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Attempted suicide at LaSalle HS in Cincinnati

  • WebFire
    More background checks would have prevented this. That, or a ban on 30 round "clips", because once you shoot them they are gone.
  • justincredible
    WebFire;1435533 wrote:More background checks would have prevented this. That, or a ban on 30 round "clips", because once you shoot them they are gone.
    Cincinnati Enquirer posted the story on facebook. The third comment was "Gun control now." I facepalm'd.
  • dlazz
    We are we are, the youth of the nat-ion.
  • dlazz
    justincredible;1435534 wrote:Cincinnati Enquirer posted the story on facebook. The third comment was "Gun control now." I facepalm'd.
    A big reason I can't facebook anymore. It's just a constant stream of stupidity anytime there's an event like this.
  • redstreak one
    That would be a tragic thing to witness for anyone, especially young people.
  • justincredible
    dlazz;1435537 wrote:A big reason I can't facebook anymore. It's just a constant stream of stupidity anytime there's an event like this.
    I try to stay away from comment sections on stories like this but I let my guard down. This will keep me from checking any others for a while.
  • justincredible
    redstreak one;1435538 wrote:That would be a tragic thing to witness for anyone, especially young people.
    Absolutely. It's an absolute shame that this young man thought that suicide was the answer, but worse than that, that he decided to bring a bunch of his peers into it.
  • dlazz
    justincredible;1435539 wrote:I try to stay away from comment sections on stories like this but I let my guard down. This will keep me from checking any others for a while.
    Status updates from random people are just as bad though. I trashed my Facebook months ago, but from what I hear from friends it's that it was a complete shitshow when the Newtown shooting went down.
  • justincredible
    dlazz;1435542 wrote:Status updates from random people are just as bad though. I trashed my Facebook months ago, but from what I hear from friends it's that it was a complete shitshow when the Newtown shooting went down.
    I definitely think less of some of my friends and acquaintances because of facebook.
  • Hb31187
    WebFire;1435533 wrote:More background checks would have prevented this. That, or a ban on 30 round "clips", because once you shoot them they are gone.
    I know that obviously this is sarcastic. But are you against further background checks? If so, just curious as to why? Because it seriously harms no law abiding citizen to have more extensive background checks before purchasing a gun so I dont really understand the resistance to it
  • dlazz
    Hb31187;1435551 wrote:I know that obviously this is sarcastic. But are you against further background checks? If so, just curious as to why? Because it seriously harms no law abiding citizen to have more extensive background checks before purchasing a gun so I dont really understand the resistance to it
    The background checks in place right now are sufficient to weed out 99% of the people who shouldn't have guns. Further background checks might prevent 0.00001% more people from buying guns, but it isn't the problem.

    If someone wants a gun bad enough, they're going to get their hands on one (stealing, having someone else buy it, etc).
  • Mohican00
    dlazz;1435535 wrote:We are we are, the youth of the nat-ion.
    jeremy spoke in class, today
  • justincredible
    Hb31187;1435551 wrote:I know that obviously this is sarcastic. But are you against further background checks? If so, just curious as to why? Because it seriously harms no law abiding citizen to have more extensive background checks before purchasing a gun so I dont really understand the resistance to it
    There are threads in the poli forum discussing this. But I am 100% against any further background checks. dlazz hit on it pretty well.
  • cruiser_96
    justincredible;1435541 wrote:Absolutely. It's an absolute shame that this young man thought that suicide was the answer, but worse than that, that he decided to bring a bunch of his peers into it.
    Agreed.

    Interesting you mention FB. As I listen to young people (young whippersnappers, if you'd like), I'm amazed that they tease each other concerning the low number of "likes" "hits" "views" or "followers" one has. It all seems very attention seeking to me. ...much like walking into a classroom or cafeteria and attempting suicide as opposed to staying in seclusion and doing it.

    Oh well. Maybe an isolated and unrelated case to my narcissism conspiracy theory.
  • mcburg93
    I hate hearing or seeing things like this happening. It pisses me off that people would even do this to their families. Ugg its just disgusting.
  • SportsAndLady
    cruiser_96;1435557 wrote:Agreed.

    Interesting you mention FB. As I listen to young people (young whippersnappers, if you'd like), I'm amazed that they tease each other concerning the low number of "likes" "hits" "views" or "followers" one has. It all seems very attention seeking to me. ...much like walking into a classroom or cafeteria and attempting suicide as opposed to staying in seclusion and doing it.

    Oh well. Maybe an isolated and unrelated case to my narcissism conspiracy theory.

    You're comparing likes on facebook to attempting suicide in a school cafeteria?
  • cruiser_96
    SportsAndLady;1435570 wrote:You're comparing likes on facebook to attempting suicide in a school cafeteria?
    Not even close! Ha. But that made me chuckle.

    My point was the number of coversations I hear on a daily basis concerning some poor kid only having 38 followers on twitter answers the question of why walk into a filled cafeteria? Why not do it in your room. One word: Attention. Gotta have the views, the likes, the followers, the looks ... the attention. Can't get attention by shooting yourself in a room. Ya gotta go somewhere in public!
  • justincredible
    cruiser_96;1435575 wrote:Not even close! Ha. But that made me chuckle.

    My point was the number of coversations I hear on a daily basis concerning some poor kid only having 38 followers on twitter answers the question of why walk into a filled cafeteria? Why not do it in your room. One word: Attention. Gotta have the views, the likes, the followers, the looks ... the attention. Can't get attention by shooting yourself in a room. Ya gotta go somewhere in public!
    I definitely understood the parallel you were trying to make.
  • tk421
    justincredible;1435534 wrote:Cincinnati Enquirer posted the story on facebook. The third comment was "Gun control now." I facepalm'd.
    If by gun control they mean hitting your target, I'll get behind that. The only gun control we need is awareness of gun owners to securely control access and availability to your guns. Don't know how this kid got the gun, but parents especially need a safe.
  • Fly4Fun
    The sad thing about suicide is that it's "contagious." When one person does it, typically there are more to follow. Generally people don't think of it as a "solution" to their problems until someone else does it. And then once others realize it's an option, then they may take the same course of action and repeat the same mistake.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Fly4Fun;1435591 wrote:The sad thing about suicide is that it's "contagious." When one person does it, typically there are more to follow. Generally people don't think of it as a "solution" to their problems until someone else does it. And then once others realize it's an option, then they may take the same course of action and repeat the same mistake.
    What makes you say that?
  • vball10set
    It's bad enough that this kid felt that suicide was the answer, but thank God he didn't decide to take others with him. How many times over the last few years have we encountered that scenario... :(
  • Fly4Fun
    Commander of Awesome;1435594 wrote:What makes you say that?
    Because there are different studies that point to the idea that suicide is contagious in the sense that is clustered in time and space.

    Different academic, peer reviewed papers have been published about this idea. And they have been approached it from different viewpoints such as a celebrity/athlete suicide leading to the rise in suicides, or if a family member or friend commits suicide, that often leads to an increase in likelihood of suicide, or as a workplace phenomenon.

    I just don't have the different articles I've read available at the moment, but there is information out there if you are curious. Most of what I read was either related to my psych undergrad or a law and social sciences class in law school.
  • Pick6
    I've never heard of suicide being "contagiuous".