Will Harbaugh ever beat Ohio State?

• sleeper

  

  No.
• Terry_Tate

  

  I think the biggest question regarding this is how soon does he bolt for the NFL? I think that's where he really wants to be. I'm going with yes, but that's assuming he'll be there in 2017 and beyond.
• GoChiefs

  

  Yes.
• Rotinaj

  

  Nope. Will probably go 0-47.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Harbaugh can land any NFL job he wants right now... why would he go to UM if he "wants to be in the NFL?" I just don't get this.
• thavoice

  ernest_t_bass;1690728 wrote:Harbaugh can land any NFL job he wants right now... why would he go to UM if he "wants to be in the NFL?" I just don't get this.

  Not like he can pick and choose what NFL team to go to.
  
  I imagine Michigan would be the only college job he would leave the NFL for.
  
  and yeah, he will beat OSU within the first 3 meetings. I would bet you sleeper, but I doubt the OC lasts that long...
• sleeper

  

  thavoice;1690730 wrote:Not like he can pick and choose what NFL team to go to.
  
  I imagine Michigan would be the only college job he would leave the NFL for.
  
  and yeah, he will beat OSU within the first 3 meetings. I would bet you sleeper, but I doubt the OC lasts that long...

  The only way I see Harbaugh coming within 4 TDs of Ohio State is if Urban Meyer leaves the program unexpectedly and takes his talents and his players talents to South Beach. Harbaugh is 3 years behind in recruiting and he will never be able to make that up.
• thavoice

  sleeper;1690735 wrote:The only way I see Harbaugh coming within 4 TDs of Ohio State is if Urban Meyer leaves the program unexpectedly and takes his talents and his players talents to South Beach. Harbaugh is 3 years behind in recruiting and he will never be able to make that up.

  OSU was coming off two bad seasons and losses to UM before tressel came in and he beat them the first year.
  
  
  and as good as OSU has been the last 3 seasons, and as bad as UM has been, the last three matchups were close, and well within the 4 TD's. This year was just 14 points and was much closer than that.
  
  I realize you are always full of shit inyour predictions but the numbers dont support your prediction
• Terry_Tate

  

  ernest_t_bass;1690728 wrote:Harbaugh can land any NFL job he wants right now... why would he go to UM if he "wants to be in the NFL?" I just don't get this.

  I think the only one he had any real shot at was Oakland and who the hell wants to coach there? Maybe I'm wrong and he's at Michigan for a decade or more, but I think based on how this played out it seems like he went back to Michigan because his people didn't get the sense he'd be wanted by any team not named Oakland. I'm sure he won't be there for just a year or anything like that, but I can't imagine he's done in the NFL. Just my opinion of course, could very well be wrong.
• sleeper

  

  thavoice;1690745 wrote:OSU was coming off two bad seasons and losses to UM before tressel came in and he beat them the first year.
  
  
  and as good as OSU has been the last 3 seasons, and as bad as UM has been, the last three matchups were close, and well within the 4 TD's. This year was just 14 points and was much closer than that.
  
  I realize you are always full of shit inyour predictions but the numbers dont support your prediction

  #1) Harbaugh is not Tressel. Tressel actually won something at the college level, including multiple championships while the best Harbaugh has done is leave Stanford with zero relevant wins and being fired from an NFL team. Harbaugh is 1/8 as good as the scum on the bottom of Jim Tressel's toilet bowl so please tame the comparison.
  
  #2) Urban Meyer is bringing in the best recruits OSU's ever had and winning with them on and off the field. Their defensive line is better than some NFL teams and is only going to get better as Urban will have all of his recruits on the team soon enough. If I'm Harbaugh, I'd look for the next opportunity in the NFL ASAP because he sure as shit isn't going to beat Meyer in the recruiting game nor on the field.
• thavoice

  Terry_Tate;1690746 wrote:I think the only one he had any real shot at was Oakland and who the hell wants to coach there? Maybe I'm wrong and he's at Michigan for a decade or more, but I think based on how this played out it seems like he went back to Michigan because his people didn't get the sense he'd be wanted by any team not named Oakland. I'm sure he won't be there for just a year or anything like that, but I can't imagine he's done in the NFL. Just my opinion of course, could very well be wrong.

  and if he and the front office hadnt bumped heads too often he would still be in SF.
  He seems smart so why go to Oakland? Right now that is a position for a new NFL head coach or a retread desperate for a job. Sort of like the Wash job. Coaches knew they would have to deal with Dan Snider meddling so what top tier coach so it went to an unproven Gruden!
• thavoice

  sleeper;1690749 wrote:#1) Harbaugh is not Tressel. Tressel actually won something at the college level, including multiple championships while the best Harbaugh has done is leave Stanford with zero relevant wins and being fired from an NFL team. Harbaugh is 1/8 as good as the scum on the bottom of Jim Tressel's toilet bowl so please tame the comparison.
  
