Is 3 times considered a pattern?
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said_aouita
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/mother-pleads-end-violence-after-losing-3-sons/nRGMP/An Atlanta <del></del>mother whose three sons were <del></del>murdered said the violence has got to stop.
Someone killed Kentavious Ballard Sunday. His two brothers were murdered in 2000 and 2001.
"He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time," said Janice Ballard-Dean
Ballard-Dean said that's been the case for three of her four children.
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O-Trap
They were in the wrong place at the wrong time on purpose. Definitely a pattern.
And "Kentavious?" It's obvious she didn't love her son anyway if she gave him a name like that. Might as well name him Stealmylunchmoneyandpopacapinmyass. -
said_aouita
I bet his nickname growing up was Kunta Kenta'vious.O-Trap;1251646 wrote:
And "Kentavious?" It's obvious she didn't love her son anyway if she gave him a name like that. -
FatHobbit
It's easy to make a snap judgement here, but I'm not sure we have enough info. Maybe they are just poor and live in a bad neighborhood. -
O-Trap
Not difficult to avoid that kind of trouble, even in a bad neighborhood.FatHobbit;1251993 wrote:It's easy to make a snap judgement here, but I'm not sure we have enough info. Maybe they are just poor and live in a bad neighborhood.
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Rotinaj
What kind of trouble are you referring too?O-Trap;1251996 wrote:Not difficult to avoid that kind of trouble, even in a bad neighborhood. -
sportchamppsI'd say he's referring to the trouble of being shot to death
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FatHobbit
O-Trap;1251996 wrote:Not difficult to avoid that kind of trouble, even in a bad neighborhood.
Poor has nothing to do with it.The most recent slaying happened early Sunday morning when police said Kentavious Ballard, 30, and a friend were walking through Atlanta's Central Park when two men approached them.
Police asked Channel 2 Action News not to identify his friend.
"He said, 'What y'all looking at?' and he turned and pow, pow, pow! And that's when we fell on the ground," said his unidentified friend.
I think you're implying that they made bad decisions or ran with the wrong crowd, which is possible. But one of them was shot while walking in the park in the morning and the other was shot while being robbed. Perhaps there is more to it than that but it's also possible that they were innocent.One year later on Dec. 24, 2001, Janice Ballard-Dean said someone robbed and shot her other son, Xavier, in DeKalb County. -
Rotinaj
I just don't think the article is very clear. Doesn't mention any criminal record for any of the brothers but I can see that being left out. Atlanta is a shithole, Odds are that they weren't just randomly murdered but it's certainly possible.sportchampps;1252009 wrote:I'd say he's referring to the trouble of being shot to death -
FatHobbit
The pictures in the article certainly don't make them look innocent and it definitely sounds suspicious. I just would not be so quick to judge a family that lost three sons based on what I currently know.Rotinaj;1252016 wrote:I just don't think the article is very clear. Doesn't mention any criminal record for any of the brothers but I can see that being left out. Atlanta is a shithole, Odds are that they weren't just randomly murdered but it's certainly possible. -
Rotinaj
I didn't know of any pictures in he article. They arent showing up on my phone.
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Glory Days
generally "early morning" doesnt refer to the time of day when he would have been walking to church on sunday....but probably between the hours of midnight and 4am etc. the old saying, nothing good happens after 2am generally holds true, especially when walking through shitty neighborhoods.FatHobbit;1252015 wrote:I think you're implying that they made bad decisions or ran with the wrong crowd, which is possible. But one of them was shot while walking in the park in the morning and the other was shot while being robbed. Perhaps there is more to it than that but it's also possible that they were innocent. -
FatHobbit
Rotinaj;1252030 wrote:I didn't know of any pictures in he article. They arent showing up on my phone.
