Question for True College Hoops Fans

• centralbucksfan

  SportsAndLady wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  SportsAndLady wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  SportsAndLady wrote: Sorry but if I had the opportunity to go from a good job to a great job with an increase of salary in the millions, I wouldn't say no because of my duaghters lol

  HEre is an FYI for you...OSU actually has GREAT tradition in college basketball. Certainly one of the top 10 in traditions. Yes, they lack the national titles, and it has been a LONG time. But in number of final fours, great players, etc, etc...OSU is a top ten program. And its only getting better now with Matta as coach. Will it ever be a UK, KU, UNC....doubtful...just as those schools will never be OSU in football. But make no mistake....OSU has great tradition in bball, and Matta is building on that.

  Uhhh yeah, that's why I said "good" and UK, KU, UNC "great"

  Uhhh, and believe it or not, not everyone would be knocking down the door to coach at those programs as many would like to believe. All you have to do is look at a great school like ND to figure out not every coach, even the current best coach in football (Meyer), wants to caoch at the great schools.

  Yeah keep telling yourself that LOL

  Uh, don't need to. I know better....only an arrogant fool with blinders on thinks differently. Then you end up where IU is currently.
• SportsAndLady

  

  centralbucksfan wrote:only an arrogant fool with blinders on

  You just perfectly described yourself, that was cute.
• ts1227

  

  centralbucksfan wrote: Uh, don't need to. I know better....only an arrogant fool with blinders on thinks differently. Then you end up where IU is currently.

  
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  Laley23 wrote: Would he? Yes.
  
  Will he? No.
  
  I doubt he ever gets offered on the the handful of jobs that is clearly better.

  I stopped reading at this post because this was exactly my thoughts. There are only a few places I think he would leave for and I doubt he ever gets the offer.
• centralbucksfan

  Laley23 wrote:
  I doubt he ever gets offered on the the handful of jobs that is clearly better.

  If that were the mindset at Kansas.....then they might not be where they are currently with Bill Self.
• Laley23

  

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  Laley23 wrote:
  I doubt he ever gets offered on the the handful of jobs that is clearly better.

  If that were the mindset at Kansas.....then they might not be where they are currently with Bill Self.

  Well I didnt mean he isnt capable by any means. My statement was more directed at only about 5 jobs as I see being better. Duke and UNC are the only ones I see where Matta has a chance (based on the coaches retiring soon). Self, Howland (and I argue UCLA isnt that great of a job) and Cal are young enough where Matta wouldnt even have a shot.
  
  Duke just doesnt seem like it would be a good fit at all. I dont know why, but I see them hiring on of their own (Wojo, Dawkins, etc).
  
  UNC I think is a pretty good fit and might look around for a coach. I just dont think Matta would get offered the position. Based on nothing at all but a hunch.
  
  Indiana has Crean for 8 more years. Matta wouldnt leave for that job though.
• centralbucksfan

  Laley23 wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  Laley23 wrote:
  I doubt he ever gets offered on the the handful of jobs that is clearly better.

  If that were the mindset at Kansas.....then they might not be where they are currently with Bill Self.

  Well I didnt mean he isnt capable by any means. My statement was more directed at only about 5 jobs as I see being better. Duke and UNC are the only ones I see where Matta has a chance (based on the coaches retiring soon). Self, Howland (and I argue UCLA isnt that great of a job) and Cal are young enough where Matta wouldnt even have a shot.
  
  Duke just doesnt seem like it would be a good fit at all. I dont know why, but I see them hiring on of their own (Wojo, Dawkins, etc).
  
  UNC I think is a pretty good fit and might look around for a coach. I just dont think Matta would get offered the position. Based on nothing at all but a hunch.
  
  Indiana has Crean for 8 more years. Matta wouldnt leave for that job though.

  Gotcha...misunderstand. My bad.
• wildcats20

  

  Carolina will stay in the Family, as will Duke IMO.
  
  I'm not sure who will be next in Chapel Hill though. I would probably bet a large sum of money that Collins will be the next Duke coach though.
  
  For some reason, like you said Laley just a hunch, I could see Matta leaving to go out west somewhere. He has ties to Indy and the Midwest, I think he could do some damage out there. NOT that it is a better job, but Oregon is going to be opening up here in the next week or so.
• Laley23

  

  wildcats20 wrote: Carolina will stay in the Family, as will Duke IMO.
  
  I'm not sure who will be next in Chapel Hill though. I would probably bet a large sum of money that Collins will be the next Duke coach though.
  
  For some reason, like you said Laley just a hunch, I could see Matta leaving to go out west somewhere. He has ties to Indy and the Midwest, I think he could do some damage out there. NOT that it is a better job, but Oregon is going to be opening up here in the next week or so.

  Yeah, Duke I thinks its clear will hire within. Wojo looks to be the obvious pick...but im not sure how well it will work out.
  
