Two girls missing in Cleveland found alive after a decade

• dlazz

  Heretic;1440884 wrote:I have a co-worker like that. Most miserable person I've ever had the experience of being around.

  It even crossed my mind when I saw that 1) he was black 2) living in a disadvantaged neighborhood that they would probably be able to find dirt on him.
  
  However, he can't erase his bad past, just like he can't erase the good present.
• Mulva

  

  Scarlet_Buckeye;1440770 wrote:Yeah, one would think this would be VERY easy to solve... simply put the two brothers in a line of men, ask if the girls recognize anyone in the lineup, if yes, guilty. If not, not guilty.

  Aside from the fact that eyewitness testimony is extremely unreliable and any number of factors could impact the results.
• said_aouita

  

  Is it common even in the ghetto to have your back yard covered with tarps?
  
  
  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/missing-women-cleveland-brothers-arrested/2140359/
  

  Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.
  Another neighbor, Israel Lugo, said he heard pounding on some of the doors of Castro's house, which had plastic bags on the windows, in November 2011. Lugo said officers knocked on the front door, but no one answered. "They walked to the side of the house and then left," he said.

  rael Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

  
  Later, Lugo's mother called the police because Ariel Castro would park his school bus in front of their home and bring bags full of McDonald's and drinks into his home. They wondered why he needed so much food. Police again responded but didn't enter the home.
  A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.
  "I thought something was wrong because I got bad vibes from him," Lugo, 39, a subcontractor, said. "I didn't want to accuse someone falsely."

  
  
  If this is accurate somebody inside the Cleveland police department deserves fired and even prison time.
• Fab4Runner

  

  said_aouita;1440931 wrote:Is it common even in the ghetto to have your back yard covered with tarps?
  
  
  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/missing-women-cleveland-brothers-arrested/2140359/
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  If this is accurate somebody inside the Cleveland police department deserves fired and even prison time.

  They stated at the press conference yesterday that they had pored over phone/911 records and there was no evidence that the calls referenced above were actually made.
• Curly J

  

  Fab4Runner;1440948 wrote:They stated at the press conference yesterday that they had pored over phone/911 records and there was no evidence that the calls referenced above were actually made.

  ^^^This. I heard some recanted that they called the Police on a different interview. Changed it to they were going to call the Police, but didn't.
• WebFire

  said_aouita;1440931 wrote:Is it common even in the ghetto to have your back yard covered with tarps?
  
  
  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/missing-women-cleveland-brothers-arrested/2140359/
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  If this is accurate somebody inside the Cleveland police department deserves fired and even prison time.

  Nothing in any of those examples give the police any ability to do much more. They can't just barge in and take a look around. Not to mention police in a city like Cleveland get so many bullshit calls, it's hard to weed out the serious ones.
• SportsAndLady

  

  People were pounding the doors inside a private residence? CALL THE FBI!!
  
  Seriously, STFU. Always cracks me up how people are Captain Hindsight. The Boston Bombing was the worst. "omg how do you not call the police when you see a guy carrying a bag near a crowded group of people!"
• bases_loaded

  

  Never said it discredits what he did Monday. Just wanted to see how butt hurt everyone would get over a guy no one knows.
• Tigerfan00

  

  Unreal how a guy went 10+ years without anyone noticing or knowing anything, I still find that hard to believe. If I had a family member who all of a sudden wasnt letting anyone in their house or only letting me in the front room, some major red flags would go off right away. To think no one in his entire family ever questioned that is just bizarre. If I were his two brothers Id be taking off in a hurry because once all the info starts coming out I guarntee that they at least knew about it.