Early results from the polls!

• DefianceBlu

  tOSU Buckeyes 5th as all suspected. Way to come back....Oh what might of been!!!
  
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• Benny The Jet

  

  DefianceBlu wrote: tOSU Buckeyes 5th as all suspected. Way to come back....Oh what might of been!!!
  
  
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  They did a great job finishing the year. What do you mean exactly by what might of been? I honestly think that regardless if they went undefeated this season, they still would not have gotten into the national title game over undefeated Big12 and SEC champs. The best they could have finished was 2nd.
• DefianceBlu

  I would of taken that in a heartbeat!!! And yes I know, with the stigma of all those loses...they couldnt of asked or gotten anymore than that!
  
  
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• vball10set

  love the way they played the last half of the season,culminating with a nice BCS Bowl win--the future looks good for '10 !!!
• Preacher

  Disaggree had OSU gone undefeated they would have been in the Championship game with Bama.
  Texas lackluster game vs Nebraska would have allowed them to slip.
  No way was the powers going to allow Cin, BSU, TCU to jump Texas.
  Need Heavy weights in Championship game for the $$$$$$$$$.
• Benny The Jet

  

  Preacher wrote: Disaggree had OSU gone undefeated they would have been in the Championship game with Bama.
  Texas lackluster game vs Nebraska would have allowed them to slip.
  No way was the powers going to allow Cin, BSU, TCU to jump Texas.
  Need Heavy weights in Championship game for the $$$$$$$$$.

  While I can understand the Nebraska game allowing them to possibly slip in...I have to politely disagree. With the last 2 horrible performances OSU put on in the championship games (both vs. SEC teams), and the fact the media and everyone believed the Big 10 isn't as strong of a conferences as it once was...they would not have jumped Texas. And if you wannt talk about heavyweights in the game and bringing in $$$$$, Texas is the biggest school in the country. I understand OSU travels well and what not, but the national perception of OSU up until the Rose Bowl was that they didn't play in a strong conference and there would have been an uproar if OSU were undefeated and jumped an undefeated Texas team. Texas obviously travels well and brings in tons of money as well.
• Ironman92

  

  OSU beating Iowa and Penn St with their final rankings...let's just concur that it would've been a mess in the BCS....maybe enough to get rid of the damn thing.
• Mr. 300

  

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• Benny The Jet

  

  I-O!
• Pick6

  

  There were actually about 3000 more in attendance for the Rose Bowl than the Nat Championship.
• Preacher

  Benny The Jet wrote:

  Preacher wrote: Disaggree had OSU gone undefeated they would have been in the Championship game with Bama.
  Texas lackluster game vs Nebraska would have allowed them to slip.
  No way was the powers going to allow Cin, BSU, TCU to jump Texas.
  Need Heavy weights in Championship game for the $$$$$$$$$.

  While I can understand the Nebraska game allowing them to possibly slip in...I have to politely disagree. With the last 2 horrible performances OSU put on in the championship games (both vs. SEC teams), and the fact the media and everyone believed the Big 10 isn't as strong of a conferences as it once was...they would not have jumped Texas. And if you wannt talk about heavyweights in the game and bringing in $$$$$, Texas is the biggest school in the country. I understand OSU travels well and what not, but the national perception of OSU up until the Rose Bowl was that they didn't play in a strong conference and there would have been an uproar if OSU were undefeated and jumped an undefeated Texas team. Texas obviously travels well and brings in tons of money as well.

  When I was talking heavy weights I was referring to the powers not allowing midmajors in the NC game. I agree with the past two NC games and OSU. However had the Buckeyes beaten USC and Purdue they would have most assuredly been top 3. With the stumble against Nebraska I feel the Bucks would have jumped. We will never know because the above senerio did not occur. Alabama beat Texas in NC game. I do believe at the end of the year OSU is the 4th best team in Americal behind Bama, Texas, Florida .jmho
• noreply66

  the Bucks had USC beat and they shouldn't have lost to Purdue
• Turf Warden

  Let's just say that the Buckeyes were a much better team at the end than they were early on. I can live with that!
• Benny The Jet

  

  Turf Warden wrote: Let's just say that the Buckeyes were a much better team at the end than they were early on. I can live with that!