  UNC Im not as sure on who they would go with. You obviously follow them more, so Ill take your word for it. They have hired within (or at least Alma Mater) the last couple times, so it wouldnt shock me at all if they stayed the course again.
• reclegend22

  

  I know many Blue Devil faithful don't want it, but I want Collins at Duke. I love Chris Collins and the passion he has for Duke. His intensity, talent for recruiting and knowledge of basketball (he was designing Xs and Os in Osh Kosh B'Gosh or whatever the hell it is with his father Doug when he was two). He hasn't held a job outside Duke as of yet (aside from his stint under Bill Laimbeer and the Detroit Shock in the late '90s and '00, I believe), but Collins is a perfect fit.
  
  Would he be a success? It's hard to tell. But, as a beloved fan of the Blue Devils, I am willing to give him the opportunity to try.
  
  If Duke doesn't go with Collins, I think it's almost 95 percent that Duke will go with either Wojo or Dawkins.
• wildcats20

  

  I made that comment about Oregon, I in no way shape or form think Matta would leave right now. But I think it could be a job like that that could lure him.
• reclegend22

  

  Even with the Phil Knight connection and all the amenities that go along with it, I'm not sure Oregon would be a great move more Matta. I might even argue that Oregon is just as football-focused as OSU is (to differing degrees obviously) as compared to its basketball program. And OSU's facilities can probably match anything even Knight can help Oregon out with.
  
  It's an interesting proposition, though. But very unlikely.
  
  Two moves I could see Matta making (to a school outside the Super Six) are to Connecticut or Syracuse once their respective coaches have moved on. These are both huge universities with big athletic budgets that could afford a guy like Matta, and are basketball-centric schools with great histories. I think Matta could recruit the type of players he has been with even more success in either location, and win big. Something interesting to think about if nothing else.
• wildcats20

  

  I just think a job out west, somewhere biggish could lure Matta. Not necessarily Oregon, that was just the one that popped into my head since most like it will be open in a week.
• reclegend22

  

  Gotcha.
• Big Gain

  SportsAndLady wrote: Sorry but if I had the opportunity to go from a good job to a great job with an increase of salary in the millions, I wouldn't say no because of my duaghters lol

  
  Obviously you've never heard of the Peter Principle.
• Big Gain

  wildcats20 wrote: I made that comment about Oregon, I in no way shape or form think Matta would leave right now. But I think it could be a job like that that could lure him.

  One hell of a lot more difficult to recruit at Oregon than Ohio State.
• Big Gain

  SportsAndLady wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:only an arrogant fool with blinders on

  You just perfectly described yourself, that was cute.

  So original of you.
• wildcats20

  

  Big Gain wrote:

  wildcats20 wrote: I made that comment about Oregon, I in no way shape or form think Matta would leave right now. But I think it could be a job like that that could lure him.

  One hell of a lot more difficult to recruit to at Oregon than Ohio State.

  For the 3rd time.
  
  I do not think Matta would leave for Oregon.
• Big Gain

  reclegend22 wrote: Even with the Phil Knight connection and all the amenities that go along with it, I'm not sure Oregon would be a great move more Matta. I might even argue that Oregon is just as football-focused as OSU is (to differing degrees obviously) as compared to its basketball program. And OSU's facilities can probably match anything even Knight can help Oregon out with.
  
  It's an interesting proposition, though. But very unlikely.
  
  Two moves I could see Matta making (to a school outside the Super Six) are to Connecticut or Syracuse once their respective coaches have moved on. These are both huge universities with big athletic budgets that could afford a guy like Matta, and are basketball-centric schools with great histories. I think Matta could recruit the type of players he has been with even more success in either location, and win big. Something interesting to think about if nothing else.

  Ohio State's athletic budget is twice as big as UCONN's and Syracuse's.
• Karl Childers

  He'd go in a second for a more prestigious position. Basketball is a much bigger at Kansas, KY, and several other schools. Basketball always be #2 at OSU. Not so at some other places. For whatever reason (football? The seating at the Schott?) the students have never supported basketball at Ohio State. There have been exceptions but rarely do you see the raucous crowds that you see at every game in other arenas. I was listening to a game on the radio the other night and you could hear individual fans yelling at the refs along with the player's shoes squeaking in the floor. Pretty sad. Oh yeah, he'd go.
• Prescott

  Two moves I could see Matta making (to a school outside the Super Six) are to Connecticut or Syracuse once their respective coaches have moved on. These are both huge universities with big athletic budgets that could afford a guy like Matta, and are basketball-centric schools with great histories. I think Matta could recruit the type of players he has been with even more success in either location, and win big.

  He had the #1 class with Oden and next year's class is ranked in the top 3. I don't think OSU is hurting Matta's recruiting efforts.
  
  I would see a move to Syracuse or UConn as a lateral move. Those jobs might have been better before Matta arrived , but he has made OSU a better job and on par with Syracuse and UConn.
• centralbucksfan

  Karl Childers wrote: He'd go in a second for a more prestigious position. Basketball is a much bigger at Kansas, KY, and several other schools. Basketball always be #2 at OSU. Not so at some other places. For whatever reason (football? The seating at the Schott?) the students have never supported basketball at Ohio State. There have been exceptions but rarely do you see the raucous crowds that you see at every game in other arenas. I was listening to a game on the radio the other night and you could hear individual fans yelling at the refs along with the player's shoes squeaking in the floor. Pretty sad. Oh yeah, he'd go.

