Aaron Harang..."the Harangatang"...is 0-3.

• killdeer

  

  this is a problem. when will the Reds realize that Aaron Harang is not a #1. He is not a #2, ....and possibly not a #3. You cannot continually trot him out there expecting him to be the stopper. It is early, and if the playoffs are at least a glimmer...changes need to be made.
• CinciX12

  

  Over/Under justin deletes this?
• killdeer

  

  Let me edit, that I am a Harang fan...I just think if the Reds realistically think they are goin' to go for it this year...pitching needs to be discussed early and often before July.
  
  Where does Oraldis fit in?
  
  If the Reds have no playoff aspirations this year...then just let it play out.
  
  the Big Red Smokies are delicious.
  
  I am one of the few that are just as apt to go to a Reds game when they are 10 games under .500;
  
  but what about the rest of you?
• justincredible

  

  Adam Harang? Never heard of him.
• justincredible

  

  CinciX12 wrote: Over/Under justin deletes this?

  How the hell can you have an over/under on something so absolute?
• killdeer

  

  justincredible wrote: Adam Harang? Never heard of him.

  
  
  good one!
• DaBrowns41

  I'd still be patient with Chapman. He's going to be special, but you don't want to rush him like Bailey and Cueto. Make the right decision with this kid and stick it out with Harang. He's struggling, but it's still April. There's still 5 months of baseball to be played. However, don't expect to see the Harang of a couple seasons ago. Those days are LONG gone.
• killdeer

  

  another thought is...how long will Walt Jocketty be content to watch a loser club continually stroll out there with no chance of competing...?
  
  It makes me sick to watch the B.R.M continually falter like this.
• dave

  If the other starters were thriving there would be more pressure on the front office to get Harang out of the rotation. As it stands now he will probably get another month to turn it around before anything is done.
  
  This will never happen but I would seriously think about a 6 man rotation, that way you can limit the innings of cueto, bailey, leake, and then wood/chapman. Of course if they can't go more than 6 it doesn't matter anyways. They only guy this would hurt IMO is Arroyo, he's proven he deserves to be out there every 5 days.
• CinciX12

  

  justincredible wrote:

  CinciX12 wrote: Over/Under justin deletes this?

  How the hell can you have an over/under on something so absolute?

  You act like its my fault I forgot to put a time constraint on it.
• justincredible

  

  CinciX12 wrote:

  justincredible wrote:

  CinciX12 wrote: Over/Under justin deletes this?

  How the hell can you have an over/under on something so absolute?

  You act like its my fault I forgot to put a time constraint on it.

  EVERYTHING IS YOUR FAULT!!!!
• Mulva

  

  12-34 since the beginning of 2008. That is impressively bad.
• Heretic

  

  DaBrowns41 wrote: I'd still be patient with Chapman. He's going to be special, but you don't want to rush him like Bailey and Cueto. Make the right decision with this kid and stick it out with Harang. He's struggling, but it's still April. There's still 5 months of baseball to be played. However, don't expect to see the Harang of a couple seasons ago. Those days are LONG gone.

  I'd agree with that, if not for the fact that through the couple weeks this season has lasted, Leake (who has no minor league experience) has been their most effective starter. As a Pirates fan, he really impressed me. They got to him early on, but he didn't lose composure and wound up shutting them down long enough to turn 2IP/3 runs to 7IP/3 runs. Harang's been poor for nearly two full years, Bailey hasn't shown the ability to consistently pitch well, neither has Cueto. The Reds really need to send a message to the dead weight (Harang) and/or the underachievers (Cueto/Bailey).
  
  With some intelligence, they're a playoff-potential team. But if they trot out ineffective starters most nights, they'll be an afterthought before the all-star game.
• BCBulldog

  

  This season is shaping up like I feared it might. If they keep this crap up, expect a whole bunch of moves by the break. Harang, Arroyo, Cordero, Rolen and anyone else not nailed down to the floor could be gone.
• thavoice

  Looks like he is 88-91 instead of 90-93. Not great location as he gets ball up in the zone...and looks like he has no movement on the ball.
  
  recipe for disaster....he is like batting practice.
• Big Red Monster

  Never has been the same pitcher since the relief appearance in San Diego.
• Big Red Monster

  Adam Harang?
  
  Another classic!
• Heretic

  

  Big Red Monster wrote: Adam Harang?
  
  Another classic!

  Damn! I didn't even notice that last night!
  
  Between Adam Harang, Joey Cueto, Bernie Arroyo and Honus Bailey, I don't know how this team could lose ANY games!
• LJ

  

  
• lhslep134

  

  killdeer wrote:

  justincredible wrote: Adam Harang? Never heard of him.

  
  
  good one!

  Are you an idiot?
• Big Red Monster

  Listening to a game in the first week of the season, I heard Votto called Johnny Votto on WLW.
  
  He must have some Johnny Bench in there somewhere, I dont know where, but it must be there.
• TigerNation10

  

  I would not be the least bit surprised to see Harang designated for assignment when Chapman is ready to be brought up.
• dave

  Justin changed the title to Adam last night for all of you out of the loop if you couldn't figure it out by his post.
• BCBulldog

  

  TigerNation10 wrote: I would not be the least bit surprised to see Harang designated for assignment when Chapman is ready to be brought up.

  No way. He makes way too much money for that. Plus, if he is injured, which I think he is, you don't want to just dump a guy that could return to form later.