  Yes absolutely. The way they ended this season, you want them to keep on playing the top tier teams and see what we could do.
• Heretic

  

  Preacher wrote:When I was talking heavy weights I was referring to the powers not allowing midmajors in the NC game. I agree with the past two NC games and OSU. However had the Buckeyes beaten USC and Purdue they would have most assuredly been top 3. With the stumble against Nebraska I feel the Bucks would have jumped. We will never know because the above senerio did not occur. Alabama beat Texas in NC game. I do believe at the end of the year OSU is the 4th best team in Americal behind Bama, Texas, Florida .jmho

  I can understand what you're saying, but I don't think I can agree for a combination of three reasons.
  
  1. I think OSU would need to have a sizable advantage over any other undefeated team to get into the NC. There's just so much public perception against the Buckeyes that I can't see many human voters giving them the chance.
  
  2. Beating USC and Purdue wouldn't have ended up this huge boost in an "us vs. Texas" deal. Purdue was a lousy team with one win when they played them. USC wound up being a good team, but not a national player. I don't know if they wound up with a resume impressive enough to convince voters to put them ahead of Texas after the Nebraska game.
  
  3. Especially since they didn't win all their games impressively. Nebraska wasn't some chump. They were 9-3 or so and ranked around 15-17. OSU needed overtime to beat Iowa without their starting QB a handful of weeks previously. And in their final game, they seemed VERY conservative against Michigan...where they looked to get a lead and just hold it. If they were unbeaten at this point and beat Michigan, say, 44-7, AFTER dominating Iowa and their inexperienced QB like it looked like they would do for a good portion of that game, I would agree with you. But blowing a sizable lead and needing OT against Iowa and then playing it close-to-the-vest against Michigan didn't have us ending the season with that "they could crash the party" feeling.
  
  
  If you add the "win decisively every week" stipulation to the "undefeated" one, I can see myself agreeing with you.
• DefianceBlu

  If tOSU had finished unbeaten I would of been very happy with a 2nd place finish...nuff said
  
  
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• Skyhook79

  

  3 Big 10 teams in the top 10, any other conf. do that?
• Preacher

  Heretic wrote:

  Preacher wrote:When I was talking heavy weights I was referring to the powers not allowing midmajors in the NC game. I agree with the past two NC games and OSU. However had the Buckeyes beaten USC and Purdue they would have most assuredly been top 3. With the stumble against Nebraska I feel the Bucks would have jumped. We will never know because the above senerio did not occur. Alabama beat Texas in NC game. I do believe at the end of the year OSU is the 4th best team in Americal behind Bama, Texas, Florida .jmho

  I can understand what you're saying, but I don't think I can agree for a combination of three reasons.
  
  1. I think OSU would need to have a sizable advantage over any other undefeated team to get into the NC. There's just so much public perception against the Buckeyes that I can't see many human voters giving them the chance.
  
  2. Beating USC and Purdue wouldn't have ended up this huge boost in an "us vs. Texas" deal. Purdue was a lousy team with one win when they played them. USC wound up being a good team, but not a national player. I don't know if they wound up with a resume impressive enough to convince voters to put them ahead of Texas after the Nebraska game.
  
  3. Especially since they didn't win all their games impressively. Nebraska wasn't some chump. They were 9-3 or so and ranked around 15-17. OSU needed overtime to beat Iowa without their starting QB a handful of weeks previously. And in their final game, they seemed VERY conservative against Michigan...where they looked to get a lead and just hold it. If they were unbeaten at this point and beat Michigan, say, 44-7, AFTER dominating Iowa and their inexperienced QB like it looked like they would do for a good portion of that game, I would agree with you. But blowing a sizable lead and needing OT against Iowa and then playing it close-to-the-vest against Michigan didn't have us ending the season with that "they could crash the party" feeling.
  
  
  If you add the "win decisively every week" stipulation to the "undefeated" one, I can see myself agreeing with you.

  I agree with that logic. You are probably right.