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FatHobbit
That makes sense. I'd still like to know the exact time.Glory Days;1252035 wrote:generally "early morning" doesnt refer to the time of day when he would have been walking to church on sunday....but probably between the hours of midnight and 4am etc. the old saying, nothing good happens after 2am generally holds true, especially when walking through shitty neighborhoods. -
TedSheckler
Guilty!FatHobbit;1252036 wrote: -
said_aouita
Kentavious Ballard's mug shot
list of charges-
[URL="http://%20Charge%201%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.568%282%29%28A%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20FRAUD%20USE/%20PERSONAL%20ID%20INFO%20*%20EXT%20FRM%20GA%20%09%20Charge%202%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.568%282%29%28A%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20FRAUD%20USE/PERSONAL%20ID%20INFO%20*EXT%20FRM%20GA%20%09%20Charge%203%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.568%282%29%28A%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20FRAUD%20USE/%20PERSONAL%20ID%20INFO%20*EXT%20FRM%20GA%20%09%20Charge%204%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.034%284%29%28A%29%281%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20SCHME%20TO%20DEFRAUD%20$50,000%20OR%20MORE%20*EXT/GA%20%09%20Charge%205%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20812.014%282%29%28C%29%286%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20GRAND%20THEFT%20%28MOTOR%20VEHICLE%29"]http:// Charge 1 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO * EXT FRM GA Charge 2 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 3 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 4 STATUTE: 817.034(4)(A)(1)/F CHARGE: VOP SCHME TO DEFRAUD $50,000 OR MORE *EXT/GA Charge 5 STATUTE: 812.014(2)(C)(6)/F CHARGE: GRAND THEFT (MOTOR VEHICLE)[/URL]
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Kentavious_Ballard_2622017/ -
gut
Guy on the right is alive. Plays a detective on Law & OrderFatHobbit;1252036 wrote: -
O-Trap
It's possible. I wouldn't bet on it if I had to gamble, though.FatHobbit;1252015 wrote:I think you're implying that they made bad decisions or ran with the wrong crowd, which is possible. But one of them was shot while walking in the park in the morning and the other was shot while being robbed. Perhaps there is more to it than that but it's also possible that they were innocent. -
hasbeen
Beat me to it. It's Ice-T!gut;1252510 wrote:Guy on the right is alive. Plays a detective on Law & Order
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hoops23
Derrick Rose
said_aouita;1252502 wrote:Kentavious Ballard's mug shot
list of charges-
[URL="http:// Charge 1 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO * EXT FRM GA Charge 2 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 3 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 4 STATUTE: 817.034(4)(A)(1)/F CHARGE: VOP SCHME TO DEFRAUD $50,000 OR MORE *EXT/GA Charge 5 STATUTE: 812.014(2)(C)(6)/F CHARGE: GRAND THEFT (MOTOR VEHICLE)"]http:// Charge 1 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO * EXT FRM GA Charge 2 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 3 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 4 STATUTE: 817.034(4)(A)(1)/F CHARGE: VOP SCHME TO DEFRAUD $50,000 OR MORE *EXT/GA Charge 5 STATUTE: 812.014(2)(C)(6)/F CHARGE: GRAND THEFT (MOTOR VEHICLE)[/URL]
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Kentavious_Ballard_2622017/ -
DeadliestWarrior34
hasbeen;1252648 wrote:Beat me to it. It's Ice-T!
I'm pretty sure that's Will Smith -
BORIStheCrusher
I thought it was Denzel Washington.DeadliestWarrior34;1252696 wrote:I'm pretty sure that's Will Smith -
Gblocki have a buddy who lives in short north and about six mos ago he was returning home from dinner and drinks about 12am and a random car stopped and shot him as he was walking up to his porch. police believe it was some type of gang initiation but other than that have no clue. he is a really nice guy w no enemies or record so it does happen.
that being said these guys look like bangers to me. i also know lots of families of students ive had over the years that have up to 5-6 brothers who are all locked up or dead. its def a pattern w some families -
O-Trap
Oh, random violence does indeed happen. However, three of four boys in a household being victims of violence just doesn't seem "random."Gblock;1252793 wrote:i have a buddy who lives in short north and about six mos ago he was returning home from dinner and drinks about 12am and a random car stopped and shot him as he was walking up to his porch. police believe it was some type of gang initiation but other than that have no clue. he is a really nice guy w no enemies or record so it does happen.
that being said these guys look like bangers to me. i also know lots of families of students ive had over the years that have up to 5-6 brothers who are all locked up or dead. its def a pattern w some families -
said_aouita
What I'm thinking. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time happens rarely. A .750 average is a lot more than rarely.O-Trap;1252849 wrote:Oh, random violence does indeed happen. However, three of four boys in a household being victims of violence just doesn't seem "random."