a No hitter.
  
  Hitting for the cycle is kind of a statistical oddity/rarity...kind of like a triplicate in bowling.
• Footwedge

  No hitters are mainly luck...not skill. The best pitchers in all of baseball, for the most part, never threw a no hitter.
• Mooney44Cards

  

  BRF;376053 wrote:Yeah, Mark Whiten, former Tribe guy..........oh well...............I think Rocky Colavito hit four homers in a game........for us......a LONG time ago.
  
  I'm going to have to say that pitching a no-hitter is better, seems like hitting for the cycle is rarer (although theVoice posts up that there are more cycles than no-nos.....that is kind of hard to believe for me....but if you said it, so be it) and is quite an accomplishiment but it's like apples to oranges on this one.
  
  Andre Thornton hit for the cycle in 1978, and the last Tribe guy to do it was Hafner in 2006.
  
  I found this interesting blurb on Wiki:
  
  <<On July 7,Hafner became the first player in Major League history to hit five grand slams before the All-Star break and passed Al Rosen in the team's season record book when he homered off Kris Benson of the Baltimore Orioles. He joined Hall-of-Famer Ernie Banks of the 1955 Chicago Cubs, Jim Gentile of the 1961 Orioles and Don Mattingly of the 1987 Yankees as the only players to hit at least five grand slams in a season. In September 2006, the Seattle Mariners' Richie Sexson also joined the five grand slam club.
  
  A little more than a month later, on August 13, Hafner tied Mattingly's single-season record when he hit his sixth grand slam of the season off Luke Hudson of the Kansas City Royals.>>

  
  July 1, 2006....Indians @ Reds.....Hafner was the logical choice to play 1B in Cincinnati but sat due to an elbow problem. They pinch hit him with the bases loaded later in the game....of course he hits a grand slam. I was there. The previous night....Adam Dunn hit a walk-off grand slam in the bottom of the 9th against Bob Wickman. That was a fun weekend! I was there for all 3 games.
• killdeer

  

  the no-no is 75:25 talent vs. luck...
  
  the cycle, while impressive, I think is the opposite ratio.
  
  also...in most cases, the no-hitter has significantly more ramifications in the game than a cycle hitter does.
• mattinctown

  No-hitter, easy
• SportsAndLady

  

  Cycle. On an average day, there are lets say 12 games. That's 24 starting pitchers. There are 18 starters in the field per game, so that's 216 starting hitters.
  
  The number of cycles and no hitters are about equal, so with 24 pitchers vs 216 hitters a night, you gotta think the cycle must be harder.