Braxton Miller 2013 Heisman Favorite

• Tiernan

  The 2013 Heisman Watch is officially on as OSU Soph QB, Braxton Miller firmly established himself as the "Frontrunner" for next year's award by finishing fifth in last night's voting.
  
  Miller's victory will give the Buckeyes 8 all-time Heisman winners making them the college team with the most Heisman wins ever.
  
  There is a fairly good chance Miller could win back-to-back Heismans in 2014 making OSU the only school with dual winners because as we all know only one man on the planet uses Heisman trophies as bookends and that man is the great Archie Griffin, from where? Why Theee Ohio State University of course.
  
  Nobody will ever hear of Johnny Man-zier again...that is all.
• Crimson streak

  

  I could see Boyd winning it next year actually. He's gonna be my dark horse
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Lol. Gawd, cc is stoopid
• ernest_t_bass

  

  ccrunner609;1339075 wrote:I was posting about Manzell and how weak he is as a heisman winner, with that.......someone else will win next year

  He had a better season that two previous Heisman winners (Tebow and Newton), and broke their records.
• Speedofsand

  

  If Miller don't win, its because he is black.
• Midstate01

  

  Speedofsand;1339115 wrote:If Miller don't win, its because he is black.

  *doesn't
  *it's
  *he's
• Speedofsand

  

  *when on Ohio internet, speak same language.
• WebFire

  If Ball played in the SEC he would have been in New York.
• Tiernan

  WebFire;1339201 wrote:If Ball played in the SEC he would have been in New York.

  If Ball played at ND he would have won it!
  
  ...and he wouldn't have needed the stats to earn it.
• Midstate01

  

  Speedofsand;1339163 wrote:*when on Ohio internet, speak same language.

  
  *not on Ohio Internet.
• vball10set

  WebFire;1339201 wrote:If Ball played in the SEC he would have been in New York.

  Wrong, because he wouldn't have had the kind of season, with the stats, that he had this year in the B1G if he played in the SEC.
• se-alum

  

  Braxton has a LONG way to go to sniff a Heisman win. His decision making just isn't there yet, not saying he won't improve over the offseason. He needs to learn how to read a defense pre-snap. There were many times this year he misread the DE and kept it when he should not have and the other way around. I never thought he was a legitimate contender this year, and he has a long way to go to get there next year.
• Trueblue23

  

  I think the guy who won it is the favorite by default.
• GoChiefs

  

  Trueblue23;1339268 wrote:I think the guy who won it is the favorite by default.

  
  Don't speak logic.
• vball10set

  Trueblue23;1339268 wrote:I think the guy who won it is the favorite by default.

  GoChiefs;1339271 wrote:Don't speak logic.

  Consider the OP, then rethink logic
• WebFire

  vball10set;1339265 wrote:Wrong, because he wouldn't have had the kind of season, with the stats, that he had this year in the B1G if he played in the SEC.

  Does that apply to Braxton then?
• Coach_08

  Braxton better get better at throwing the ball if you want him to win the Heisman next year. Plus being the favorite at the start of the year is almost a curse. Look at the last three winners Cam, RGIII and Manzel. None of them were even considered when the season started.
• vball10set

  WebFire;1339274 wrote:Does that apply to Braxton then?

  You made the statement about Ball, so that's what I addressed. Do you concur?
• ksig489

  Speedofsand;1339115 wrote:If Miller don't win, its because he is black.

  Because the Heisman clearly has a history of not awarding black players.
• mtp2013

  

  OSU fans are delusional. LOL
• WebFire

  vball10set;1339280 wrote:You made the statement about Ball, so that's what I addressed. Do you concur?

  I don't know. Ball is pretty good. I think he could have done well in the SEC. But you were bashing the strength of the B1G, were you not? If so,then that same ideal applies to Braxton. Do you concur?
• vball10set

  WebFire;1339291 wrote:I don't know. Ball is pretty good. I think he could have done well in the SEC. But you were bashing the strength of the B1G, were you not? If so,then that same ideal applies to Braxton. Do you concur?

  Definitely. I think the B1G will be (hopefully) better next year, so we'll be able to get a better gauge on how good Braxton is. That, and he'll have another year under Urban's tutelage.
• WebFire

  vball10set;1339298 wrote:Definitely. I think the B1G will be (hopefully) better next year, so we'll be able to get a better gauge on how good Braxton is. That, and he'll have another year under Urban's tutelage.

  Do you think Ball would not have been successful in the SEC?
• Rotinaj

  

  Reading posts from Tiernan and CC in th same thread almost made my head explode.
• vball10set

  WebFire;1339302 wrote:Do you think Ball would not have been successful in the SEC?

  Not as successful, no. I think the rush defenses are better in the SEC than in the B1G.