"Straight week" shot down at YSU
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friendfromlowryhttp://www.whio.com/news/ap/ohio/ohio-university-removes-posters-for-straight-pride/nk247/
So student body leaders and university officials removed propaganda from around the university because it went beyond free speech as well as containing vulgar language. IMO, the university unnecessarily opened a can of worms by bringing up free speech. Why not just say "hey you can't cuss so we're taking these down"?
Apparent forefather to America Michael Slavens can now determine when free speech is appropriate, too."If you actually read through it, it seemed like it went way further than a free speech issue," said Student Government President Michael Slavens. "There were swear words and took it a little further than the average free speech should go." -
gutfree speech is only offensive when the minority is offended
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IggyPride00
You will be made to care. -
supermanThe posters
That's awesome.encouraged students to "go about your day without telling everyone about how 'different' you are. -
Belly35
So you're a Youngstown State student?friendfromlowry;1723985 wrote:http://www.whio.com/news/ap/ohio/ohio-university-removes-posters-for-straight-pride/nk247/
So student body leaders and university officials removed propaganda from around the university because it went beyond free speech as well as containing vulgar language. IMO, the university unnecessarily opened a can of worms by bringing up free speech. Why not just say "hey you can't cuss so we're taking these down"?
Apparent forefather to America Michael Slavens can now determine when free speech is appropriate, too. -
Ytowngirlinfla
The poster wasn't authorized by YSU and it wasn't posted by an actual group. Plus the fact it had vulgar language. YSU requires approval of posters. Of course people want to make it out to be not freedom of speech or hates on straight pride.friendfromlowry;1723985 wrote:http://www.whio.com/news/ap/ohio/ohio-university-removes-posters-for-straight-pride/nk247/
So student body leaders and university officials removed propaganda from around the university because it went beyond free speech as well as containing vulgar language. IMO, the university unnecessarily opened a can of worms by bringing up free speech. Why not just say "hey you can't cuss so we're taking these down"?
Apparent forefather to America Michael Slavens can now determine when free speech is appropriate, too. -
superman
So you're telling me that every poster on campus had been approved? I question the veracity of that statementYtowngirlinfla;1724008 wrote:The poster wasn't authorized by YSU and it wasn't posted by an actual group. Plus the fact it had vulgar language. YSU requires approval of posters. Of course people want to make it out to be not freedom of speech or hates on straight pride. -
Ytowngirlinfla
If you want it to continue to hang yes it has to be approved. Not that hard of a concept sleeper.superman;1724010 wrote:So you're telling me that every poster on campus had been approved? I question the veracity of that statement -
GOONx19
That may be the policy but there's no way it's the practice.Ytowngirlinfla;1724008 wrote:The poster wasn't authorized by YSU and it wasn't posted by an actual group. Plus the fact it had vulgar language. YSU requires approval of posters. Of course people want to make it out to be not freedom of speech or hates on straight pride. -
Ytowngirlinfla
Well it was when I went there. I worked in the student gov office and we had to go around and take shit down. More of an annoyance but YSU isn't a large campus.GOONx19;1724013 wrote:That may be the policy but there's no way it's the practice. -
friendfromlowry
The only Youngstown I've ever been to is in New York and the population is probably < 5,000.Belly35;1724006 wrote:So you're a Youngstown State student? -
superman
I'm sure at any given time, you can find posters that are unapproved all over that campus, boatshoes.Ytowngirlinfla;1724011 wrote:If you want it to continue to hang yes it has to be approved. Not that hard of a concept sleeper. -
sherm03
You can. And then...just like these posters...you can find that they were taken down.superman;1724018 wrote:I'm sure at any given time, you can find posters that are unapproved all over that campus, boatshoes. -
friendfromlowry
That's what I was getting at. If the posters were unapproved or contained vulgar language, why not just leave it at that? Why is the student body president trying to determine how far free speech should go?Ytowngirlinfla;1724008 wrote:The poster wasn't authorized by YSU and it wasn't posted by an actual group. Plus the fact it had vulgar language. YSU requires approval of posters. Of course people want to make it out to be not freedom of speech or hates on straight pride. -
sherm03
Because if he had just said, "the posters have vulgar language" people would complain that they have the right to put up posters that have foul language because of free speech. If he had said, "the posters weren't approved" people would complain that they weren't approved because of the content and say that they were suppressing their right to free speech.friendfromlowry;1724026 wrote:That's what I was getting at. If the posters were unapproved or contained vulgar language, why not just leave it at that? Why is the student body president trying to determine how far free speech should go?
I'm sure someone complained that they had the right to put up the posters because of free speech and this kid just tried to sound smarter by saying, "it goes beyond free speech."
As for your last question...please show me a student body organization that DOESN'T determine how far free speech should go. -
Ytowngirlinfla
I'll have to agree with sherm that someone would say, "No big deal it's just the word shit". So they are saying freedom of speech doesn't mean you can be vulgar. Especially because this week was the English Festival with a ton of middle and high school kids around campus.friendfromlowry;1724026 wrote:That's what I was getting at. If the posters were unapproved or contained vulgar language, why not just leave it at that? Why is the student body president trying to determine how far free speech should go? -
TiernanDid President Jimmy the Liar Tressel shut it down? He's a complete hypocritical Christian Nazi so I'm shocked he didn't lead the fucking We Are Straight parade.
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brutus161
Go eat some tainted potato salad.Tiernan;1724520 wrote:Did President Jimmy the Liar Tressel shut it down? He's a complete hypocritical Christian Nazi so I'm shocked he didn't lead the fucking We Are Straight parade. -
Tiernan
Dude seriously...leave the attempts at comedy to the professionals. That was just sad and embarrassing for you and your entire family.brutus161;1724609 wrote:Go eat some tainted potato salad. -
brutus161
Woe is me, Tiernan said bad things about me and my family. I guess I should stop now, since I have been bested by a superior individual.Tiernan;1724633 wrote:Dude seriously...leave the attempts at comedy to the professionals. That was just sad and embarrassing for you and your entire family. -
sherm03
You should listen to him, brutus. Tiernan knows all about being sad and embarrassing himself and his entire family.Tiernan;1724633 wrote:Dude seriously...leave the attempts at comedy to the professionals. That was just sad and embarrassing for you and your entire family.
Boom. Roasted. -
TiernanGuys you're obviously out of your depth...get out now while you still have a shred of dignity.
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Heretic
Why? You haven't.Tiernan;1724726 wrote:Guys you're obviously out of your depth...get out now while you still have a shred of dignity. -
TiernanC'mon Heredick you know I'm the original Mr. Dignity...just ask me.
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sherm03
You're going to tell people they aren't funny and then drop "Heredick" in there? Fuck man...Tiernan;1724798 wrote:C'mon Heredick you know I'm the original Mr. Dignity...just ask me.