  #2) Urban Meyer is bringing in the best recruits OSU's ever had and winning with them on and off the field. Their defensive line is better than some NFL teams and is only going to get better as Urban will have all of his recruits on the team soon enough. If I'm Harbaugh, I'd look for the next opportunity in the NFL ASAP because he sure as shit isn't going to beat Meyer in the recruiting game nor on the field.

  Tressel won at Youngstown state.
  Harbaugh has won at San Diego, Stanford, and San Fran.
  
  and dont forget...as good as OSU has been the last 3 seasons, and as bad as michigan has been, the games have been very close with this year getting a score late to pull away.
• sleeper

  

  thavoice;1690751 wrote:Tressel won at Youngstown state.
  Harbaugh has won at San Diego, Stanford, and San Fran.

  Oh did he? Please list the national championships or Super bowls that Harbaugh has won? Harbaugh won 1 BCS bowl game and never won a conference championship at Stanford and he never won anything at San Diego and he never won anything in the NFL(I guess NFC championship but come on he got absolutely shit stomped when it really counted). I mean even at Stanford, Harbaugh sucked ball sack except for 1 season when he had FREAKING ANDREW LUCK in the backfield. Harbaugh is all name recognition and no bite. This hire is similar to the Weis and Kelly hire for ND and we saw how well that turned out.
• thavoice

  sleeper;1690755 wrote:Oh did he? Please list the national championships or Super bowls that Harbaugh has won? Harbaugh won 1 BCS bowl game and never won a conference championship at Stanford and he never won anything at San Diego and he never won anything in the NFL(I guess NFC championship but come on he got absolutely shit stomped when it really counted). I mean even at Stanford, Harbaugh sucked ball sack except for 1 season when he had FREAKING ANDREW LUCK in the backfield. Harbaugh is all name recognition and no bite. This hire is similar to the Weis and Kelly hire for ND and we saw how well that turned out.

  At San Diego he won 22 of his last 24 games and won that league's title.
  Won at Stanford as you know.
  Went to the SB and a few NFC west titles.
  
  If you would take the collective OSU dick out of your mouth I think you would realize that Harbaugh's coaching resume was more impressive than Tressel's before he went to OSU.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  thavoice;1690762 wrote:At San Diego he won 22 of his last 24 games and won that league's title.
  Won at Stanford as you know.
  Went to the SB and a few NFC west titles.
  
  If you would take the collective OSU dick out of your mouth I think you would realize that Harbaugh's coaching resume was more impressive than Tressel's before he went to OSU.

  How many national titles/Super Bowls did he win? That's what sleeper is stating.
  
  And to an extent I somewhat agree with a few of his points, mainly the fact that Andrew Luck carried him to the record he has, evidence in the fact that Luck immediately turned the worst team in football to a playoff team. He's a good coach, but i'd be afraid if I'm a Michigan fan that a.) he wears out his welcome quickly, or B.) Bolts for a top notch NFL job.
• Pick6

  

  ernest_t_bass;1690728 wrote:Harbaugh can land any NFL job he wants right now... why would he go to UM if he "wants to be in the NFL?" I just don't get this.

  My exact line of thinking. There are a lot more franchises than the Raiders looking for a coach. He would have been #1 priority for most, if not all.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Pick6;1690773 wrote:My exact line of thinking. There are a lot more franchises than the Raiders looking for a coach. He would have been #1 priority for most, if not all.

  Oakland-Dumpster Fire
  Atlanta-Solid, but GM already in place.
  NYJ-Dumpster Fire
  Chicago- Solid, but Jay Cutler is locked in long term.
  
