Most Disappointing Players in the Playoffs so far
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thedynasty1998Phoenix has a better record since the all star break than the Lakers. Utah played really well against Denver, but ran into their worst possible matchup in the Lakers.
You think Rondo is good, imagine what Derron Williams would do to the Cavs. -
SQ_CraziesI think Rondo is better than Williams. ESPECIALLY against the Cavs. I'm imagining what Williams would do, and it doesn't come close to what Rondo DID yesterday.
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SportsAndLady
u dumbSQ_Crazies wrote: I think Rondo is better than Williams. -
SQ_CraziesI'd say my argument is every bit as strong as your argument for DWill would be. No doubt they're both very good. As far as the Cavs are concerned, we match up better with DWill than we do Rondo.
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Nate
Agreed.SQ_Crazies wrote: I'd say my argument is every bit as strong as your argument for DWill would be. No doubt they're both very good. As far as the Cavs are concerned, we match up better with DWill than we do Rondo. -
thedynasty1998I might agree with you regarding Rondo being a worse matchup for the Cavs, but Williams is by far the better player.
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SQ_CraziesBy far? Really?
You may want to think about that. -
thedynasty1998Yes, without a doubt. Rondo is playing lights out, but let's keep it in perspective.
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SQ_CraziesIn perspective? He's every bit (probably more) the floor general that DWill is, faster, probably a better rebounder, IMO has better court vision and is a much better defender. Not as well rounded a scorer, but he can sure a shit score.
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thedynasty1998Williams averaged: 18.7 ppg, 10.5 apg, 4.0 rpg, 1.3 spg, 47% from field
Rondo averaged: 13.7 ppg, 9.8 apg, 4.4 rpg, 2.3 spg, 51% from field
Like I said, let's keep it in perspective. He's lighting up the Cavs, but it's not like he played like this all year. He has elevated his game moreso than anyone else in the playoffs this year. -
ZeroCoolif williams had pierce, garnett, and allen to dish to......... just think.
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SQ_CraziesSo....what makes Williams better? Higher PPG? I don't put that too high on my list of priorities when comparing the two (it usually isn't the most important stat for a PG)--Williams has to score more on the team he is on anyways. Rondo shoots a higher percentage. Look at what Rondo does in the playoffs when teams try to lock down some of the big 3. One of the best defenders in the game as well. I'll still take Rondo.
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2quik4u
lolthedynasty1998 wrote: I don't think it would be unfair to throw Lebron's name out there. Sure he has played great at times, but he has looked average at other times (last night). When you are arguably the best player in the NBA and talk about a Championship all season, you can't go out without a sense of urgency and not bring it every single game. -
2quik4ujosh smith and joe johnson should be in everyones top 3
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Pick6
they both blew giant dick against orlando.2quik4u wrote: josh smith and joe johnson should be in everyones top 3 -
SQ_CraziesNo shit. IMO, I think Joe Johnson might have cost himself some money. I sure as hell wouldn't throw a max deal at him--although there is a scenario where the Knicks could be desperate enough to do it.
Although, IMO, I don't think everyone should be THAT shocked. They're the same team and they got swept by the Cavs last year and Orlando is even more of a nightmare match up for them than Cleveland is. I knew this would be a 4 game series, though I didn't believe it'd be this ugly. But it really isn't that surprising to me, look at their roster--they don't match up with Orlando AT ALL. The way they've built that team down there makes it hard for A LOT of teams to match up with them. -
Trueblue23Boozer played like shit against the Lakers
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wildcats20I honestly think the Knicks would throw a max deal at a high school frosh right now
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2quik4u
I wouldn't doubt it they have had such bad contracts beforeSQ_Crazies wrote: No shit. IMO, I think Joe Johnson might have cost himself some money. I sure as hell wouldn't throw a max deal at him--although there is a scenario where the Knicks could be desperate enough to do it. -
thedynasty1998
The fact that Williams was 2nd team All NBA and Rondo wasn't would make me believe that a majority think Williams is better.SQ_Crazies wrote: So....what makes Williams better? Higher PPG? I don't put that too high on my list of priorities when comparing the two (it usually isn't the most important stat for a PG)--Williams has to score more on the team he is on anyways. Rondo shoots a higher percentage. Look at what Rondo does in the playoffs when teams try to lock down some of the big 3. One of the best defenders in the game as well. I'll still take Rondo. -
devil1197Williams once again has overall had a bad playoff outing. He has had a couple good games but his lack of defense has put Cleveland in a tough situation (one that I think they will get out of alive!).
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goldengonzoI shake my head at anyone that offers Joe Johnson a max contract. Look at his resume. What makes it scream that he's a number-one guy that can lead you far into the playoffs?
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se-alumD-Will is better than Rondo, but Rondo has the better players around him, and is a tougher matchup for the Cavs. I would rather deal w/ the size of Williams, than the quickness of Rondo.
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goldengonzoRondo has been nothing short of incredible in these playoffs, but I think he's just the perfect fit for this Celtics team. I'm not so sure if he switches places with D. Williams and he's as effective.
The one knack on Rondo is his poor shooting. If he improves that, then look out. The Top Three Point Guard debate seems to change every other month. -
2quik4uif he could consistently hit a jumpshot, then he would be the best pg