The spirit of Bobby Fischer

• Dr. Heinz Fraudster

  As a young black midget I was unable to play basketball with my peers so I turned to the game of chess. Arguably the best chess player of all time is Bobby Fischer and he is by far the one I enjoy studying and watching the games of the most.
  To some reading chess combinations from a book would be as interesting as looking at a page of sheet music staring at the notes.
  If you have a deeper understanding of Chess then you will start feeling Bobby's playing much like classical music, it can move your spirit and expand your mind.
  For years I have gained pleasure from re-playing his symphonies and when he passed away in 2008 I promised one day to visit his grave to pay my respect.
  
  
  Many people try to dismiss Bobby by saying he became crazy... to me that is simply ignorant and it is a witch hunt not worthy of any self respecting person.
  Bobby Fischer was one of the more fascinating public figures from his time and it is with some regret that I never got to meet him alive in person.
  
  
  The last years of his life Fischer lived in Iceland. He was granted citizenship there after having been imprisoned in Japan, and this is where he passed away.
  He was buried in the small churchyard of Laugardælir, right outside of Selfoss.
  This year my opportunity to travel to Iceland and a visit his grave became a reality.
  My family had an invitation here since I was asked to do a record cover for a well known Icelandic songstress.
  So we all arrived here some 3 weeks ago.
  The stay has been amazing and the hospitality of our hosts exemplary.
  We have ventured far and wide here and seen and experienced things out of the ordinary.
  But that is for a separate thread.
  
  
  On August 25th one of my Icelandic friends drove me from Reykjavik to Laugardælir.
  And 5 years after my promise had been made I was able to kneel at the legend Bobby Fischer's grave and pay my respects.
  It was a special moment and I could feel Bobby's spirit and his appreciation for my gesture.
  
  
  
  
  
  On our way back to Reykjavik my mind turned inwards and I was filled with a strange sensation.
  I had the intuitive feeling that somehow Bobby's genius was available to me and that his spirit was of assistance.
  Filled with curiosity of this I decided to see if it was true.
  Back in Reykjavik I went to a second hand bookstore that Bobby used to visit.
  They have a chess table there and amateurs meet for friendly bouts.
  On that day the former Icelandic chess master Fridrik Olafsson was in the store and he agreed to a match with me.
  I played like I had never played before in my life and my opponent was taken by surprise.
  After a couple of loosing games he exclaimed:
  -This is surreal, it feels like I have just played against Bobby Fischer.
  I shook his hand and smiled.
  
  
  I learnt at the book store that before he died Fischer had started creating a new type of chess based around chaos.
  He felt that chess in its current form was defined too much by calculated strategy and limitations.
  Sadly his chaos chess never made it to the public and remains a mystery.
  I for one would have enjoyed it immensely. It would be like the improvisation of jazz instead of following a set of pre-arranged chords.
  Keith Jarrett comes to mind as someone that would be the musical equivalent of a master at chaos chess if it ever became a reality.
  
  
  This is our last day here in Iceland and I am leaving here a richer man.
  If you ever get the chance to go you should.
  
  
  Rest in peace Bobby Fischer.
  May G_d's peace be upon your soul.
  
  
  
  
  
  Dr. King Kong Heinz Kesler
• BRF

  

  Cool story, bro.
  
  However:
  
  "To some reading chess combinations from a book would be as interesting as looking at a page of sheet music staring at the notes."
  
  I like to stare at the notes on sheet music.
• Dr. Heinz Fraudster

  BRF;1505500 wrote:Cool story, bro.
  
  However:
  
  "To some reading chess combinations from a book would be as interesting as looking at a page of sheet music staring at the notes."
  
  I like to stare at the notes on sheet music.

  
  Thank you, Buddhist BRF.
• BRF

  

  You are welcome.
• Dr. Heinz Fraudster

  BRF;1505502 wrote:You are welcome.

  Many on this forum try to hate on my Daytonian swagger but you sir embrace it. If you are ever in Dayton please let me know and I will make you gourmet ravioli.
• Devils Advocate

  

  If you ever venture north to Tipp City Dr. Kessler, I would be glad to give you a toss.
  