  I'm assuming he's biding his time waiting for an above average job to open up, much like when Gruden bolted from Oakland to TB, when TB got tired of Dungy only winning 9 games a year.
• thavoice

  HighRoller74;1690771 wrote:How many national titles/Super Bowls did he win? That's what sleeper is stating.
  
  And to an extent I somewhat agree with a few of his points, mainly the fact that Andrew Luck carried him to the record he has, evidence in the fact that Luck immediately turned the worst team in football to a playoff team. He's a good coach, but i'd be afraid if I'm a Michigan fan that a.) he wears out his welcome quickly, or B.) Bolts for a top notch NFL job.

  To answer your question, zero. Tressel won his at Youngstown state, not really on the level of stanford. PUt tressel in the NFL...he doesnt win anything.
  At San Diego he was 11-1 his last two seasons. That league they were in, the Pioneer, doesnt have any sort of post season tournament or anything. It is, or was, the same league Dayton Flyers played in.
  
  We all know sleeper is over the top on his predictions and I was just trying to set him straight a little bit. Michigan has been bad the last couple of years and were right there with OSU. That rivarly is huge and eventhough OSU was superior in talent over UM, it didnt necessarily show up on the scoreboard in blowouts.
• thavoice

  HighRoller74;1690777 wrote:Oakland-Dumpster Fire
  Atlanta-Solid
  NYJ-Dumpster Fire
  Chicago- Solid
  
  I'm assuming he's biding his time waiting for an above average job to open up, much like when Gruden bolted from Oakland to TB, when TB got tired of Dungy only winning 9 games a year.

  Yeah, stay away from Oakland and NYJ.
  Atlanta and Chicago......doable.
  I am not sure about the whole tampering and talking to coaches between college and the NFL. I know from NFL to NFL team it is a no-no. No doubt UM was all over this to get Harbaugh and was going to do whatever they could to get him.
  Also it is possible that the mutual parting of ways by SF and Harbaugh was done because he was going to michigan. I highly doubt there would have been this mutual parting if he seriously was going to another NFL team. SF would have tried to trade him as the rumors were earlier on, and what was rumored to be attempted last year in sending him to Cleveland.
  
  Yeah, many teams would have wanted him but I dont think it was going to be that easy
• salto

  

  sleeper;1690749 wrote:#1) Harbaugh is not Tressel. Tressel actually won something at the college level, including multiple championships while the best Harbaugh has done is leave Stanford with zero relevant wins and being fired from an NFL team. Harbaugh is 1/8 as good as the scum on the bottom of Jim Tressel's toilet bowl so please tame the comparison.
  .

  wow
• se-alum

  

  Terry_Tate;1690746 wrote:I think the only one he had any real shot at was Oakland and who the hell wants to coach there? Maybe I'm wrong and he's at Michigan for a decade or more, but I think based on how this played out it seems like he went back to Michigan because his people didn't get the sense he'd be wanted by any team not named Oakland. I'm sure he won't be there for just a year or anything like that, but I can't imagine he's done in the NFL. Just my opinion of course, could very well be wrong.

  I don't think he had a choice. I think there was only a "mutual split" if he went to Michigan. Otherwise, San Fran could've traded him to a team he didn't want to go to.
• GoChiefs

  

  se-alum;1690843 wrote:I think there was only a "mutual split" if he went to Michigan

  Correct. He had a clause in his contract for Michigan only.
• Tiernan

  Harbaugh would kick a Tressel coached team's ass every time they played you dumbass. The difference is that little lying bastard is back in the hell hole he crawled out of...NEO. Our Coach is Urban now and he will own Harby but it's gonna slit tougher than Brody Hake ever was.
• HitsRus

  

  I would expect a blind Wolverine to get a nut every once in a while.
• sleeper

  

  thavoice;1690762 wrote:At San Diego he won 22 of his last 24 games and won that league's title.
  Won at Stanford as you know.
  Went to the SB and a few NFC west titles.
  
  If you would take the collective OSU dick out of your mouth I think you would realize that Harbaugh's coaching resume was more impressive than Tressel's before he went to OSU.

  These are all nice BUT ZERO FUCKING CHAMPIONSHIPS. The dude had ONE, fucking ONE good season as a Stanford coach with Andrew Luck in the backfield.
  
  TL;DR: Harbaugh is an average coach and will get absolutely rekt in against Ohio State every year. Book it!