Ohio looking into eliminating pay to play fees in school districts!

• sleeper

  

  Sonofanump;1752605 wrote:Not going to happen with today's society, this generation thinks school is nothing more than free babysitting so they can sit at home and collect the government hand outs.

  You won't find any disagreements from me. I grew up in a family of teachers.
• SportsAndLady

  

  ernest_t_bass;1752607 wrote:In my opinion, pay-to-play only means the school district is not allocating funds appropriately. We luckily do not charge pay-to-play, however we do charge in other areas. Here is the area that gets me every single year.
  
  School Supplies: $50(ish) from the store
  School Clothes: Whatever you want to spend
  SCHOOL FEES: $55 (and climbing) every freaking year
  
  I'm sorry... My elementary kids don't need to pay to go to freaking school. I think each grade should be accountable and give a breakdown of what these fees are actually paying for. When my kids have to bring Kleenex, Clorox Wipes, and other stupid crap as "supplies," then why the extra $$$ amount for "fees?"
  
  My gripe??? ... Our district runs a $7 million carryover.

  $55 a year? How does your community afford that?!
• ernest_t_bass

  

  SportsAndLady;1752616 wrote:$55 a year? How does your community afford that?!

  It's not the point. If your school had a huge carryover, you buy a lot of the school's supplies (not school supplies), wouldn't you expect those to be smaller?
• Tiernan

  sleeper;1752615 wrote:You won't find any disagreements from me. I grew up in a family of teachers.

  Jesus...I'd think you'd be smarter then.
• sleeper

  

  Tiernan;1752630 wrote:Jesus...I'd think you'd be smarter then.

  I graduated summa cum laude from one of the most prestigious universities in the country. I think I'm doing just fine.
• Tiernan

  It shames me we graduated from the same University. But I'll take my EE over your Summa Cum Sociology degree any day.
• sleeper

  

  Tiernan;1752636 wrote:It shames me we graduated from the same University. But I'll take my EE over your Summa Cum Sociology degree any day.

  Finance. Fisher College of Business.
• MontyBrunswick

  

  iclfan2;1752539 wrote: How did schools budget it prior to this?

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeRolph_v._State
  
  Specifically the background section
• bigkahuna

  hasbeen;1752606 wrote:With today's climate concerning concussions, a district/school/HFC should really be on top of ensuring their helmets grade out high enough to protect themselves. That doesn't mean you need the $300+ helmet. I believe the local school here has $275 helmets for grades 9-12 that have all been purchased within the last 5-6 years. Get a few new ones in and replace older ones, etc.
  
  That ends up being a priority.
  
  Heck of a lot different than back when we played. Concussion numbers have sky rocketed and it's because any type of head issues gets labeled a concussion and treated that way.

  I agree that they need to be safe, but safe doesn't mean state of the art/top of the line
• bigkahuna

  ernest_t_bass;1752607 wrote:In my opinion, pay-to-play only means the school district is not allocating funds appropriately. We luckily do not charge pay-to-play, however we do charge in other areas. Here is the area that gets me every single year.
  
  School Supplies: $50(ish) from the store
  School Clothes: Whatever you want to spend
  SCHOOL FEES: $55 (and climbing) every freaking year
  
  I'm sorry... My elementary kids don't need to pay to go to freaking school. I think each grade should be accountable and give a breakdown of what these fees are actually paying for. When my kids have to bring Kleenex, Clorox Wipes, and other stupid crap as "supplies," then why the extra $$$ amount for "fees?"
  
  My gripe??? ... Our district runs a $7 million carryover.

  
  What kills me is that my middle school aged kids pay $35, but my elementary kids pay $50 and have to have the bs tissues and what not. If you don't pay the fees, they hold the student's report card at ransom. I agree with you that it's bs
• hasbeen

  

  bigkahuna;1752695 wrote:I agree that they need to be safe, but safe doesn't mean state of the art/top of the line

  When studys/reports are done and your helmets are rating at/near the top, the fear is a lawsuit. In today's age, you don't take risks, other people are simply responsible for your well being.
  
  I'm not speaking from my opinion, but from experience.
• Ironman92

  

  My hometown school and the school where I teach....neither have pay to play (participate)
  
  My teaching district is very rural and quite poor. My hometown school has been fairly well off for some years.
• sportchampps

  New Albany is $650.
  
  Even at $650 that's still cheaper then what my parents paid per season for club soccer. I think my club team cost aroun $900 - 1k and that doesn't include travel or hotel rooms.
  
  Is it fair for each sport to pay the same amount when equipment and travel may cost more for one sport vs another.
• hasbeen

  

  sportchampps;1752788 wrote:New Albany is $650.
  
  Even at $650 that's still cheaper then what my parents paid per season for club soccer. I think my club team cost aroun $900 - 1k and that doesn't include travel or hotel rooms.
  
  Is it fair for each sport to pay the same amount when equipment and travel may cost more for one sport vs another.

  Some sports don't cost as much, but also bring in little. There should be a way to calculate cost, revenue, etc and create a percentage scale.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  hasbeen;1752871 wrote:Some sports don't cost as much, but also bring in little. There should be a way to calculate cost, revenue, etc and create a percentage scale.

  Boys football and boys basketball typically support all the other sports, in that they typically bring in the lion's share of the profits.