Polls - September 8...Updated Polls

• Fly4Fun

  

  I'm not buying a 1st time head coach going undefeated so I'm not too worried about Oregon. Hopefully I don't have to eat crow!
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lol STFU tk
• Tiernan

  Bucks win em all and they are in - nobody is keeping a 25 - 0 team put of the NCG. Winning will take care of itself. But one loss and its over even if other teams have one loss, that is when our schedule will bite us in the balls.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Tiernan;1497960 wrote:Bucks win em all and they are in - nobody is keeping a 25 - 0 team put of the NCG. Winning will take care of itself. But one loss and its over even if other teams have one loss, that is when our schedule will bite us in the balls.

  If Oregon or Stanford is 13-0, they are jumping tOSU.
• tk421

  

  Agreed. OSU better hope they are the only one undefeated or 1 other. 3 teams undefeated and the Buckeyes may get left out. I think we can pretty much agree that the SEC conference champion is going to be 1 BCS championship team, the other is up to OSU and the PAC- 12.
• Fly4Fun

  

  Now way does a BCS team on a 25 game winning streak get left out of the NCG. It just wouldn't happen.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Fly4Fun;1497972 wrote:Now way does a BCS team on a 25 game winning streak get left out of the NCG. It just wouldn't happen.

  With OSUs schedule it can....
  
  It's a joke of a schedule.
• Fly4Fun

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1497976 wrote:With OSUs schedule it can....
  
  It's a joke of a schedule.

  Neither Oregon's nor Stanford's are much better. I remember when the preseason polls came out and this argument was going on I pulled up a few different projected SoS's and they had Oregon and OSU within 6 slots of each other on three different sites.
  
  Oregon State being one of the ranked team's on both of Stanford's and Oregon's schedule lose to a FCS team really doesn't help their cause either from those preseason SoS projections.
• carmen

  Fly4Fun;1497972 wrote:Now way does a BCS team on a 25 game winning streak get left out of the NCG. It just wouldn't happen.

  If there are 2 or 3 teams besides OSU that are undefeated, OSU will be left out If Bama/A&M/LSU go undefeated, they are guaranteed to get in. If Clemson or Oregon/Stanford go undefeated, they are in over OSU. Louisville is the only one who wouldnt be over OSU.
• Tiernan

  You dooms dayers make me chuckle. Pollsters and computers will make sure a BCS team on a 25 game win streak coached by Urban Meyer is bonafide lock city. Oregon won't be undefeated anyway so it may not be an issue. I'm not sure OSU is gonna be undefeated either for that matter. The Defense will have to make improvements continuously thru the season to avoid a stumble.
• vball10set

  ptown_trojans_1;1497967 wrote:If Oregon or Stanford is 13-0, they are jumping tOSU.

  
  You are wrong.
• Pick6

  

  Heard OSU would currently be 7th in BCS rankings..uhh
• Fly4Fun

  

  Pick6;1498100 wrote:Heard OSU would currently be 7th in BCS rankings..uhh

  That's why they don't release the official BCS rankings right away, because the way some of the polls work (computers) things would just be screwy.
• sherm03

  

  Fab1b;1497307 wrote:At the end of the day a W is a W, the look of a W doesn't change if its 21-20 or 42-7, still looks like a W. I certainly remember the buckeyes not blowing anyone out mostly on route to the 02 title. Doesn't matter how you win, just win. Style points are stupid! Style doesn't win.

  Style points have to be considered because it's considered when you lose. If you lose by 1, or if you lose by 50, it still looks like a L. But they are two very different losses.
  
  Like it or not, style points play a big part...as they should.
• Tiernan

  Any loss...1 point or 50 will kill the Bucks chances but if they continue to win they will get in.
• pmoney25

  

  If Clemson were to go undefeated they would jump OSU. Georgia, South Carolina and Florida State victories would be impossible to overlook vs what the Buckeyes play. I think they are around 5th SOS right now. No way they don't get in if they go undefeated unless those three teams just tank the season.
• Fly4Fun

  

  pmoney25;1499060 wrote:If Clemson were to go undefeated they would jump OSU. Georgia, South Carolina and Florida State victories would be impossible to overlook vs what the Buckeyes play. I think they are around 5th SOS right now. No way they don't get in if they go undefeated unless those three teams just tank the season.

