In the most cruel and despicable way, France qualifies for the World Cup

• SportsAndLady

  

  Thierry Henry...come on man
  
  
  
  I'm not sure a player could feel any worse than what those Ireland players must have felt...had a World Cup spot wrapped up, only had to withstand a few more minutes of play, and then Thierry Henry does that.
  
  Here's to a French early exit next summer!
• hoops23

  

  Yeah, that was pretty terrible.
  
  Also hilarious that when asked about it, Henry admitted to it and said it's the refs job to call it, not his.
  
  Which is true.
• Automatik

  

  What happened? Vid is gone.
  
  He flopped?
• mucalum49

  

  Automatik wrote: What happened? Vid is gone.
  
  He flopped?

  Hand ball in the box, passed it to a teammate for the goal off of a header. Ended in a 1-1 tie but France advances to the World Cup.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Try this til they take it down
  
  
• GOONx19

  

  It was a bad call, but I don't see how you can be mad at Henry. If the ball's going out you might as well make an attempt. It's not like MJ's gonna tell the refs not to count The Shot because he pushed off. If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.
• Mulva

  

  The first guy who touched it was offside too. The refs blew it twice on that play.
  
  I've always hated Henry and France. I hope they don't score a goal again (a la 2002).
• End of Line

  

  Thats horrible.
• rock_knutne

  Ireland is demanding a replay of the match:
  
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=700747&sec=worldcup2010&cc=5901
  
  Can't say I blame them, absolute terrible way to lose.
• rock_knutne

  Here's a video clip that won't be removed:
  
  http://crazymotion.net/thierry-henry-handball-goal-video-le-hand-of-god-goal-puts-france-past-ireland/whZ_twPK_KAwjAy.html
• rock_knutne

  SportsAndLadies wrote:I'm not sure a player could feel any worse than what those Ireland players must have felt...had a World Cup spot wrapped up, only had to withstand a few more minutes of play, and then Thierry Henry does that.

  
  Actually, if Henry's hand ball would have been called and the game ends in a 1-0 Irish victory, the playoff would have ended at 1-1 on aggregate.........they would have gone to extra time and possibly penalties to decide the winner.
• patriots34

  it was already in extra time... it was 15 minutes from being a pk shootout
• DeyDurkie5

  

  rock_knutne wrote:

  SportsAndLadies wrote:I'm not sure a player could feel any worse than what those Ireland players must have felt...had a World Cup spot wrapped up, only had to withstand a few more minutes of play, and then Thierry Henry does that.

  
  Actually, if Henry's hand ball would have been called and the game ends in a 1-0 Irish victory, the playoff would have ended at 1-1 on aggregate.........they would have gone to extra time and possibly penalties to decide the winner.

  no, away goals dog.
• Mulva

  

  DeyDurkie5 wrote:
  
  no, away goals dog.

  No, both legs would have been 1-0 in favor of the away team.
• Laley23

  

  DeyDurkie5 wrote:
  
  no, away goals dog.

  Nope. If it is 1-0 both legs and 1-1 aggregate than away goals HAVE to be even.
  
  Ireland didnt have it wrapped up. They had a chance to take it to PKs. Henry feels bad and himself has called for a replay of the match saying its the only fair way.
• gorocks99

  

  DeyDurkie5 wrote: no, away goals dog.

  
• BCSbunk

  Laley23 wrote:

  DeyDurkie5 wrote:
  
  no, away goals dog.

  Nope. If it is 1-0 both legs and 1-1 aggregate than away goals HAVE to be even.
  
  Ireland didnt have it wrapped up. They had a chance to take it to PKs. Henry feels bad and himself has called for a replay of the match saying its the only fair way.

  Okay non-soccer person here.
  
  What in the world are you guys talking about? Legs? Aggregate? Away goals?
  
  Why would Ireland if they win 1-0 have to go to PK's? I am missing something here can someone clear this up for a noob at soccer?
• ohiobucks1

  

  BCSbunk wrote:

  Laley23 wrote:

  DeyDurkie5 wrote:
  
  no, away goals dog.

  Nope. If it is 1-0 both legs and 1-1 aggregate than away goals HAVE to be even.
  
  Ireland didnt have it wrapped up. They had a chance to take it to PKs. Henry feels bad and himself has called for a replay of the match saying its the only fair way.

  Okay non-soccer person here.
  
