2 yr old mauled to death by african dogs at Pittsburgh Zoo

• SnotBubbles

  

  thePITman;1313236 wrote:If my kid falls into a pit with angry dogs, I'm jumping in after my kid, not yelling and waiting for help.

  I was scrolling down, expecting this a lot sooner....was hoping I wouldn't be the first to post it.
  
  I wouldn't care if it was a lion or a fucking grizzly bear....I'm in there trying to at least fend it off and save the live of my child. As SOON as my child falls in.
  
  What a worthless mother...not only for being irresponsible enough to put the child in danger by setting it on a rail...but then for sitting there watching the child be mauled.
• SportsAndLady

  

  You'd jump into a lion's pit...suuuuure
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;1313437 wrote:You'd jump into a lion's pit...suuuuure

  With all due respect, you're not a parent--you'd be amazed at what a parent would/could do to save their child.
• Sonofanump

  I would to save my daughter. Easy decision. But I would not be putting her up above where she suppose to be and potentially fall.
• reclegend22

  

  SnotBubbles;1313388 wrote:I was scrolling down, expecting this a lot sooner....was hoping I wouldn't be the first to post it.
  
  I wouldn't care if it was a lion or a ****ing grizzly bear....I'm in there trying to at least fend it off and save the live of my child. As SOON as my child falls in.
  
  What a worthless mother...not only for being irresponsible enough to put the child in danger by setting it on a rail...but then for sitting there watching the child be mauled.

  You'd willingly jump into a lion's den even if there weren't a child in there, wouldn't you? So I'm not sure if this advice should be followed.
  
  (I've never really had any interaction with you, but I am fully kidding )
• SportsAndLady

  

  vball10set;1313440 wrote:With all due respect, you're not a parent--you'd be amazed at what a parent would/could do to save their child.

  I may have a kid out there, who knows
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;1313475 wrote:I may have a kid out there, who knows

  Indeed...I guess what I'm trying to say is that when you have a child, certain instincts take over that may cause irrational behavior. It's crazy, but believe me, they're there.
• vball10set

  Sonofanump;1313454 wrote:I would to save my daughter. Easy decision. But I would not be putting her up above where she suppose to be and potentially fall.

  Bingo.
• SnotBubbles

  

  SportsAndLady;1313437 wrote:You'd jump into a lion's pit...suuuuure

  I would. When you become a parent, you would do anything for your kids. They're the only things on earth I would die for. I'm not going to sit there and watch the thing I love most in the world be helplessly killed when I could at least be attempting to help them.
• reclegend22

  

  While I agree that parents will do incredible things to save their children in the face of danger, if a grizzly bear already has a hold of your child, WTF are you going to do? Challenge it to a set-to? Let's be serious. It's just like when people say a parent can lift a truck when their kid is lying underneath it. Two things: They can try to lift that truck, but it isn't fucking moving. And if your kid is underneath a truck, your kid is already dead.
• SportsAndLady

  

  reclegend22;1313494 wrote:While I agree that parents will do incredible things to save their children in the face of danger, if a grizzly bear already has a hold of your child, WTF are you going to do? Challenge it to a set-to? Let's be serious. It's just like when people say a parent can lift a truck when their kid is lying underneath it. Two things: They can try to lift that truck, but it isn't fucking moving. And if your kid is underneath a truck, your kid is already dead.

  Exactly...those dogs have your kid, there is NOTHING you are going to do to save your kid's life. Jumping down there is just going to get both of you killed.
  
  It'd be like if your kid fell out of a plane without a parachute, and you jumping down to "save" him/her without a parachute.
• -Society-

  

  SportsAndLady;1313517 wrote:Exactly...those dogs have your kid, there is NOTHING you are going to do to save your kid's life. Jumping down there is just going to get both of you killed.
  
  It'd be like if your kid fell out of a plane without a parachute, and you jumping down to "save" him/her without a parachute.

  One moron agreeing with another. You both used two extreme examples. Let's face it...sportsandlady's dad let some bum take him for $50 because of being parked in the wrong spot. Not a good example. One pussy being raised by another.
• SportsAndLady

  

  -Society-;1313524 wrote:One moron agreeing with another. You both used two extreme examples. Let's face it...sportsandlady's dad let some bum take him for $50 because of being parked in the wrong spot. Not a good example. One pussy being raised by another.

  Hi Society
• superman

  -Society-;1313524 wrote:One moron agreeing with another. You both used two extreme examples. Let's face it...sportsandlady's dad let some bum take him for $50 because of being parked in the wrong spot. Not a good example. One pussy being raised by another.

  He did get his ass kicked for sticking his nose where it didn't belong.
• reclegend22

  

  SportsAndLady;1313517 wrote:Exactly...those dogs have your kid, there is NOTHING you are going to do to save your kid's life. Jumping down there is just going to get both of you killed.
  
  It'd be like if your kid fell out of a plane without a parachute, and you jumping down to "save" him/her without a parachute.

  Spot on. Lol. If a parent jumps into a pen at the zoo to engage in a fist fight with a bear, then the world will be a better place after that parent has been eaten.
  