  I have never thrown a black one before.
  
  
  And BRF, I would hild out for an initation to the annual barbecue.
• Dr. Heinz Fraudster

  Devils Advocate;1505518 wrote:If you ever venture north to Tipp City Dr. Kessler, I would be glad to give you a toss.
  
  I have never thrown a black one before.
  
  
  And BRF, I would hild out for an initation to the annual barbecue.

  I see you have your "edit post" button on speed dial.
  
  You are about to discredit yourself terribly and look like a complete idiot when it is over.
  Ask yourself it is really worth it? I wont lose from this you will.
  
  Wisen up before it is too late.
  
  Dr. Heinz Kesler
• Devils Advocate

  

  Thank you for the warning kind sir. But alass, it is to late for me for I am already an idiot.
  
  But I am an expert at pointing out an asshole.
  
  And I am pointing at a little black one right now.
• dlazz

  
• Tigerfan00

  

  Dr. Heinz Kesler;1505505 wrote:Many on this forum try to hate on my Daytonian swagger but you sir embrace it. If you are ever in Dayton please let me know and I will make you gourmet ravioli.

  
• said_aouita

  

  
• gut

  Devils Advocate;1505518 wrote:... I would be glad to give you a toss..

  gay
• LJ

  

  
• Dr. Heinz Fraudster

  
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Well now we know, in case there was doubt, who FWK's new name is.
• Dr. Heinz Fraudster

  Commander of Awesome;1506239 wrote:Well now we know, in case there was doubt, who FWK's new name is.

  Excuses, excuses, neverending excuses.
  Blood you shook, it ain't hard to tell. He must be someone else.
  The Dayton Danger does that, no shame in admitting it.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  I read "Endgame: Bobby Fisher's Remarkable Rise and Fall" by Frank Brady last year. Fischer's story is very interesting as he was truly a prodigy. He was a very troubled genius as well. His gift was so strong that it moved him to narcisism and paranoia. Much of the the "persecution" he claimed to suffer in later years was brough on by his own deliberat actions. He was certainly brilliant at chess, but almost childlike at relating to his fellow man.
• O-Trap

  

  I find it odd that you refer to yourself as a "midget." I was under the impression that the word was cumulatively deemed disrespectful.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Dr. Heinz Kesler;1506246 wrote:Excuses, excuses, neverending excuses.
  Blood you shook, it ain't hard to tell. He must be someone else.
  The Dayton Danger does that, no shame in admitting it.

  Oh?
• hang_loose

  ^^^WHAT^^^???
• O-Trap

  

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  Banned you and removed your links. Left the post for the lulz.
  
  
• vdubb96

  

  O-Trap;1507046 wrote:Banned you and removed your links. Left the post for the lulz.
  
  Surprise, motherfucker.

  For sure just brought the lulz!
• Chester2357

  Dr. Heinz Fraudster;1505495 wrote:Arguably the best chess player of all time is Bobby Fischer and he is by far the one I enjoy studying and watching the games of the most.
  Many people try to dismiss Bobby by saying he became crazy... to me that is simply ignorant and it is a witch hunt not worthy of any self respecting person.
  Bobby Fischer was one of the more fascinating public figures from his time and it is with some regret that I never got to meet him alive in person.

  A lot of slander spawned around Bobby Fischer in the past decades. The media hasn't got even half of its lies and presumptions correct. Some in the media who actually knew him confirm that there are many misrepresentations.
  
  I was in the cult that Bobby was a 'coworker' within for almost 15 years. I learned this in the past month, and it wasn't hard to start putting the pieces together of what happened to him. Others in that cult ended up among the far right too. The cult was not antisemitic, at all, however, 15 years of hearing Armstrong thunder from the pulpit, magazines, radio and television broadcasts about Nazi invasion (and we all know what the Nazis did to the Jews) it messed with our minds. Bad. (In clinical terms, "Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder") Constant barrage of terror from Pasadena, California. During the height of the 1972-1975 Doomsday timeline is when Bobby was reported by NY Times, as 'reportedly replaying chess games and reading Nazi literature'.
  
