Ryan Shazier
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End of LineAfter the rough start, holy hell did he have a phenomenal year. Good chance he'll be a 1st Team AA, 1st Team B1G, and possibly B1G Defensive POTY if Simon doesn't get it.
-115 Tackles (70 solo, 45 assisted)
-17 TFL
-5 Sacks
-1 INT 1 TD
-10 PBU
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Pick6Best in the nation.
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slingshot4everI'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
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Pick6
That's all T'eo has him beat in.slingshot4ever;1329186 wrote:I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT -
Crimson streakslingshot4ever;1329186 wrote:I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
And they also play different positions in different schemes. I would expect them not to match up. Kind of pointless to compare them really. A better comparison to shazier would be Jarvis jones -
Pick6He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
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sleeperHe's the best LB in the country and its not even close.
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Crimson streakPick6;1329195 wrote:He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
He might, I think jones missed 2 games though -
vball10setGreat linebacker on a good defense, he'll be a frontrunner for next year's Lombardi Award.
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karen lotzPick6;1329195 wrote:He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
Jones
71 tackles
19.5 TFL
10.5 sacks
1 INT
2 PBU
6 forced fumbles
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Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.karen lotz;1329205 wrote:Jones
71 tackles
19.5 TFL
10.5 sacks
1 INT
2 PBU
6 forced fumbles
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karen lotzEnd of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
I actually didn't compare anyone. Pick said he thought Shazier had better numbers in every category. Do you have trouble with reading? -
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I misread, my mistake. No need to act like a typical ND douche.karen lotz;1329212 wrote:I actually didn't compare anyone. Pick said he thought Shazier had better numbers in every category. Do you have trouble with reading? -
Crimson streakEnd of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
Georgia likes to run a lot of 4 man fronts though also. But jones a lot of the time is that speed pass rusher. I guess I shouldn't have chosen jones but he was the closest I could think of in terms of their responsibilities -
karen lotz
hmmmmm...End of Line;1329214 wrote:I misread, my mistake. No need to act like a typical ND douche.
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB. -
killer_ewokI don't like to get into these OSU-ND pissing matches but if we're looking at things just based on stats...Taylor Martinez should have been every bit the Heisman candidate that Braxton Miller was if not moreso.
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sleeper
And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?killer_ewok;1329231 wrote:I don't like to get into these OSU-ND pissing matches but if we're looking at things just based on stats...Taylor Martinez should have been every bit the Heisman candidate that Braxton Miller was if not moreso. -
karen lotzsleeper;1329232 wrote:And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?
Texas A&M hasn't lost? -
killer_ewoksleeper;1329232 wrote:And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?
Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know. -
sleeper
Here's a stat for you; Only 1 defensive player has won the Heisman in its history. Do you really think Te'o is better than Suh or Honey Badger? They didn't win it, Te'o won't win it, and ND will be 0-4 in BCS bowls come January. Fact.killer_ewok;1329234 wrote:Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know. -
sleeper
This is about Shazier; the best LB in the country.karen lotz;1329233 wrote:Texas A&M hasn't lost? -
killer_ewoksleeper;1329236 wrote:Here's a stat for you; Only 1 defensive player has won the Heisman in its history. Do you really think Te'o is better than Suh or Honey Badger? They didn't win it, Te'o won't win it, and ND will be 0-4 in BCS bowls come January. Fact.
Not fact at this point, just your opinion and that is a fact. Also, Te'o and the other Heisman candidates aren't up against Suh and Honey Badger as they were not college football players this season so that is neither here nor there. -
Tiger2003
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killer_ewokI'll say this....Shazier is a very good player. I just don't think he's as good as Te'o. If you are using stats to say that he is...then that works both ways and Taylor Martinez deserves just as much Heisman hype as Braxton Miller.
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Tiger2003Who said Shazier should or is getting Heisman hype?