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dave

Is this going to happen if they both win out? I can't see another team out there that would be a good selection for the fiesta committee unless maybe Oklahoma St wins out. Penn St. would be an option too but would they really travel better than these 2 programs?

enigmaax

Haven't thought much about who is going to pick who, but I doubt this will happen. The first reason is that they played last year in a bowl game and nobody cared.

hoops23

I've heard that the Fiesta Bowl committee was lobbying to get Iowa if they lost to Ohio State because of the influx of Iowans they have there..

If so, they'd be getting a damn good team.

Lovejoy1984

I think you'll see Cincy matched up with one of the 2 somewhere.

jordo212000

I want to see these teams play some of the Big Boys. I'd hate to see 2 non-BCS teams face off. Give me TCU/Boise vs. Texas/Alabama. I would like to know how good they are.

dave

LTrain23 wrote: I've heard that the Fiesta Bowl committee was lobbying to get Iowa if they lost to Ohio State because of the influx of Iowans they have there..

If so, they'd be getting a damn good team.

I kinda forgot about them. If they get by Minnesota they will probably be in the top 14. I don't know why they would really want a team with no offense but it's all about the $.

hoops23

That QB who played today is definitely capable of providing them with offense lol..

eersandbeers

jordo212000 wrote: I want to see these teams play some of the Big Boys. I'd hate to see 2 non-BCS teams face off. Give me TCU/Boise vs. Texas/Alabama. I would like to know how good they are.

Agreed. The midmajors have consistently played well against the so called top teams. I'd like to see a TCU or Boise stomp a major conference team.

isadore

Boise gave the bowls one of the best games EVER, looking forward to the return of these outstanding midmajors.

dave

LTrain23 wrote: That QB who played today is definitely capable of providing them with offense lol..

how will he do that? all he has is a strong arm. he can't throw over coverage, panics under pressure, they have no running game due to injury, and their only reliable receiver is their tight end. they had great field position all day today and still only had maybe 2 good drives all game. now that other teams have film on him they will exploit his weaknesses.

he will be very good some day, but they can't compete with tcu's defense or offense.

dave

the fiesta and orange bowls are most likely the only chance for these teams to go, so basically only the fiesta. the orange isn't going to take a team from out west. you won't see both in a bcs unless it's against eachother.

hoops23

Clam down bro, I was half being sarcastic.

All in all, he had a very good gamne for his first start in that environment.

enigmaax

What is the order they pick this year?

Cleveland Buck

enigmaax wrote: What is the order they pick this year?

Assuming you have a top ranked SEC vs. Texas in the NC game, the selection order is:

Sugar
Fiesta
Orange
Fiesta
Sugar

Cleveland Buck

Boise vs. TCU would be the lowest rated of any BCS bowls since the inception of the BCS. The Fiesta gets the second to last pick, so they will be stuck with TCU or the Big East champion, in which case they would take TCU because they are closer to Arizona than Cincy is.

Edit: Oh, and a Boise/TCU Fiesta Bowl will never in a million years happen.

Leonardo

jordo212000 wrote: I want to see these teams play some of the Big Boys. I'd hate to see 2 non-BCS teams face off. Give me TCU/Boise vs. Texas/Alabama. I would like to know how good they are.

I agree. I want to see them face other teams, and not each other.

trackandccrunner

I'd like to see one of them against Cincy and the Other against the SEC loser(probably Bama) It would be funny to see Bama get rolled by another mid-major.

that one guy

TCU/BSU could stomp Texas/Florida IDK whats with all the hate on Non-BCS teams there just as good and I think better!

Sykotyk

Here's the rules:

The top 2 teams in the BCS will automatically qualify.

All six BCS conference champions automatically qualify.

One non-BCS conference champion will qualify if they either ranked in the top 12 or are in the top 16 and are higher ranked than a BCS conference champion.

Notre Dame gets in if ranked in the top 8.

