Tim Lincecum

• HeathAlum21

  Lincecum wins his 2nd Cy Young at just 25 years old. How many more do you think he will win? Many point to his mechanics and think they could cause arm problems down the road.
  
  I will put the over/under at four. What do you think?
• wes_mantooth

  

  Who knows.....but he is a beast. In a couple of years, he will probably be a Yankee.
• ts1227

  

  The real question will be: Should he pawn the trophy off for weed?
  
  I kid...
• Elliot Stabler

  He shouldn't have won in the first place this year
• HeathAlum21

  Elliot Stabler wrote: He shouldn't have won in the first place this year

  Disagree. I had him first by a considerable margin.
• Elliot Stabler

  Then you would be wrong:
  
  Lincecum:
  2.48 15-7 261 1.05
  
  Carpenter:
  2.24 17-4 144 1.01
  
  Wainwright:
  2.63 19-8 212 1.21
  
  Should have been Wainwright
• killdeer

  

  Lincecum is solid
  his mechanics are firm...
  (if there is a little hint of the "chronic")
  still the best pitcher in the National League.
  
  
  I was going for a haiku there...did i make it?
• ts1227

  

  Elliot Stabler wrote: Then you would be wrong:
  
  Lincecum:
  2.48 15-7 261 1.05
  
  Carpenter:
  2.24 17-4 144 1.01
  
  Wainwright:
  2.63 19-8 212 1.21
  
  Should have been Wainwright

  Based on those stats, I'd give it to Carpenter...
• HeathAlum21

  Carpenter and Wainwright both had outstanding D behind them. Take that away, and both of thier numbers inflate rapidly. Look at Wainwright's WHIP EVEN WITH the Cards D. Carpenter pitched 30 less innings than the other two, so that has to be taken into consideration. Lincecum should have won and he did.
• Nate

  Giants < Cardinals.
  
  That's a big difference between 15 wins and 17/19.
• justincredible

  

  Yeah, Lincecum was the right choice. Carpenter would've been fine as well.
  
  Wainwright was the least deserving. Wins are an overrated pitching statistic.
• Nate

  If Lincecum and Grineke were on different teams, their wins totals both would have been over 20.
• darbypitcher22

  

  Its not all about statistics. like others have said, you've got to take into account what each guy has around them. The Cards had a rediculous offense as well as good defense behind them. Lincecum had one of the WORST offensive teams in all of MLB. I like the choice. He's a great pitcher, with the MLB package I end up getting to watch him quite a bit. Many point to his mechanics being out of whack; that could pretty much be said for 1/2 of MLB pitchers. He gets the job done
• salto

  

  I wanted Wainright. I thought Carpenter deserved it. Am fine with Lincecum, even though I'm a die hard Cardinals fan. The race was too close between those three to think any one would have been wrong.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Elliot Stabler wrote: Then you would be wrong:
  
  Lincecum:
  2.48 15-7 261 1.05
  
  Carpenter:
  2.24 17-4 144 1.01
  
  Wainwright:
  2.63 19-8 212 1.21
  
  Should have been Wainwright

  Lol so you post those stats, meaning your basing the winner only on stats, and then don't choose the guy with the best stats of the group?
  
  FAIL
• tiger1990

  Cliff Lee was unhittable...too bad he didn't have enough time in with the Phils or this award was his
• Footwedge

  darbypitcher22 wrote: Its not all about statistics. like others have said, you've got to take into account what each guy has around them. The Cards had a rediculous offense as well as good defense behind them. Lincecum had one of the WORST offensive teams in all of MLB. I like the choice. He's a great pitcher, with the MLB package I end up getting to watch him quite a bit. Many point to his mechanics being out of whack; that could pretty much be said for 1/2 of MLB pitchers. He gets the job done

  
  Good post...especially regarding mechanics. I would say that his delivery is unorthodox...but mechanically sound. His dad taught him well on getting the most out of his little frame.
  
  Bunch of HOFers threw kinda weird. Before your time, Don Drysdale threw across his body. Jim Bunning had horrible form. Luis Tiant threw from every angle imagineable. Juan Marichal kicked his leg a foot higher than his head. (That was my style through high school).
• Footwedge

  I think Lincecum was the right choice. And they got it right with Greinke. Cy Young is for the best pitcher....not the best pitcher on a winning team.
• Mr. 300

  

  The Tribe could have had him. Wow, we'd have had a third CY winner traded off if we played our cards right.
• salto

  

  darbypitcher22 wrote: ...The Cards had a rediculous offense...

  Ridiculous is right. If they had scored the runs they should have they would have had three pitchers with 20+ wins, home field and gone deeper in the playoffs. They potentially had a great offense. Potential doesn't put runs on the board though.
• HeathAlum21

  Footwedge wrote:

  darbypitcher22 wrote: Its not all about statistics. like others have said, you've got to take into account what each guy has around them. The Cards had a rediculous offense as well as good defense behind them. Lincecum had one of the WORST offensive teams in all of MLB. I like the choice. He's a great pitcher, with the MLB package I end up getting to watch him quite a bit. Many point to his mechanics being out of whack; that could pretty much be said for 1/2 of MLB pitchers. He gets the job done

  
  Good post...especially regarding mechanics. I would say that his delivery is unorthodox...but mechanically sound. His dad taught him well on getting the most out of his little frame.
  
  Bunch of HOFers threw kinda weird. Before your time, Don Drysdale threw across his body. Jim Bunning had horrible form. Luis Tiant threw from every angle imagineable. Juan Marichal kicked his leg a foot higher than his head. (That was my style through high school).

  The reason I brought up his mechanics initially is longitivity. Many think that his violent throwing motion will lead to arm problems down the road, which would affect how many Cy Young Awards he would win (The initial question, though no one seemed to like it). I certainly hope his mechanics don't cause problems down the road, because right now he is the most enjoyable pitcher in the MLB to watch.
• Footwedge

  HeathAlum21 wrote:

  Footwedge wrote:

  darbypitcher22 wrote: Its not all about statistics. like others have said, you've got to take into account what each guy has around them. The Cards had a rediculous offense as well as good defense behind them. Lincecum had one of the WORST offensive teams in all of MLB. I like the choice. He's a great pitcher, with the MLB package I end up getting to watch him quite a bit. Many point to his mechanics being out of whack; that could pretty much be said for 1/2 of MLB pitchers. He gets the job done

  
  Good post...especially regarding mechanics. I would say that his delivery is unorthodox...but mechanically sound. His dad taught him well on getting the most out of his little frame.
  
  Bunch of HOFers threw kinda weird. Before your time, Don Drysdale threw across his body. Jim Bunning had horrible form. Luis Tiant threw from every angle imagineable. Juan Marichal kicked his leg a foot higher than his head. (That was my style through high school).

  The reason I brought up his mechanics initially is longitivity. Many think that his violent throwing motion will lead to arm problems down the road, which would affect how many Cy Young Awards he would win (The initial question, though no one seemed to like it). I certainly hope his mechanics don't cause problems down the road, because right now he is the most enjoyable pitcher in the MLB to watch.

  I understand your point. I just don't happen to agree that his motion will lead to a higher propensity for arm problems.
  
  Kerry Wood has pretty good form. So does Jake Westbrook. Nobody can predict who will go down and who won't.
  
  When I pitched, I cleared my head to the left and came in over the top at high noon. Way back then, the "experts" taught us that 3/4 or sidearm was a nn-no. I blew out my rotator cuff in high school.