Religion of Peace Strikes again...64 Christians
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sleeper
http://www.muslimpress.com/en/tiny/news-107959
Simply unbelievable. When are we going to stop calling them the JV team?...Nearly 240 Christians had been kidnapped and held hostage by militants since the start of the conflict more than a week ago.
...Lucman said after he had fled the city, Christians “couldn't leave the city, so I had to take responsibility in protecting them.”
...“The following days, other Christian workers took refuge in my house. There were about 64 of them in my hands and I was very determined that nothing happens to them,” he said, emphasizing that militants would only get to them “over his dead body.” -
jmog
Interesting that "Muslimpress" only mentions that the hero is a Muslim, they NEVER mention that the militants are Muslim and presumed to be from ISIS (have to find the story from other websites to get that information).sleeper;1856867 wrote:http://www.muslimpress.com/en/tiny/news-107959
Simply unbelievable. When are we going to stop calling them the JV team?
Did "old sleeper" come back for one post and then back to "new sleeper"? -
sleeper
Sorry, I'll be sure to only post Fox News articles to confirm your reality.jmog;1856964 wrote:Interesting that "Muslimpress" only mentions that the hero is a Muslim, they NEVER mention that the militants are Muslim and presumed to be from ISIS (have to find the story from other websites to get that information).
Did "old sleeper" come back for one post and then back to "new sleeper"? -
HitsRus
As bad as it may be for some Muslims in ISIS controlled territory, Christians are mercilessly persecuted to the point of genocide.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/middleeast/iraq-christianity-peril/
Despite this, under the Obama administration, the U.S. accepted thousands of refugees from the middle east, ...LESS THAN 1% were Christian.
http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494 -
sleeper
It's no surprise that a secret Muslim who wasn't born here would only want Muslims from majority Muslims countries instead of those infidel Christians.HitsRus;1856988 wrote:As bad as it may be for some Muslims in ISIS controlled territory, Christians are mercilessly persecuted to the point of genocide.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/middleeast/iraq-christianity-peril/
Despite this, under the Obama administration, the U.S. accepted thousands of refugees from the middle east, ...LESS THAN 1% were Christian.
http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494 -
HitsRus
That's a terrible thing to say....but I imagine you have to run the narrative that you and all the other Progressives have bought into.sleeper;1856989 wrote:It's no surprise that a secret Muslim who wasn't born here would only want Muslims from majority Muslims countries instead of those infidel Christians.
Actually, if you read the Newsweek article you might learn something. -
Zunardo
Very telling figures.HitsRus;1856988 wrote:As bad as it may be for some Muslims in ISIS controlled territory, Christians are mercilessly persecuted to the point of genocide.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/middleeast/iraq-christianity-peril/
Despite this, under the Obama administration, the U.S. accepted thousands of refugees from the middle east, ...LESS THAN 1% were Christian.
http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494 -
Dr Winston O'Boogie
To be a Christian in Iraq or Syria... I can't imagine what life is like feeling hunted like that.HitsRus;1856988 wrote:As bad as it may be for some Muslims in ISIS controlled territory, Christians are mercilessly persecuted to the point of genocide.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/middleeast/iraq-christianity-peril/
Despite this, under the Obama administration, the U.S. accepted thousands of refugees from the middle east, ...LESS THAN 1% were Christian.
http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494
That second article seemed horrible too, but upon investigating it a little, it's clear that the US isn't practicing some sort of discrimination against Christians. Case in point, Christians make up less than 1% of Iraq's population, yet they account for 15% of the total number of refugees accepted by the UN/US at the very same location where Syrian refugees are screened. The reason there aren't any Syrian Christians is that none of them are applying for refugee status. The most common theory it seems as to why this is so is that the Syrian Christians have largely fled to Lebanon due to that country's close ties to the Syrian Christian community.