  Really? I guess thats why he expressed such an interest in his "dream job", IU, when that was open a couple years ago. (sarcasm)
  And the students have in fact supported OSU bball..the issue isn't the students, its the administration and seating arrangement. Prior to the Schott opening...St John was a GREAT atmosphere and students were awesome.
  Listening to a game the other nite? Hmm, the Ill game? I was there, 17K plus and it was a great atmosphere with huge student turnout.
  I am not saying OSU is the best place in the world....but Matta has currently won 3 of the past 5 Big Ten titles, been to a FINAL NCAA Championship...all of this within 6yrs or walking into an absolutely mess with the NCAA. He has the #1 class coming in next year, AGAIN. OSU is currently a top 10 team as well. I think things are looking pretty darn good at OSU for the basketball program and its only going to get better IMO.
  
  And who said OREGON? LOL Are you kidding me?
• wildcats20

  

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  Karl Childers wrote: He'd go in a second for a more prestigious position. Basketball is a much bigger at Kansas, KY, and several other schools. Basketball always be #2 at OSU. Not so at some other places. For whatever reason (football? The seating at the Schott?) the students have never supported basketball at Ohio State. There have been exceptions but rarely do you see the raucous crowds that you see at every game in other arenas. I was listening to a game on the radio the other night and you could hear individual fans yelling at the refs along with the player's shoes squeaking in the floor. Pretty sad. Oh yeah, he'd go.

  Really? I guess thats why he expressed such an interest in his "dream job", IU, when that was open a couple years ago. (sarcasm)
  And the students have in fact supported OSU bball..the issue isn't the students, its the administration and seating arrangement. Prior to the Schott opening...St John was a GREAT atmosphere and students were awesome.
  Listening to a game the other nite? Hmm, the Ill game? I was there, 17K plus and it was a great atmosphere with huge student turnout.
  I am not saying OSU is the best place in the world....but Matta has currently won 3 of the past 5 Big Ten titles, been to a FINAL NCAA Championship...all of this within 6yrs or walking into an absolutely mess with the NCAA. He has the #1 class coming in next year, AGAIN. OSU is currently a top 10 team as well. I think things are looking pretty darn good at OSU for the basketball program and its only going to get better IMO.
  
  And who said OREGON? LOL Are you kidding me?

  For the 4th time. I never said he would leave FOR Oregon, just a job out west is all I could see.
• centralbucksfan

  wildcats20 wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  Karl Childers wrote: He'd go in a second for a more prestigious position. Basketball is a much bigger at Kansas, KY, and several other schools. Basketball always be #2 at OSU. Not so at some other places. For whatever reason (football? The seating at the Schott?) the students have never supported basketball at Ohio State. There have been exceptions but rarely do you see the raucous crowds that you see at every game in other arenas. I was listening to a game on the radio the other night and you could hear individual fans yelling at the refs along with the player's shoes squeaking in the floor. Pretty sad. Oh yeah, he'd go.

  Really? I guess thats why he expressed such an interest in his "dream job", IU, when that was open a couple years ago. (sarcasm)
  And the students have in fact supported OSU bball..the issue isn't the students, its the administration and seating arrangement. Prior to the Schott opening...St John was a GREAT atmosphere and students were awesome.
  Listening to a game the other nite? Hmm, the Ill game? I was there, 17K plus and it was a great atmosphere with huge student turnout.
  I am not saying OSU is the best place in the world....but Matta has currently won 3 of the past 5 Big Ten titles, been to a FINAL NCAA Championship...all of this within 6yrs or walking into an absolutely mess with the NCAA. He has the #1 class coming in next year, AGAIN. OSU is currently a top 10 team as well. I think things are looking pretty darn good at OSU for the basketball program and its only going to get better IMO.
  
  And who said OREGON? LOL Are you kidding me?

  For the 4th time. I never said he would leave FOR Oregon, just a job out west is all I could see.

  And, why would a midwest guy, who has recruting down pat in the midwest, pick up and move out west when he has never been there? Makes absolutely no sense.
• RiverRat13

  I think people discount being the "second" sport at a school's advantages. There is not nearly the pressure as a Kentucky or Indiana, yet Matta has proven he can take OSU to the highest level (National Championship game) and can bring in #1 classes. And OSU can match any other school but maybe Kentucky in money for a basketball coach. Carolina, Duke, Indiana or Kansas isn't going to get in a bidding war for a coach.
  
  The only jobs that are on a higher plane than OSU would be Carolina, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky and Indiana. Any other job, including UCLA at this point, would be a lateral move. And like previously stated on this thread, Bill Self will be at Kansas for the next 15+ years and Carolina/Duke will most likely hire within their program's "family". That only leaves UK and Indiana, both of which have been open twice since Matta has been at OSU, yet Matta is still in Columbus.