#3 and #4 can be automatic qualifiers if their conference champion doesn't qualify for the BCS title game.

Next, is the at-large bids.

Any team with 9 wins in the top 14 qualifies.

No more than 2 teams per conference (unless the two teams from the same conference are #1 and #2 and the conference champion is ranked lower in the BCS, they also get in).

If out of the top 14, there isn't enough team to fill in the 10 spots, they expand to the top 18.

Here's the order of selection:

Orange Bowl - ACC champion vs. at-large
Rose Bowl - Big Ten champion vs. PAC-10 champion
Sugar Bowl - SEC Champion vs. at-large
Fiesta Bowl - Big XII Champion vs. at-large
BCS National Championship Game - #1 vs. #2

If a bowl loses one of their 'anchor teams' to the title game, they get first replacement (#1 goes first, #2 goes second). They can't pick another 'anchor team' and they can't pick from outside the at-large pool.

The last bowl to pick must pick any team still automatically qualifier. If 2, then the last 2 bowls, etc.

So, this year's are (based on current BCS standings, I'll updated when the new rankings come out this afternoon):

NCG: #1 Florida (SEC) vs. #2 Texas (XII) (I'm accepting the inevitable fact UF/UA must lose, and that will probably drop them)
Orange: Georgia Tech (ACC) vs. at-large
Fiesta: Second Pick vs. at-large
Sugar: First Pick vs. at-large
Rose: Oregon (PAC-10) vs. Ohio State (Big Ten)

That leaves these automatic qualifiers left:
TCU (highest non-BCS) and Cincinnati (Big East)

These at-large teams are available:
Alabama (current #2)
Boise State (#6)
USC (#9)
Iowa (#10)
Pittsburgh (#12)
Miami [FL] (#14)

Of course, Iowa, USC, and Miami are going to move down this week with their losses. Alabama (I assume) is going to lose the SEC title game, but will stay in the top 14 to be an at-large over fellow SEC at-large LSU (remember, on 2 teams per conference, so if Alabama gets picked, LSU can't).

So, First Pick belongs to the Sugar who will, probably, take Alabama. Second pick belongs to the Fiesta who I think may take TCU, as they've had a history and probably would be expecting TCU to travel well to such a big game.

So, that leaves:

NCG: Florida vs. Texas
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. at-large
Fiesta: TCU vs. at-large
Sugar: Alabama vs. at-large
Rose: Oregon vs. Ohio State

Cincinnati still is an AQ team.

Boise State (#6)
USC (#9)
Iowa (#10)
Pittsburgh (#12)
Miami [FL] (#14)

Of course, this is moot given that USC, Iowa and Miami just lost and the rankings tonight are going to be vastly different. But, it's just an example today, I'll update it later:

The Orange gets the first pick and I think would take the obvious choice of Miami. The Fiesta gets the next pick, and I think would take take USC for the money over Boise State. That would leave Cincinnati the only choice for the Sugar.

NCG: Florida vs. Texas
Orange; Georgia Tech vs. Miami
Fiesta; TCU vs. USC
Sugar: Alabama vs. Cincinnati
Rose: Oregon vs. Ohio State

Once again, if anyone wants to criticize this selection process REMEMBER this is based on last weeks rankings as the new rankings aren't released until later today. So, go ahead and look like an idiot for arguing why Iowa, USC, or Miami shouldn't be in the BCS. I'll sit back and laugh at your illiteracy.

Sykotyk

Cleveland Buck

Sykotyk wrote: Here's the rules:

The top 2 teams in the BCS will automatically qualify.

All six BCS conference champions automatically qualify.

One non-BCS conference champion will qualify if they either ranked in the top 12 or are in the top 16 and are higher ranked than a BCS conference champion.

Notre Dame gets in if ranked in the top 8.

#3 and #4 can be automatic qualifiers if their conference champion doesn't qualify for the BCS title game.

Next, is the at-large bids.

Any team with 9 wins in the top 14 qualifies.