  He was investigating his 'prophesied killers'. It actually took courage, something most of the Armstrong cult followers didn't have. The cult of repressive and restrictive, controlling diet, weekly schedule, the people you could associate with, everything in your personal life -manipulated and controlled. So it was forbidden to even look at outside literature. Armstrong had drilled into the skulls of cult members the Nazis invasion as 'Biblically prophesied' and Jesus would return, 1972-1975. Others did the same thing. They grew sick of the terror and the 'elusive, all powerful, 'beyond the human realm,' Satan himself gave Hitler his supernatural qualities...mysterious enemy' who would kill them because they kept the 'true sabbath.' Bobby was collateral damage for the cult. Armstrong swindled him of all his money and left him destitute.
  
  Media slander worth repeating
  

  “He disowned his Jewish roots and joined Worldwide Church of God in mid-1960 only to accuse it in 1977 of being Satanic.”

  Joining the WCG in 1962 didn't change much, if supposedly ‘disowning his Jewish roots’. Preposterous… since Bobby traded it in to keep the Jewish holy days, Jewish sabbath, Jewish meat laws and subjected to great admiration of Jews and Israel for 15 years of his life, and all the rigid, strict pseudo-Jewish regulations outsiders don't seem to understand about “Armstrongism,” which most people on the outside mistook for “Jewish”, anyway. Some are apparently under the delusion that Bobby fled from his “Jewish origins”. For all practical purposes, Bobby probably accepted Armstrongism because it was so SIMILAR to Judaism. Bobby would've seen himself as a living descendant of Israel, a “spiritual cousin” of Jews, of the Hebrew tribes of “Manasseh and Ephraim” and “Satan's Nazis” really had it in for the Jews & “lost tribes of Israel” (Manasseh and Ephraim) and were to prophetically arise in 1972, invading the U.S. and Britain. The media didn't know that, either. Too busy slandering to fact-check.
  “Satanic” is a real good word to describe the WCG. Armstrong extolled the ‘mighty and wondrous power of Satan’ and his righthand man Hitler. To hear Armstrong talk, Hitler was supernatural, “beyond the human realm” and for Armstrong's drilled in terror of Hitler, people should open their bank accounts wide if they want to make a bid to survive the coming plagues and “Great Tribulation” or perish in the Nazi Death Camps. Neighbors and extended family who actually knew how the religion affected them and those attending, sometimes referred to it as “The Devil's Religion.” Attending a Baptist Church with my Grandmom resulted in my Dad becoming enraged and shaking his fist in my face about the “true sabbath”. Grandmom overheard the yelling in the distance, when next I saw her she was in tears and said she'd never have me back to church with her. When a relative married outside the church she was excommunicated… kicked out and shunned. So, my church brother Bobby called it “Satanic”? Well that's fitting in my opinion. It was a manipulative, controlling CULT.
  
  
  To the person who posted the original opening post, I respect that you refrain from saying unkind things about Bobby Fischer. The amount of time Bobby was subjected to the mind-control tactics of Armstrong's cult was extensive, over a decade, and that was long enough to create serious mental issues and Bobby said so during a 1977 interview. But nobody connected those dots. Nobody paid attention. They didn't think it was as bad as he was saying.
  