So based on those points, I think Trumps assertion that there are so few Syrian Christians entering the US due to some sort of discrimination is false. -
HitsRus
^^^The article states it is "de facto discrimination", and it is due to the Unites State's policy of accepting only refugees from UN camps, and goes on to explain that there are no Christians in these camps because it is too dangerous.
In other words, there are ways we can help the situation, we just haven't been doing it.The solution would be to allow Christians, and other religious minorities, to apply directly for refugee status, not through the U.N. U.S. Senator Tom Cotton has introduced legislation doing just that. -
HitsRus
In 2011, Iraq's Christian population was over 6%....today it is less than 2%. The reasons cited are mass exodus from persecution, and fear of admitting it (Christianity) because of it.. Case in point, Christians make up less than 1% of Iraq's population, yet they account for 15% of the total number of refugees accepted by the UN/US at the very same location where Syrian refugees are screened -
isadoreGosh a ruddies, Isis just reflects the life of the founder of Islam.
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O-Trap
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CenterBHSFan
Obviously I'm not a fan of FGM. I think too many of the zealouts rely on hadiths as a means of controlling the women of their community.
I also absolutely detest Linda Sarsour and I can't believe that we share a common opinion. The little cockroach does have an ounce of feminism to her, I grudgingly admit. -
CenterBHSFan
Well, let's change Obama's infamous phrase of workplace violence to "workplace indifference".
I'm not surprised. If it doesn't have anything to do with oil, Saudi Arabia just isn't interested. It's not their "culture". -
salto
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HitsRus
^^^^seriously?
stuff like this just shows the ignorance of the person who made this meme.
SMH...not even comparable in the slightest. -
O-Trap
Ethno-religious (Irish Catholic) terrorism committed by a specific group (IRA) against people of a foreign land (England) with a predominant religious view toward which the terrorist group had been openly hostile (Protestantism ... Anglicanism, specifically)?HitsRus;1857763 wrote:^^^^seriously?
stuff like this just shows the ignorance of the person who made this meme.
SMH...not even comparable in the slightest.
It may not be a complete 1:1 comparison, but it's not THAT far off. -
salto
^this.O-Trap;1857774 wrote:Ethno-religious (Irish Catholic) terrorism committed by a specific group (IRA) against people of a foreign land (England) with a predominant religious view toward which the terrorist group had been openly hostile (Protestantism ... Anglicanism, specifically)?
It may not be a complete 1:1 comparison, but it's not THAT far off. -
HitsRus
Not even close. This is more like a civil war where terrorism is being waged against a foreign power occupying their homeland. The attacks are not against, France, Belgium, Germany, the United States... and have the limited purpose of removing the perceived occupier from their homeland and uniting all of Ireland. the IRA was not trying to recruit or radicalize the world's catholics to take up arms against and murder protestants worldwide. The comparison/analogy here is poor. The only similarities are that religion and terrorism are involved.
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majorspark
It is very far off on multiple levels. It was a conflict in which the terrorist acts occurred on two islands in Europe in very close proximity to each other. The objectives of the IRA were to liberate "in there minds" a small section of on of those islands. They did not project their attacks on civilians world wide. We did not have IRA attacks on the civilian population in the USA or in other continents nor in mainland Europe and not in all in the scope that is currently occurring by today's Islamic jihadists.O-Trap;1857774 wrote:Ethno-religious (Irish Catholic) terrorism committed by a specific group (IRA) against people of a foreign land (England) with a predominant religious view toward which the terrorist group had been openly hostile (Protestantism ... Anglicanism, specifically)?
It may not be a complete 1:1 comparison, but it's not THAT far off.
Though there were religious divisions in the conflict it was not based on it. Terrorist tactics were employed that is the only comparison. They were also not suicidal in nature either. I agree with Hits this is a localized civil manifestation of terrorism.