No more than 2 teams per conference (unless the two teams from the same conference are #1 and #2 and the conference champion is ranked lower in the BCS, they also get in).

If out of the top 14, there isn't enough team to fill in the 10 spots, they expand to the top 18.

Here's the order of selection:

Orange Bowl - ACC champion vs. at-large
Rose Bowl - Big Ten champion vs. PAC-10 champion
Sugar Bowl - SEC Champion vs. at-large
Fiesta Bowl - Big XII Champion vs. at-large
BCS National Championship Game - #1 vs. #2

If a bowl loses one of their 'anchor teams' to the title game, they get first replacement (#1 goes first, #2 goes second). They can't pick another 'anchor team' and they can't pick from outside the at-large pool.

The last bowl to pick must pick any team still automatically qualifier. If 2, then the last 2 bowls, etc.

So, this year's are (based on current BCS standings, I'll updated when the new rankings come out this afternoon):

NCG: #1 Florida (SEC) vs. #2 Texas (XII) (I'm accepting the inevitable fact UF/UA must lose, and that will probably drop them)
Orange: Georgia Tech (ACC) vs. at-large
Fiesta: Second Pick vs. at-large
Sugar: First Pick vs. at-large
Rose: Oregon (PAC-10) vs. Ohio State (Big Ten)

That leaves these automatic qualifiers left:
TCU (highest non-BCS) and Cincinnati (Big East)

These at-large teams are available:
Alabama (current #2)
Boise State (#6)
USC (#9)
Iowa (#10)
Pittsburgh (#12)
Miami [FL] (#14)

Of course, Iowa, USC, and Miami are going to move down this week with their losses. Alabama (I assume) is going to lose the SEC title game, but will stay in the top 14 to be an at-large over fellow SEC at-large LSU (remember, on 2 teams per conference, so if Alabama gets picked, LSU can't).

So, First Pick belongs to the Sugar who will, probably, take Alabama. Second pick belongs to the Fiesta who I think may take TCU, as they've had a history and probably would be expecting TCU to travel well to such a big game.

So, that leaves:

NCG: Florida vs. Texas
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. at-large
Fiesta: TCU vs. at-large
Sugar: Alabama vs. at-large
Rose: Oregon vs. Ohio State

Cincinnati still is an AQ team.

Boise State (#6)
USC (#9)
Iowa (#10)
Pittsburgh (#12)
Miami [FL] (#14)

Of course, this is moot given that USC, Iowa and Miami just lost and the rankings tonight are going to be vastly different. But, it's just an example today, I'll update it later:

The Orange gets the first pick and I think would take the obvious choice of Miami. The Fiesta gets the next pick, and I think would take take USC for the money over Boise State. That would leave Cincinnati the only choice for the Sugar.

NCG: Florida vs. Texas
Orange; Georgia Tech vs. Miami
Fiesta; TCU vs. USC
Sugar: Alabama vs. Cincinnati
Rose: Oregon vs. Ohio State

Once again, if anyone wants to criticize this selection process REMEMBER this is based on last weeks rankings as the new rankings aren't released until later today. So, go ahead and look like an idiot for arguing why Iowa, USC, or Miami shouldn't be in the BCS. I'll sit back and laugh at your illiteracy.

Sykotyk

Miami lost to UNC yesterday, so they are done. Oklahoma State was 19 in the BCS and the 14-17 teams all lost, so they will be right around 15. They just have to move up one more spot to get in the mix. Penn State was 18, so they will move up, and Iowa played tough in Columbus, so they might not fall that far. A second Big Ten team is almost guaranteed a BCS at large bid at this point. No bowl would ever take Boise State over a Penn State or Iowa sitting there. USC lost, but they aren't out of it either, since they are USC and will probably only drop a couple spots.

darbypitcher22

I'd love to see both these teams get some love, and, if they go undefeated and win their bowl game (like Utah did last year against Bama) get a slice of the title from the voters outthere. we all know it'll never happen tho

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