  What in the world are you guys talking about? Legs? Aggregate? Away goals?
  
  Why would Ireland if they win 1-0 have to go to PK's? I am missing something here can someone clear this up for a noob at soccer?

  
  They play a HOME and HOME format (First leg was in Ireland, second leg in france)
  
  France won the game IN IRELAND 1-0
  Ireland would have won the game IN FRANCE 1-0
  
  In some soccer tourneys, away goals count as a tiebreaker
  
  Since it would have been 1-1, with the tiebreaker (away goals) being even at 1 each, it would have gone to OT and then if no one scored, PKs
  
  
  Hope that helped.
• Trueblue23

  

  hahah not his fault at all
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Yeah Laley, I'm retarded ignore my post!
  
  Gorocks, touche lol
  
  and TrueBlue, how is that not his fault at all?
• mucalum49

  

  DeyDurkie5 wrote: Yeah Laley, I'm retarded ignore my post!
  
  Gorocks, touche lol
  
  and TrueBlue, how is that not his fault at all?

  I think he means for the call. Henry just played till he heard the whistle and there wasn't a hand ball called so he just kept going.
  
  Since that game Henry has been very classy in his interviews and I think he feels like the World Cup spot shouldn't be France's without some way to give Ireland a fair chance.
• BCSbunk

  ohiobucks1 wrote:

  BCSbunk wrote:

  Laley23 wrote:

  DeyDurkie5 wrote:
  
  no, away goals dog.

  Nope. If it is 1-0 both legs and 1-1 aggregate than away goals HAVE to be even.
  
  Ireland didnt have it wrapped up. They had a chance to take it to PKs. Henry feels bad and himself has called for a replay of the match saying its the only fair way.

  Okay non-soccer person here.
  
  What in the world are you guys talking about? Legs? Aggregate? Away goals?
  
  Why would Ireland if they win 1-0 have to go to PK's? I am missing something here can someone clear this up for a noob at soccer?

  
  They play a HOME and HOME format (First leg was in Ireland, second leg in france)
  
  France won the game IN IRELAND 1-0
  Ireland would have won the game IN FRANCE 1-0
  
  In some soccer tourneys, away goals count as a tiebreaker
  
  Since it would have been 1-1, with the tiebreaker (away goals) being even at 1 each, it would have gone to OT and then if no one scored, PKs
  
  
  Hope that helped.

  Yes I think so. So margin of victory is used in some cases to settle ties since it is home and home.
  
  For example IF Ireland would have won at home 3-0 and France wins at home 2-0 Ireland would have the advantage?
  
  Is that correct?
• SportsAndLady

  

  Well they would have 3 goals and France would have 2 goals so yes they would win 3-2
• Laley23

  

  BCSbunk wrote: Yes I think so. So margin of victory is used in some cases to settle ties since it is home and home.
  
  For example IF Ireland would have won at home 3-0 and France wins at home 2-0 Ireland would have the advantage?
  
  Is that correct?

  Yes, but I think you're still confused.
  
  First way to decide the "Tie" is to go aggregate (or total) score. Simply add the number of goals each team scored in the two games combined. Team with most advances.
  
  In the case both teams score the same amount (in the France/Ireland case, it was 1-1 after both matches) than you go to away goals. This means that you take how many goals each team scored on the road. Team with the most advances. Say Ireland had won 2-1 at home, and France won 1-0 at home. France would advance because they win the away goals scenario 1-0. However, in this case both teams won 1-0 on the road so the away goals were then tied 1-1. This means they play extra time.
  
  In extra time in a home and home format the goals scored in extra time DO NOT COUNT towards the away goal rules. So if Ireland had scored to tie France after they scored the goal in overtime in theory the aggregate at the end would be 2-2 and Ireland would win 2-1 on away goals. BUT this is not the case. Extra time is simply extra time with no away goals mattering. So if Ireland had scored to tie the match it would have been 2-2 aggregate and penalty shots would have ensued to see who won.
  
  As it stood, Ireland did not score and France was then ahead in the aggregate 2-1 and advanced.
  
  For those confused as to why the game went to extra time when Ireland was winning 1-0 after the 90 minutes it is because France won 1-0 in the first game. I basically said that in the first part, but just reiterating it to make it clear.
  
  
  NOW, I hope you get it. It will help you if you watch the Champions League knockout rounds. Teams often play to not concede an away goal in the first match. They REALLY play matches with both games in mind.