  “I have to discuss some of the things Herbert has done to me-how he screwed up my mind-just to let people know that this is for real, because if anybody tried to live by the letter of the law… it was me. I truly tried to be obedient. The more I tried, the more crazy I became. The pressure he puts on you! You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't tell your friends this, you can't see unconverted people, you can't eat this, you can't eat that, on the sabbath you have to rest, you have to listen to the radio program every day, you have to study the correspondence course… and then you're supposed to pray…”
  [...]
  And here I was in the sixties reading this stuff sincerely and believing it. And I should have known that it was all just a pack of lies. He was just playing with me. Lie after lie, letter after letter.”
  [...]
  I was looking through some of his old co-worker letters-so phony, you know. He talks about this world and how evil it is and all, but actually he's really of this world with all these high-pressure sales tactics. That's exactly the stuff he talks about-the stuff he was doing as a kid that he supposedly outgrew. For example, he continuously tries to frighten and panic you in his coworker letters about the supposed imminent end of the world-so that you will empty your bank account before him. Articles in old Plain Truths tell you that you haven't much time to develop character to prepare for Christ's return-to take the last train to sanity by joining Armstrongism. The idea is constantly drummed into your head that you must obey God=Armstrongism before it's too late. You must decide now. Time is running out… This kind of super high-pressure salesmanship leads people to make rash decisions, based on fear, often made against their better judgment. This is the very essence of Armstrongism (i.e., fear, panic, guilt).”
  — Bobby Fischer Interview, 1977
  
  Since learning Bobby was part of the cult I set up a page (https://vindication-of-bobby-fischer.co/) for anyone who really wants to understand the truth (a thing the media failed miserably to provide the public all these years) when and how Bobby went from being the celebrated American Cold War Hero to political dissident. It was that sick Doomsday Cult. Armstrong didn't care about the people. He was a narcissist and a sociopath who used doctrines of terror to intimidate people into giving him the majority of their income. Bobby was reported as saying that by 1972, "I gave all my money." (And rumor was reported in NY Times, he was "destitute".)
  Ex-Armstrong groups that have kept the record of what happened in that cult have a wealth of information, starting with back in the 1920's, Armstrong built his cult doctrines based on Ku Klux Klan "British-Israelism" ideology. His estranged family also reported he read books like "Mein Kampf" and admired Hitler's methods of crowd control and dominating other men. This history was hidden from new converts in the 1960's, 70's and 80's onward. My family joined in the 1970's, while Bobby was still attending.
  
  That was the emerging origins of "The Worldwide Church of God" or, "The Radio Church of God" during the 1960's. Of course by the time Fischer joined (1962) the church had already covered up and hidden its bigoted origins. Racial tolerance was normal by the 1960's and such attitudes like anti-semitism were not tolerated. Especially against the Jews. The entire religion revolved around Hebrew racial identity. The Jews were one tribe of Israel, while Bobby would've seen himself as a 'cousin' of sorts. All who joined and opened their wallets were accepted with open arms by Armstrong.
• Chester2357

  Needless to add, after Armstrong died, a man by the name of Joseph Tkach took over the helms and began transforming the CULT's doctrines to a milder form of protestantism. This incensed many of the cult members. The cult ended up fragmenting into Splinter groups which carry on the same depraved doctrines which terrorize children and young adults about "nazis" and "extermination camps" prophesied in Bible, to come "Get them".
  
  The main cult headquarters, changed their name to "Grace Communion International" and now, today confess:
  
  Unorthodox doctrines
  “…As Herbert Armstrong criticized traditional Christianity, he also attracted criticism. Many people considered him to be the leader of a heretical cult. Today, the leaders of this denomination reject Armstrongʼs doctrinal errors. We acknowledge that our errors were deep and serious…”
  - GCI website
  
  But as a cult resource organization recently replied in an email:
  
  "...First off, let me say how sorry I am to hear what you have had to endure. I am an ex-member of a Bible-Based cult (not WWCG) as well and know from my own experiences how difficult the road to recovery can be. What happened with Bobby Fisher is indeed tragic, but those of us who have come under the sway of cults understand all too well how this can happen.
  I am glad to hear you wrote of your experiences and hope that you will be able to help, educate and inform other people about WWCG and cults in general. I do know that WWCG has changed their stance on many issues and are at least doctrinally willing to admit they were in error. However, I truly hope that they can acknowledge the manipulation and control, which is many ways was more insidious, and not just the error in doctrine."
  -Maureen
  
  The splinter cult organizations will continue raking in ill-gotten tithes and offerings by terrorizing those who trust and believe in them, and a minority among the fold will be produced which seek out the Nazi literature after a decade of being tormented with nightmare fears of Nazi extermination camps.
• Slyde-bi

  Searching for Bobby Fischer was a great movie.