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West Virginia-4th #1 Seed

  • Prescott
    Why West Virginia received the final No. 1:

    Depending on what you value, you can make arguments for West Virginia, Duke and Ohio State as the final 1 seed today.

    I thought the quality of WVU's best wins -- at Villanova, vs. Texas A&M, Ohio State (with Evan Turner), plus Pitt, Georgetown and Louisville -- was superior to what Duke had to offer. The Blue Devils only have one RPI top-25 win; WVU has four in the top 15, with very comparable overall computer numbers, top-50 and top-100 marks. When it comes to a 1 seed, I want to know you can beat the best, and the Mountaineers have provided more evidence of that this season.

    Ohio State, if you completely discount the six games Turner missed, is 21-4 (14-2 Big Ten) with a 5-2 mark vs. the top 50 and wins at Purdue and Michigan State. If the committee does that, it's a very compelling 1-seed profile, but WVU holds the head-to-head victory, which gives the 'Eers the leg up. Yes, the game was in Morgantown and Ohio State led for much of the eventual six-point loss, but when you're talking 1 seeds, those are the (tie)breaks.

    This will be settled during the conference tournaments, with whichever team goes the farthest likely to land the final 1 seed. Given the depth of competition at the top of the Big East, though, the spot now could be West Virginia's to lose.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/03/08/bracket.watch/index.html?eref=sircrc
  • centralbucksfan
    Cant' disagree with the above. Its very close right now.
  • mallymal614
    Conference tournaments will say a lot about who gets the final number 1 seed.
  • johngrizzly
    I just can't see a team that finished 4th in their conference warranting a #1 seed.
  • 2shoes
    WVU could garner a 1 seed, if Duke loses in the ACC tourney, and depending on what they do in the BE tourney.
    If Duke wins the ACC, they get a 1.
  • thedynasty1998
    I've been thinking this for awhile now. I think Purdue is eliminated from a #1 since Hummel is out. It's Duke's to lose at this point, but if they slip up, I think WVU has a better argument than WVU. But it would be hard to give it to a team who finished 4th in their conference over a conference champ.
  • Big Gain
    "I think WVU has a better argument than WVU." ????
  • Footwedge
    Ohio State will get the number 1 seed if they win out...doesn't matter what duke does.

    This year, the Big 10>ACC.
  • Laley23
    Big Gain wrote: "I think WVU has a better argument than WVU." ????
    I lol'd as well. He clearley meant WVU over OSU though.
  • thedynasty1998
    I did mean OSU, sorry for the confusion.

    I don't think WVU has a shot, but I think that they could make a good argument over OSU only because of the head to head meeting.
  • centralbucksfan
    I personally think WVU could sneak into the final #1 slot if they make a run in the BET. I like this WVU team and think they have Final Four potential.
    If it came down to OSU/WVU..I am not so sure that head to head means much since the game was @ WVU.
  • mallymal614
    Best chances of getting the last #1 seed in my opinion

    1. Duke
    2. Ohio State
    3. West Virginia
  • Laley23
    ccrunner609 wrote: If head to head meant anything, Louisville and Tennessee would be #1, #2 in the country.
    God I hate when people say stupid shit like this. Of course no one means head to head in that sense. When the resumes are so close together though, head to head is a good barometer to use as a measuring stick.
  • centralbucksfan
    Laley23 wrote:
    ccrunner609 wrote: If head to head meant anything, Louisville and Tennessee would be #1, #2 in the country.
    God I hate when people say stupid shit like this. Of course no one means head to head in that sense. When the resumes are so close together though, head to head is a good barometer to use as a measuring stick.
    NOt sure I buy into this totally. Using OSU vs WVU...that game was @ WVU and OSU played them very close, actually having a nice lead for more then half the game. I don't know what the spread was...but OSU was an obvious underdog. In NCAA...unless your playing one of the top seeds...there are no "home" games. So unless the game was played on a neutral court, and unless a team just absolutely dominated the game...I am not sure that head to head is looked as closely as some think.
  • Laley23
    centralbucksfan wrote:
    Laley23 wrote:
    ccrunner609 wrote: If head to head meant anything, Louisville and Tennessee would be #1, #2 in the country.
    God I hate when people say stupid shit like this. Of course no one means head to head in that sense. When the resumes are so close together though, head to head is a good barometer to use as a measuring stick.
    NOt sure I buy into this totally. Using OSU vs WVU...that game was @ WVU and OSU played them very close, actually having a nice lead for more then half the game. I don't know what the spread was...but OSU was an obvious underdog. In NCAA...unless your playing one of the top seeds...there are no "home" games. So unless the game was played on a neutral court, and unless a team just absolutely dominated the game...I am not sure that head to head is looked as closely as some think.
    Im not sure either. The point I was making was how ludicrous his comment about l'ville and Tenn being #1 seeds because they beat them head to head.
  • dokken
    Yes, we should NOT look at head-to-head match ups anymore. There are better ways to determine who is a better team...............wait a minute, now I'm confusing myself?