  Society wrote:You both used two extreme examples.

  Extreme examples? Snotbubble said he would get in a rumble with a lion. Give me a fucking break.
• WebFire

  reclegend22;1313599 wrote:Spot on. Lol. If a parent jumps into a pen at the zoo to engage in a fist fight with a bear, then the world will be a better place after that parent has been eaten.

  Any body who says they wouldn't go in doesn't have kids, and if they do, probably shouldn't. If my kid fell in, I wouldn't even hesitate. First of all, you are assuming the kid is already dead. Maybe the kid is alive and you can distract the animal enough for help to get there. And yes, distract might mean you getting eaten.
  
  Kind of goes along with house fires. My kids will not die in house fire unless I do too.
• reclegend22

  

  WebFire;1313602 wrote:Any body who says they wouldn't go in doesn't have kids, and if they do, probably shouldn't. If my kid fell in, I wouldn't even hesitate. First of all, you are assuming the kid is already dead. Maybe the kid is alive and you can distract the animal enough for help to get there. And yes, distract might mean you getting eaten.
  
  Kind of goes along with house fires. My kids will not die in house fire unless I do to.

  I agree if the kid is still clearly alive and just in the pen and the animal hasn't attacked it yet, then you should definitely jump in. That is a no-brainer. My point was that if the lion is already eating your child, it is fucking over. Jumping in at that point is just suicide.
• WebFire

  reclegend22;1313609 wrote:I agree if the kid is still clearly alive and just in the pen and the animal hasn't attacked it yet, then you should definitely jump in. That is a no-brainer. My point was that if the lion is already eating your child, it is fucking over. Jumping in at that point is just suicide.

  If it's obvious, I suppose.
• SportsAndLady

  

  reclegend22;1313599 wrote:
  Extreme examples? Snotbubble said he would get in a rumble with a lion. Give me a fucking break.

  Haha yeah. I mean I didn't bring up the fact that if someone's 2 year old was dropped into a man eating lion's pit, he/she would jump in to do...nothing? But get eaten themselves?
  
  Is the comparison not legit? If you jump from a plane after your falling kid, and neither of you can live, is that not the same as jumping in a lion's pit after your kid?
• reclegend22

  

  SportsAndLady;1313633 wrote:Haha yeah. I mean I didn't bring up the fact that if someone's 2 year old was dropped into a man eating lion's pit, he/she would jump in to do...nothing? But get eaten themselves?
  
  Is the comparison not legit? If you jump from a plane after your falling kid, and neither of you can live, is that not the same as jumping in a lion's pit after your kid?

  Everybody in those two scenarios is going to die except for the airplane and the lion, so yes lol
• tk421

  

  Unless you only have that single kid, I think the idea of jumping into an enclosed area with a wild animal that has attacked and potentially killed your child after your own act of stupidity in placing said child in a position to fall into said enclosed area in the first place is extremely stupid. It's bad enough that you stupidly possible just killed your child, I don't think becoming snack number two and leaving other potential children plus your significant other is a very good idea.
  
  Notice that when the employees and cops finally came into the area to retrieve the child, a cop had to shoot one of the dogs. You won't be jumping into the pen with a gun, so not such a good idea.
• reclegend22

  

  tk421;1313648 wrote:Unless you only have that single kid, I think the idea of jumping into an enclosed area with a wild animal that has attacked and potentially killed your child after your own act of stupidity in placing said child in a position to fall into said enclosed area in the first place is extremely stupid. It's bad enough that you stupidly possible just killed your child, I don't think becoming snack number two and leaving other potential children plus your significant other is a very good idea.
  
  Notice that when the employees and cops finally came into the area to retrieve the child, a cop had to shoot one of the dogs. You won't be jumping into the pen with a gun, so not such a good idea.

  Truth.
• WebFire

  tk421;1313648 wrote:Unless you only have that single kid, I think the idea of jumping into an enclosed area with a wild animal that has attacked and potentially killed your child after your own act of stupidity in placing said child in a position to fall into said enclosed area in the first place is extremely stupid. It's bad enough that you stupidly possible just killed your child, I don't think becoming snack number two and leaving other potential children plus your significant other is a very good idea.
  
  Notice that when the employees and cops finally came into the area to retrieve the child, a cop had to shoot one of the dogs. You won't be jumping into the pen with a gun, so not such a good idea.

  Might be truth, but you aren't going to stop to think it over when it happens. You guys are seriously underestimating parental instincts.
• McFly1955

  

  WebFire;1313673 wrote:Might be truth, but you aren't going to stop to think it over when it happens. You guys are seriously underestimating parental instincts.

  I agree. I have a 2 year old daughter and 2 month old daughter and I'd jump in and almost hit the ground before my daughter in this situation -- there wouldn't even be a thought...Might get torn apart myself, but I'd be in there.
• tk421

  

  I think you're seriously overestimating parental instincts. If this woman had any instincts at all, she wouldn't have killed her kid. I have a feeling that most parents that care enough about their kids to jump in after them wouldn't have had their kid fall in in the first place.