The Missouri State Fair clown

• said_aouita

  

  It's a state fair. Obviously the dumb asses didn't consider their may be Democrats in Missouri.
• bases_loaded

  

  
• queencitybuckeye

  said_aouita;1486778 wrote:It's a state fair. Obviously the dumb asses didn't consider their may be Democrats in Missouri.

  *there
• TedSheckler

  

  So let me get this straight. Anyone can wear a mask of any other president or make dummy's of them to mock them EXCEPT President Obama? Got it.
• Tiernan

  The Insane Clown Posse is really pissed about this and wants to see justice for their brethren.
• Fly4Fun

  

  bases_loaded;1486793 wrote:

  To be fair, there are differences between 1994 and 2013 as far as the pervasiveness of news coverage a lot due to the increase in accessibility to the internet and cable television, both of which greatly contribute to the 24 hour news cycle.
• bases_loaded

  

  So, to be fair, our country is full of butthurt pussies now.
• Belly35

  

  Not my president ..... Hope this helps
• I Wear Pants

  I think the issue was probably more because rather than "lol Obama is stupid" or something like that it was more of a "gee wouldn't it be great if he died?".
• Fly4Fun

  

  bases_loaded;1486949 wrote:So, to be fair, our country is full of butthurt pussies now.

  I can't help but laugh at this for unintended reasons.
• Me?

  

  
• Trueblue23

  

  LOL.
  
  It's the same NAACP that wouldn't defend a black beating victim and called him an Uncle Tom.
  
  These black "leaders" don't want racism to go way, it's too much of a political/personal pawn.
• believer

  

  
• TedSheckler

  

  
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Seems pretty simple to me:
  
  1) The clown should have been relieved of his duties, it is a state-funded expedition and people didn't sign up for political moments - satirization or not. Bad judgment.
  
  2) The response is more idiotic. It makes the Obama supporters seem like thin-skinned nitwits. The idea that he should have a lifetime ban, or go through sensitivity training or that the DOJ should be involved is Orwellian. Political satire is one of the most precious of our 1st Amendment rights. Some might find it distasteful, but there hasn't been a POTUS that hasn't seen distasteful criticism. The politicians that were outraged about this are more clownish than the actual clown.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  "To be fair, there are differences between 1994 and 2013 as far as the pervasiveness of news coverage a lot due to the increase in accessibility to the internet and cable television, both of which greatly contribute to the 24 hour news cycle."
  
  And to be fair, George W. Bush was continuously vilified in the previous administration which by that time was a 24 hour news cycle. Eddie Vedder (from Pearl Jam of former fame) lampooning him on stage, there was a film dedicated to W's assassination, and perhaps the tv show Game of Thrones putting W's head on a spike (I'm not sure about that one, I've read differing opinions).
  
  The point is (and not to take this to the politics forum so I won't mention any more names), a POTUS is a public figure and there is no reason why a POTUS figure gets special privilege for any or no reason.
  
  South Park got it right, also during the 24 hour news cycle. The people upset about this are complete idiots. Just kick the guy out of the fair for putting on a show that wasn't public friendly. It doesn't make him a criminal, or even civilly liable for anything.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  ccrunner609;1487517 wrote:First amendment.

  Doesn't apply with respect to employment. I can't go into my boss' office and tell him he's an a-hole and expect the First Amendment to save me from being fired. In the private or public sector.
• Rotinaj

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;1487522 wrote:Doesn't apply with respect to employment. I can't go into my boss' office and tell him he's an a-hole and expect the First Amendment to save me from being fired. In the private or public sector.

  CC won't understand this. He's somewhat of a derp.
• gut

  I actually don't have issue with the clown (without knowing the whole routine). As people said, caricature masks are common/popular. The guy who stepped over the line was the PA announcer "don't y'all want him to get trampled?" And the clown might have had nothing to do with whatever ad libs the PA guy decided to come up with.
• TedSheckler

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;1487522 wrote:Doesn't apply with respect to employment. I can't go into my boss' office and tell him he's an a-hole and expect the First Amendment to save me from being fired. In the private or public sector.

  
  Wrong. The First Amendment gives you the right to go into your boss' office and say whatever you want. The First Amendment doesn't protect you from consequences of what you say.
• I Wear Pants

  Manhattan Buckeye;1487521 wrote:"To be fair, there are differences between 1994 and 2013 as far as the pervasiveness of news coverage a lot due to the increase in accessibility to the internet and cable television, both of which greatly contribute to the 24 hour news cycle."
  
  And to be fair, George W. Bush was continuously vilified in the previous administration which by that time was a 24 hour news cycle. Eddie Vedder (from Pearl Jam of former fame) lampooning him on stage, there was a film dedicated to W's assassination, and perhaps the tv show Game of Thrones putting W's head on a spike (I'm not sure about that one, I've read differing opinions).
  
  The point is (and not to take this to the politics forum so I won't mention any more names), a POTUS is a public figure and there is no reason why a POTUS figure gets special privilege for any or no reason.
  
  South Park got it right, also during the 24 hour news cycle. The people upset about this are complete idiots. Just kick the guy out of the fair for putting on a show that wasn't public friendly. It doesn't make him a criminal, or even civilly liable for anything.

  This. If his employers want to make him do sort of training then whatever. But I'm not going to pretend the guy is a criminal or an asshole or anything. He did something that was pretty dumb. Shut up about it already.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Well, sort of. Unless it is a prior restraint it doesn't really matter, people can just mouth off for any or no reason. But the First Amendment does protect against certain consequences by state actors. If I walk into a shopping mall and scream out "my boss is a jerk", the First Amendment doesn't protect me from consequences with respect to my employment, if I go to an anti-politician rally the First Amendment typically protects me from any state action with respect to that speech unless it violates certain parameters (inciting violence, direct threat, etc. etc.).