September 11, 2010 NCAA Football
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darbypitcher22
does an SEC team ever travel outside of SEC country to play an OOC game? VERY rarely does it happen... -
cats gone wild
Do you want me to start listing them?darbypitcher22 wrote: does an SEC team ever travel outside of SEC country to play an OOC game? VERY rarely does it happen... -
darbypitcher22
I mean, if you want to...
I know LSU and Georgia went to Arizona State....
Bama playing Va Tech in the Georgia Dome doesn't count.... -
jhay78
LSU went to Washington this year, other than that, Georgia at ASU and Okie St. the past 2 years.
Big-time OOC games involving SEC teams are few and far between. -
darbypitcher22
that's what I thought... doesn't happen often enough to prove that they'll play anybody anywhere...
and they won't do it without a return game most of the time. Then again, most BCS conference schools won't -
cats gone wildWell here is the last 3 years. I dont know the 2010 schedules, and I dont need to go beyond 07 to show my point. Bama and PSU play each other the next 2 years, and LSU plays WVU.
Here are the games that the SEC traveled out of their SEC states. You also got to figure, there are alot of good OOC teams in the SEC states.
2007
Tenn @Cal
Ole Miss @ Missouri
SC @ UNC
Miss. st @ WVU
2008
Ark @ Texas
Aub @ WVU
Georgia @ Arizona St
Ole Miss @ Wake forest
Vandy @ Wake Forest
Tenn @ UCLA
2009
Ark @ A&M
LSU @ Wash
Georgia @ Ok St
SC @ NC St
Vandy @ Army (sorry dont know what state Army is in)
Compare other conferences if you want to, that go out of their "conference states" to play teams. -
2quik4u
Notre Dame vs Navy in Ireland ??? 2012 -
DaBrowns41
LSU doesn't really lose much in terms of overall talent, whereas NC is going to lose some play makers on defense, like Carter and Austin. Despite LSU's lack of any sort of offense, they should be able to get a W in that game.september63 wrote: LSU vs. North Carolina (Georgia Dome)
Fla St. @ Okl. St.
Miami (FL) @ Ohio St.
Penn State @ Alabama
Pitt @ Utah
USF @ Florida
This is going to be a busy day of watching football!!
Florida State loses a bit on defense, and Oklahoma State loses their #1 WR, and their QB, along with a couple guys on D. OK State is in rebuilding next year, so FSU may be able to take it.
Even if OSU loses Heyward AND Gibson, they'll still be able to stop Jacory. He's simply not a good QB, contrary to what people say. He can sometimes make plays on his feet, but the kid can't read a defense, and he holds onto the ball longer than Terrelle Pryor (if that's possible). Either way, OSU's defense leads them to a Victory.
Penn State @ Alabama will be a VERY good game. PSU loses Clark, and potentially Royster on offense, and I believe 2 OL. They will lose Odrick, and most likely Bowman on defense, two of their biggest play makers, and Sean Lee. However, Bama loses McClain, Kareem Jackson, Mt. Cody, Deaderick, Arenas, etc. along with Mike Johnson on the OL and Colin Peek. Bama could really struggle next year. Yes, they have very talented recruits, and they won't miss a beat with Marcel Dareus filling in for Deaderick, not to mention Dont'a Hightower will be healthy again, but they will miss Cody, McClain, and their two starting corners. Bama should win this game, but it will be a very good game.
USF and Florida is another game that could be exciting simply because of all the talent Florida is losing on defense in Dunlap, Brandon "watch your eyes" Spikes, Major Wright, Joe Haden, etc. USF and BJ Daniels looks to be a powerful offense next season who should have a strong enough team to make a bowl game. However, even though Brantley is no Tebow, I think Florida will still win by 7+ points. -
Cleveland Buck
LSU vs. North Carolina (Georgia Dome)
LSU by 20+. Jefferson will have a good season next year and UNC doesn't have the players to match up with LSU.
Fla St. @ Okl. St.
Who cares? Both will lose at least 5 games next year.
Miami (FL) @ Ohio St.
If Heyward comes back and they play like they did in the Rose Bowl I like their chances. If they don't, I don't.
Penn State @ Alabama
I can't see Penn State winning in Tuscaloosa with a QB making his second start. Hopefully they can keep it close, but I doubt it.
Pitt @ Utah
Should be a good game. Utah takes it Pitt comes out uninspired against a mid major on the road. Pitt takes it if their D-line plays up to their potential and they run the ball well.
USF @ Florida
Florida along the lines of 41-10. Way too much talent for South Florida to hang. -
dtdtim
Army is in West Point, NY. I also do not count North Carolina as 'traveling out of SEC country'. North Carolina borders 2 SEC states and most of those schools are actually closer to the Universities of Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina than most other SEC schools.cats gone wild wrote: Well here is the last 3 years. I dont know the 2010 schedules, and I dont need to go beyond 07 to show my point. Bama and PSU play each other the next 2 years, and LSU plays WVU.
Here are the games that the SEC traveled out of their SEC states. You also got to figure, there are alot of good OOC teams in the SEC states.
2007
Tenn @Cal
Ole Miss @ Missouri
SC @ UNC
Miss. st @ WVU
2008
Ark @ Texas
Aub @ WVU
Georgia @ Arizona St
Ole Miss @ Wake forest
Vandy @ Wake Forest
Tenn @ UCLA
2009
Ark @ A&M
LSU @ Wash
Georgia @ Ok St
SC @ NC St
Vandy @ Army (sorry dont know what state Army is in)
Compare other conferences if you want to, that go out of their "conference states" to play teams.