The meme would be like posting a picture of the Oklahoma City bombing and claiming a comparison. -
O-Trap
Something cannot be both a "civil war" and a war "against a foreign power," unless the foreign power is a third-party participant who has simply taken a side. It can be one or the other.HitsRus;1857806 wrote:Not even close. This is more like a civil war where terrorism is being waged against a foreign power occupying their homeland. The attacks are not against, France, Belgium, Germany, the United States... and have the limited purpose of removing the perceived occupier from their homeland and uniting all of Ireland. the IRA was not trying to recruit or radicalize the world's catholics to take up arms against and murder protestants worldwide. The comparison/analogy here is poor. The only similarities are that religion and terrorism are involved.
Beyond that, the global presence of American military is used as grounds for would-be terrorists to take up arms, as Americans are often seen as the oppressive occupier. And what religious affiliation is the United States connected to?
Worth noting, I think that part is irrelevant anyway, as the article never expresses the nationality of the terrorists. They could have been Filipino or not.
And the IRA was willing to recruit anyone if it served their purpose. Regardless of the goal, they believed their acts of terrorism to be harmonious with their faith.
The similarities are more than religion and terrorism being involved. A religiously and ethnically homogeneous group put into motion events that killed not only their intended targets, but those we'd deem innocent as well.
Yes, the geography was different, and the religions themselves were different. As I said, it's not a complete 1:1 comparison, but the differences don't address the point: Just as the majority of Catholics and Irishmen around the world were not involved with the IRA or its militant actions, so the majority of Muslims and "dark-skinned people" around the world are not involved with ISIS/Al-Qaeda or their militant actions.
The Oklahoma City bombing was by an individual with no ties to a religiously and ethnically homogeneous group. You'll have to come up with a better example for that to be accurate.majorspark;1857807 wrote:It is very far off on multiple levels. It was a conflict in which the terrorist acts occurred on two islands in Europe in very close proximity to each other. The objectives of the IRA were to liberate "in there minds" a small section of on of those islands. They did not project their attacks on civilians world wide. We did not have IRA attacks on the civilian population in the USA or in other continents nor in mainland Europe and not in all in the scope that is currently occurring by today's Islamic jihadists.
Though there were religious divisions in the conflict it was not based on it. Terrorist tactics were employed that is the only comparison. They were also not suicidal in nature either. I agree with Hits this is a localized civil manifestation of terrorism.
The meme would be like posting a picture of the Oklahoma City bombing and claiming a comparison.
Regarding the rest, see my reply above. -
HitsRus
If ISIS was confined to Iraq, and the United States had troops there and claimed the northern part of the country as their own, and the attacks were confined to American interests, then we could look at a "civil war" between Iraqian Sunnis and Shites with a 3rd party power involved as somewhat comparable. The IRA as bad as they were, had a negotiable political purpose, that is, the removal of British control of Northern Ireland.....what is the political purpose of ISIS?The similarities are more than religion and terrorism being involved. A religiously and ethnically homogeneous group put into motion events that killed not only their intended targets, but those we'd deem innocent as well.
This is a unique situation that requires a unique solution/response. Claiming the two different situations are the same or analogous for political purposes is not really helpful.
I think I've made my point. I don't look at this as being worthy of further debate. Go ahead and make any additional points you wish to make. -
majorspark
Exactly my point. It is not an accurate comparison. A picture and a few words in a meme does not accurately portray the situation. If the Irish catholics were infiltrating foreign nations around the world and blowing shit up you would see the same movements to extremely vet or ban them. The purpose of the meme is to imply religious bigotry. For that reason it is wholly inaccurate.O-Trap;1857808 wrote:The Oklahoma City bombing was by an individual with no ties to a religiously and ethnically homogeneous group. You'll have to come up with a better example for that to be accurate.
Regarding the rest, see my reply above.
HitsRus;1857822 wrote:This is a unique situation that requires a unique solution/response. Claiming the two different situations are the same or analogous for political purposes is not really helpful.
I think I've made my point. I don't look at this as being worthy of further debate. Go ahead and make any additional points you wish to make.
My thoughts exactly.
