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Mel Kiper Jr or Todd McShay???

  • 77Legend
    I know both can be overboard with their analysis of the NFL Draft, but who do you think has more cred?
  • dave
    neither
  • j_crazy
    Mayock.

    we've had this fight before.
  • IggyPride00
    Mel....by a mile.

    McShay is supposdely reviled by the league and has no respect among scouts. Mel is not universally loved, but he has been at this craft for a long time and has gained some respect over time throughout the league. That is not the case with Todd.
  • Scarlet_Fever
    I can't stand Kiper and can't wait for the day McShay punches him right in the face. I'm not really a fan of McShay either but Kiper is an idiot and has been for a long time.
  • SportsAndLady
    Todd McShay takes it up the ass...soooo, Mel wins by default.
  • wes_mantooth
    I cannot stand either of them, but I guess I will pick Kiper.
  • End of Line
    They're both annoying as hell, end of story.
  • mallymal614
    Kiper. The draft preparation was much more enjoyable to watch until ESPN hired McShay.
  • 77Legend
    Mally.....the same guy that was Gun-Ho for USC's Mike Williams, and a few other busts....lol
  • Hb31187
    I cant stand to listen to Kiper
  • wes_mantooth
    77Legend wrote: Mally.....the same guy that was Gun-Ho for USC's Mike Williams, and a few other busts....lol
    To be fair....neither of them hit on too many of them.

    I listen to them because they are on tv, but honestly, I think we do just about as good of a job picking as they do.
  • TigerNation10
    Was there anyone not high on Mike Williams when he came out?
  • jpake1
    j_crazy wrote: Mayock.

    we've had this fight before.
    What he said. People respect him. People hate FagShay. Mel is in the middle. Listening to them bitch back and forth would probably resemble SQ and his victim in the flesh.
  • 77Legend
    Tiger Nation......hell no when he sat out for a year because he challenged the NFL 3-year rule.
  • BR1986FB
    Mayock is EASILY the best. He does his research, studies game film like a fiend, etc.

    Between the two mentioned, Kiper has the most cred. He still has some connections in the league. McShay is a blowhard who nobody respects.
  • KnightRyder
    kiper is a guy who used to hang around the colts trainning facility trying to get a job. no one in nfl takes any thing he says seriously . i remember the colts GM saying " mel kiper doesnt know anything about football"
  • thedynasty1998
    I don't really like either, much rather interested in hearing what Steve Young and Gruden have to say. If I had to pick, I'd say McShay.
  • hoops23
    I find it hard to believe anybody studies the draft more than Mel Miper.. After seeing what he owns/does/works it's pretty amazing.

    With that said, I don't like either one of them, but really hate Todd McGay. He's always trying to start shit with Kiper to begin with.

    Drafting will never be perfected by these so called "draft experts".. Fact is, none of them know more than any of us who watch the games know. They may know a little bit more about the smaller school guys though, because they watch more tape on them, among other things.
  • Bluepride13
    Maycock over these two...all day!
  • 77Legend
    Did anyone see them go at each other over Jimmy Clausen???? Hilarious!
  • Al Bundy
    If either of them were any good, some team would hire them.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Both douche bags, neither are anywhere near as good at their job as they think they are. But Kiper might be the most arrogant fuck on TV.