CBS vs ESPN/ABC network...

• Laley23

  

  Not only would ESPN have ESPN and ESPN2 but they can utilize ABC for their prime games. I mean, in theory, ABC could have the same type of coverage as CBS with the other two ESPN channels showing other games. ABC would be the main headquarters for the tourney without cut-aways because it wouldnt be needed.
• reclegend22

  

  Are you freakin' insane? CBS' late game cut-aways and cut-ins are far and and away superior to anything ESPN could ever dream of doing. ESPN doesn't know the difference between a fucking buzzer beater and a lawn chair.
• Laley23

  

  reclegend22 wrote: Are you freakin' insane? CBS' late game cut-aways and cut-ins are far and and away superior to anything ESPN could ever dream of doing. ESPN doesn't know the difference between a fucking buzzer beater and a lawn chair.

  point is, with 3 channels they dont need to EVER cut away.
• reclegend22

  

  I wasn't referencing you, Laley.
  
  I was talking to the original poster's claim that CBS can't perform well-executed cut-ins and outs. He's extremely misplaced.
  
  The only reason I wouldn't want ESPN covering the tourney, even with all the channels -- many of which they never use no matter what bc they're f'n stupid -- is because CBS' quality production will NEVER be topped. But I guess that's just a personal preference.
• ytownfootball

  

  I'll forgo a little production for seeing the game I want without interruption.
• Laley23

  

  I LOVE the coverage of CBS, and after the first 2 days the missing games isnt really an issue anyway. But I would like to watch 3 games at once on the opening days.
• september63

  

  ESPN Networks wouldnt have this 1.5 hrs of news either. We are missing a game each night so the locals can show their news.
• ts1227

  

  september63 wrote: ESPN Networks wouldnt have this 1.5 hrs of news either. We are missing a game each night so the locals can show their news.

  The out of sync game could easily be avoided if they would just start the damn west coast games at the same time as everyone else. (The west sites don't play the first shift, and to make up for it we have the random game that's on now) So what if it's 9:30 AM local time? It's no worse than the 10PM tips in the evenings out east.
• wildcats20

  

  Almost all of the local cable companies are having a free preview of CBS College Sports. Which is where the game is on right now.
• Laley23

  

  Well, Buckeye Cable isnt as far as I can tell.
  
  Qualye has been AWFUL. They need him to step up big for any chance in this game.
• wildcats20

  

  Should have said in Columbus lol
• hoops23

  

  Only thing I hate about CBS is basically what they're doing right now.
  
  I'd rather be watching the GA Tech/OK St. game which is tied 19-19 with under 9 minutes t go in the 1st, yet I'm watching the MSU/New Mexico St game that just started and MSU leads 7-3
• Laley23

  

  Im not a huge fan of the regional thing either...but they kind of have to do it that way.
• hoops23

  

  On yeah, I know.. It'd be nice to have a choice though.
  
  Maybe in the year 3000
• Laley23

  

  LTrain23 wrote: On yeah, I know.. It'd be nice to have a choice though.
  
  Maybe in the year 3000

  Honestly, they should be able to do that soon. Be able to pick what feed you want from your cable box.
• WebFire

  I wish ESPN would broadcast in 1080 rather than 720.
• wildcats20

  

  Or the NCAA should quit being douches and let CBS broadcast on 4 channels like they did a few years back.
• hoops23

  

  WebFire wrote: I wish ESPN would broadcast in 1080 rather than 720.

  I thought all HD broadcasts were in 1080i
  
  However, 720p is better than 1080i, but 1080p is better than both.
• september63

  

  GT/Ok St 45-45 in 2nd half and CBS cuts away to go back to Spokanne? This is why a change is needed.
• hoops23

  

  Thank you.
• 2kool4skool

  

  Yeah, not going to Tech-OSU in a tie game with under 90 seconds is inexcusable.
• WebFire

  LTrain23 wrote:

  WebFire wrote: I wish ESPN would broadcast in 1080 rather than 720.

  I thought all HD broadcasts were in 1080i
  
  However, 720p is better than 1080i, but 1080p is better than both.

  720p is not better than 1080i, at least not on my tv. My DTV receiver has lights on the front that tells you what it is broadcasting in. ESPN is 720p, CBS is 1080i, although there isn't a light for 1080p, so I wonder if it is really 1080p?
  
  Anyway, all the 1080 channels look noticeably better than ESPN.
• hoops23

  

  720p is better than 1080i, though the difference is hardly noticeable.
  
  720p is a progressive scan, much like 1080p.
  
  That is why ESPN produces in 720p. Progressive scan is much smoother/faster which in turn, makes sports look better because of the constant motion.
  
  1080i is interlace, which isn't as smooth. Also, broadcasts in 1080i aren't always 1080i, meaning there aren't always 1080 lines interlaced into the feed.
  
  When the day comes that we're able to get 1080p, it'll be heaven though..
  
  I found this:
  

  To answer the question, it's important to understand the difference between 720p vs 1080i. A 720p signal is made up of 720 horizontal lines. Each frame is displayed in its entirety on-screen for 1/30th of a second. This is know as progressive scan (hence the 'p')The quality is like watching 30 photographic images a second on TV. A 1080i signal comprises 1080 horizontal lines but all the lines are not displayed on-screen simultaneously. Instead, they are interlaced (hence the 'i'), ie every other lines is displayed for 1/60th of a second and then the alternate lines are displayed for 1/60th of a second. So, the frame rate is still 30 frames per second, but each frame is split into two fields, which your brain then puts together subconsciously.
  
  Most of the time interlacing works fine, but for fast moving images, such as sports like baseball and hockey it can cause problems which manifest themselves as a 'stepping' effect on-screen. Progressive scan signals don't have this problem and so are better suited to sports.
  
  ESPN puts it like this: 'Progressive scan technology produces better images for the fast moving orientation of sports television. Simply put, with 104 mph fastballs in baseball and 120 mph shots on goal in hockey, the line-by-line basis of progressive scan technology better captures the inherent fast action of sports. For ESPN, progressive scan technology makes perfect sense.'

• WebFire

  Yeah I get all that. But with the difference so small, the 1080i looks better than the 720p. I have never noticed any difference in the smoothness, even when watching basketball. So I prefer the 1080i. I'm sure it depends on what TV you have as well.
• WebFire

  Funny, I was just reading that exact article.