The Big Ten and SEC both severely lack road trips outside of their conference states or bordering states. I believe the Big XII and Pac 10 travel A LOT more than both conferences, although the Big Ten does hold a slight advantage over the SEC. The numbers for both conferences are not great. -
cats gone wildLSU is losing alot more talent then what people think. And thanks for the Army answer.
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SQ_Crazies
Gameday will be at the OSU/Miami game. They MAY both be ranked in the top 5, although Miami's loss to Wisconsin might make them more of like a 7-10. -
darbypitcher22
I don't know how you can rank Miami in the preseason top 10 after they lost 4 games this year, and if they start outside the top 10 any more than #12 they won't move into the top 10 to even make it a top 10 matchup
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cats gone wildI thought a lot of OSU players are declaring for the draft? How are they going to be ranked high? Miami hasnt showed me anything in years.
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darbypitcher22
There are a lot of OSU guys that have checked their draft status with the NFL that are Juniors; the two biggest loses would be Heyward and Gibson, and I hope they both come back; if one of them comes back we'll be ok. but we're not going to lose 10 juniors to the draft
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the_system2quik4u wrote: Notre Dame vs Navy in Ireland ??? 2012
Yep they did it in the mid 90's too if I remember right. -
darbypitcher22
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I personally think that game makes no sense, but whatever. -
SQ_Crazies
OSU is definitely going to be ranked top 5. Are you serious? Basically the whole offense coming back. Same with the defense, although we may lose a few but we have great depth on D. Pryor leading the way. He played well and we beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl. I don't really see how you don't think they'd be top 5 next year. I think it's safe to assume that the offense will improve and OSU MIGHT have the best defense in the nation next year. We saw what they did to Oregon...cats gone wild wrote: I thought a lot of OSU players are declaring for the draft? How are they going to be ranked high? Miami hasnt showed me anything in years.
Miami will probably be top 10, had they beat Wisconsin I'd say they would be. But Miami is a big time program and the voters would love to see them back on top. I think the expectations for them next year are going to be pretty high so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them in the top 10. -
september63
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10 or 11 "declared" for the draft. They just put their name out there to see what NFL scouts think. Tressell reccommends they do this each year. None of them hire agent or usually stop going to classes. Id guess they might lose 3 out of those 11 early to the NFL.cats gone wild wrote: I thought a lot of OSU players are declaring for the draft? How are they going to be ranked high? Miami hasnt showed me anything in years. -
devil1197
They have filed paperwork but the only ones that truly may leave are Gibson, Heyward, and Chekwa. The first two have great reasons and Chekwa just thinks he can go pro lol.cats gone wild wrote: I thought a lot of OSU players are declaring for the draft? How are they going to be ranked high? Miami hasnt showed me anything in years. -
SQ_Crazies
The only thing I've heard is Gibson and Chekwa might go. Supposedly Heyward is staying. I'm sure we'll know more in the next few weeks.
The only certain loss is Coleman and I for one don't think that's as huge a loss as some do. I still think he is overrated. Good player, not a great player like he's pegged to be though. -
cats gone wild
Am I serious? Yeah, I was seriously wondering how they would be top 5, because I "thought" they were losing alot of players to draft. I didnt know, that most of them probably wouldnt go. And I dont pay attention to OSU's roster, so I wouldnt know what they return. Miami has a very tough schedule next year, and I dont see them being in the top 10 by the end of the year. Might start out high, but wont finish high, IMO.SQ_Crazies wrote:
OSU is definitely going to be ranked top 5. Are you serious? Basically the whole offense coming back. Same with the defense, although we may lose a few but we have great depth on D.cats gone wild wrote: I thought a lot of OSU players are declaring for the draft? How are they going to be ranked high? Miami hasnt showed me anything in years. -
darbypitcher22
Chekwa should not go. He can't cover for shit
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2quik4u
thats pretty sweetthe_system wrote:2quik4u wrote: Notre Dame vs Navy in Ireland ??? 2012
Yep they did it in the mid 90's too if I remember right. -
SQ_Crazies
Ok, well if you don't pay attention to OSU's roster then what business do you have talking about where they'll be ranked? And what does being top 10 by the end of the year have to do with anything? You aren't following this conversation very well--I said originally that Gameday will most likely be at the OSU/Miami game because one (maybe both) will be preseason top 5 and Miami will likely be at least top 10. The game is week 2, not week 11, so where they rank at the end of the season really doesn't mean shit in this discussion.cats gone wild wrote:
Am I serious? Yeah, I was seriously wondering how they would be top 5, because I "thought" they were losing alot of players to draft. I didnt know, that most of them probably wouldnt go. And I dont pay attention to OSU's roster, so I wouldnt know what they return. Miami has a very tough schedule next year, and I dont see them being in the top 10 by the end of the year. Might start out high, but wont finish high, IMO.SQ_Crazies wrote:
OSU is definitely going to be ranked top 5. Are you serious? Basically the whole offense coming back. Same with the defense, although we may lose a few but we have great depth on D.cats gone wild wrote: I thought a lot of OSU players are declaring for the draft? How are they going to be ranked high? Miami hasnt showed me anything in years.