Indian Hill (Cincinnati) house fire...damn.

• Tiernan

  What about the dogs? Builders are notorious for financial problems.
• Fab4Runner

  

  I know the feeling, and it's horrible. It doesn't matter how much money you have, or how great your insurance is. My family lost almost everything, including baby books, almost all of our pictures, and countless other keepsakes. It's a terrible thing to go through.
• gut

  Tiernan;1565829 wrote: Builders are notorious for financial problems.

  My thoughts exactly....I just laughed when I saw that - if you're the insurance company you are digging into this pretty extensively.
• Ironman92

  

  Money doesn't matter when this happens.....it's unfathomable every time it happens. Losing everything is losing everything.
  
  On the opposite side of the spectrum we had a family lose everything they had Thursday morning. Three kids in our school and Dad ( deaf) was asleep and awaken by the fire ambers hitting him. He barely got out and is in hospital.
• Tiernan

  That's different when people are in the house. Supposedly in this case nobody was home and the mom out of town which sounds pretty convenient to me. Ill bet al their family pics and documents were locked in a fire proof safe too.
• dlazz

  I saw this on a State Farm commercial the other day. They'll be smiling and having fun in no time.
• gut

  Tiernan;1565951 wrote:That's different when people are in the house. Supposedly in this case nobody was home and the mom out of town which sounds pretty convenient to me. Ill bet al their family pics and documents were locked in a fire proof safe too.

  We might see this in the movies all the time, but not sure how realistic this scenario is. I would think, normally, it's the father acting alone (and wife might be completely unaware of the extent of financial trouble). He could make sure everyone was away, but I'd doubt the wife was in on it.
  
  But it's really hard to get away with arson, I would think. Although a builder might know how to do it, but not necessarily. It would have to be an electrical fire that coincidentally shot the alarm system first. Or maybe rig a gas leak, but the only ignition source I could think of would be the pilot light on the furnace/water heater.
• Tiernan

  WLW reporting Hamilton County Arson investigator on the scene all afternoon today. Nailed it.
• GoChiefs

  

  Tiernan;1566061 wrote:WLW reporting Hamilton County Arson investigator on the scene all afternoon today. Nailed it.

  Smh. Hate to break it to ya sunshine, but that's par for the course with most house fires that are a total loss.
• said_aouita

  

  GoChiefs;1566078 wrote:Smh. Hate to break it to ya sunshine, but that's par for the course with most house fires that are a total loss.

  this^.
  
  Tiernan forgot that investigators investigate.
• Tiernan

  Where there is smoke there is fire...
  
  nailed it.
• sportchampps

  I heard reports it was a total loss because it did not have a sprinkler system, there wasn't enough water close by, and there was miscommunication between first responders and dispatchers
• gut

  sportchampps;1566158 wrote:...and there was miscommunication between first responders and dispatchers

  Which is interesting. It could very well be a tragedy....or it could be insurance fraud. We'll see.
• said_aouita

  

  gut;1566160 wrote:Which is interesting. It could very well be a tragedy....or it could be insurance fraud. We'll see.

  Heard/read someplace first report was of an open field fire, so only one fire truck was sent. The mistake of being an open field in the first report was because the mansion is not visible from the road.
• gut

  said_aouita;1566161 wrote:Heard/read someplace first report was of an open field fire, so only one fire truck was sent. The mistake of being an open field in the first report was because the mansion is not visible from the road.

  Yes, but, that sounds like a failed alarm system. And 1 truck is still massively sufficient for a structure like this - think about a high-rise taking up a few city blocks.
  
  It's very suspicious. And it may be a fluke tragedy...but it will be very closely investigated.
• believer

  

  If the owner of this house is the builder, I would assume - particularly in THIS house - he used the latest & greatest fire-retardant materials in the construction.
  
  When you look at the picture this is a COMPLETE loss.
  
  Just doesn't add up.
  
  If I'm wrong I'm wrong but this one smells pretty fishy.
• said_aouita

  

  believer;1566165 wrote:If the owner of this house is the builder, I would assume - particularly in THIS house - he used the latest & greatest fire-retardant materials in the construction.
  
  When you look at the picture this is a COMPLETE loss.
  
  Just doesn't add up.
  
  If I'm wrong I'm wrong but this one smells pretty fishy.

  
  I don't know about that either. Construction of homes nowadays is not what it used to be. Just because it looks great on the outside with it's fake rock walls (obviously the stones were cosmetic only) all it was is a 2x4 framed big house.
  
  Very well possible it's a huge insurance fraud case.
  
  It is interesting how many certified electricians have electrical fires....
• gut

  believer;1566165 wrote:If the owner of this house is the builder, I would assume - particularly in THIS house - he used the latest & greatest fire-retardant materials in the construction.

  I wouldn't put it past a builder to cut corners in his own house...
• Fab4Runner

  

  gut;1566164 wrote:Yes, but, that sounds like a failed alarm system. And 1 truck is still massively sufficient for a structure like this - think about a high-rise taking up a few city blocks.
  
  It's very suspicious. And it may be a fluke tragedy...but it will be very closely investigated

  There were four different fire departments (countless trucks) on the scene when our house burned down. I'm not a fire truck expert, but I don't think one would cut it for a house that size.
• Tiernan

  A nearby witness heard 4 loud explosions prior to the fire. Very well could have been the incendiary devices going off to ignite the fire. They are closing in on this guy.
• reclegend22

  

  Fab4Runner;1566178 wrote:There were four different fire departments (countless trucks) on the scene when our house burned down. I'm not a fire truck expert, but I don't think one would cut it for a house that size.

  Lol'd.
  
  If you're not a fire truck expert, then not sure why you're in here.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Tiernan;1566153 wrote:Where there is smoke there is fire...
  
  nailed it.

  Nothing has been confirmed, so you haven't nailed anything..moron.
• Tiernan

  Been nailing your mom all afternoon.
• justincredible

  

  Tiernan;1565829 wrote:What about the dogs? Builders are notorious for financial problems.

  Everyone was out of the house. But not the dogs. I doubt they are going to purposely blow up their own house, with their family pets still inside.
• Tiernan

  Kid said on FB the dogs were safe, so were they really in the house to begin with? Doubt it.