  OSU would have wins over @ Northwestern (not a traditional power, but good this year by many accounts), @ Michigan and home v. Wisconsin. Pretty comparable as far as each having three ranked teams.
  
  But then again, both teams have plenty of bad teams on the schedule.
  
  Clemson just got done with the mighty South Carolina St., and they still have games against the likes of Citadel, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc. And OSU has already played a couple of their "bad" games in San Diego St. and Buffalo, but still have Florida A&M, Cal, Indiana (although some believe Indiana won't be terrible this year, I'll believe that once they find a defense).
  
  Anyways, it's awfully early to predict who will have a tougher schedule to say one team's is by far and away tougher than another when on paper they are similar (3 ranked teams) with some mediocre teams and some bad teams.
  
  Tiernan has it right though (not often said), bu the Buckeyes can't afford to lose a game and going undefeated is a long way off.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Don't forget the big ten conf champ game
• pmoney25

  

  I agree it's too early to predict but if at the end of the year Clemson remains a 5 in SOS , it will not be up for debate. On paper FSU, South Carolina and Georgia wins are more impressive than Michigan, Northwestern and Wisconsin. Admittingly, Clemson will probably blow a game or two anyway.
  
  Other than that I do think OSU gets in over Oregon/Stanford and takes on the SEC winner in the title game.
• Fly4Fun

  

  SportsAndLady;1499077 wrote:Don't forget the big ten conf champ game

  I was leaving that out as the ACC likewise has a championship game.
• Fly4Fun

  

  pmoney25;1499080 wrote:I agree it's too early to predict but if at the end of the year Clemson remains a 5 in SOS , it will not be up for debate. On paper FSU, South Carolina and Georgia wins are more impressive than Michigan, Northwestern and Wisconsin. Admittingly, Clemson will probably blow a game or two anyway.
  
  Other than that I do think OSU gets in over Oregon/Stanford and takes on the SEC winner in the title game.

  I'm curious, where is it you are seeing their current schedule is a 5? If it was for games played up to this point I could believe it as they have played 2 teams and one was a great opponent. But I can't look at that schedule overall and say that's most likely the 5th toughest schedule in the FBS.
• pmoney25

  

  Fly4Fun;1499084 wrote:I'm curious, where is it you are seeing their current schedule is a 5? If it was for games played up to this point I could believe it as they have played 2 teams and one was a great opponent. But I can't look at that schedule overall and say that's most likely the 5th toughest schedule in the FBS.

  So after reviewing the site I found that on, it is who they have played to date so my fault on that. But back to my original point, FSU, Georgia and South Carolina are better wins than Wisconsin, Michigan and Northwestern. Look, I want OSU in just as bad as anyone but I can't say with a straight face that Clemsons best wins would be equal to OSU's. Again this is all hypothetical because any of those teams could tank the season and make the point moot. If all those teams have the seasons they are projected too, two wins over top ranked SEC teams and then throw in FSU will be too much for OSU to overcome with the voters and the computers also.
  
  For what it's worth, I think OSU would beat Clemson.
• carmen

  Fly4Fun;1499069 wrote:OSU would have wins over @ Northwestern (not a traditional power, but good this year by many accounts), @ Michigan and home v. Wisconsin. Pretty comparable as far as each having three ranked teams.
  
  But then again, both teams have plenty of bad teams on the schedule.
  
  Clemson just got done with the mighty South Carolina St., and they still have games against the likes of Citadel, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc. And OSU has already played a couple of their "bad" games in San Diego St. and Buffalo, but still have Florida A&M, Cal, Indiana (although some believe Indiana won't be terrible this year, I'll believe that once they find a defense).
  
  Anyways, it's awfully early to predict who will have a tougher schedule to say one team's is by far and away tougher than another when on paper they are similar (3 ranked teams) with some mediocre teams and some bad teams.
  
  Tiernan has it right though (not often said), bu the Buckeyes can't afford to lose a game and going undefeated is a long way off.

  Wins over 3 teams near or in the top 10 is much better than wins over 3 teams ranked in the teens or 20's
  

  pmoney25;1499101 wrote:
  For what it's worth, I think OSU would beat Clemson.

  Clemson would drop 40+ on OSU.
• vball10set

  ^^^lol
• WebFire

  vball10set;1499285 wrote:^^^lol

  Actually being serious here...if Buffalo can score 20, why is it not possible for Clemson to score 40? Not saying they would, but it's not impossible.