OSU/Florida fumble call. Was it right?

• thavoice

  It is my contention that although Florida did fumble the ball that OSU should not have been awarded the ball as no one recovered it during the live action after the play.
  
  The rules were changed so that in a case like that QB fumble that a team can recover the ball after the whistle when it comes in the normal flow, live action of the play.
  
  The whistle blew, and an OSU guy tried to get it but failed, and by the time the second OSU guy got it everyone had stopped playing because of the whistle.
  
  Announcers thought it was wrong, as did many people that I have listened to.
  
  
  I was rooting for OSU so it isnt like I have sour grapes. I try to be rational. For instance, the Herron fumble. I think they got the call right because there was no evidence to overturn it.
  
  
  I know it was probably discussed in the other thread but I dont wanna wade through all the BS.
• Skyhook79

  

  You are right, Florida ,was screwed, they should have won.
• FatHobbit

  

  I don't know the rule but it seems odd to me to just give the ball to the other team when nobody actually recovered it.
• thavoice

  fathobbit...the rule basically states that on a play like that, even after the whistle is blown, if there is a clear and immediate fumble recovery during normal live action then they can award the ball to the other team.
• vball10set

  I voted OSU because I'm wearing my scarlet & gray shades this morning
• WebFire

  vball10set;1039637 wrote:I voted OSU because I'm wearing my scarlet & gray shades this morning

  :thumbup:
  
  In all seriousness I was shocked they gave the ball to OSU. It did seem to be a fumble, but with no immediate, or even close to immediate, recovery, they should't have given the ball to OSU.
• FatHobbit

  

  thavoice;1039634 wrote:fathobbit...the rule basically states that on a play like that, even after the whistle is blown, if there is a clear and immediate fumble recovery during normal live action then they can award the ball to the other team.

  I think if the whistle had not been blown that OSU would have recovered, but did anyone actually pick up the ball? I think they fumbled around with it, but never actually got it and then quit playing when the whistle blew.
• thavoice

  WebFire;1039651 wrote::thumbup:
  
  In all seriousness I was shocked they gave the ball to OSU. It did seem to be a fumble, but with no immediate, or even close to immediate, recovery, they should't have given the ball to OSU.

  No doubt it was a fumble, and if that first guy had recoverd it from OSU then yeah, that is a legit call, but it wasnt recovered immediately, everyone was pretty much stopped after the whistle and after the OSU player muffed it. I was hoping OSU would win, but man that was a horrid call that did go OSU's way.
• thavoice

  FatHobbit;1039653 wrote:I think if the whistle had not been blown that OSU would have recovered, but did anyone actually pick up the ball? I think they fumbled around with it, but never actually got it and then quit playing when the whistle blew.

  IT was well after the play when an OSU guy picked it up. First OSU fumbled it around and the ball laid on the ground. Everyone pretty much stopped, the Fla QB was laying there about 3 feet away at the ball and didnt attempt it because the whistle had been blowing for a bit.
• georgemc80

  Should have been Florida's ball at the spot of the original fumble.
• Tiernan

  This is maybe the all-time dumbest "Who Gives a Shit Now?" thread in the history of "Who Gives a Shit Now?" threads.
• stroups

  

  I thought they got both fumble calls wrong and I also thought they should of reviewed Florida's td catch. Just a terrible job by the officials on that game imo.
• ytownfootball

  

  The officials fucked it up by blowing the whistle too early anyway so whatever happens after that is also going to be fucked up and irrelevant.
• Sonofanump

  Post the video and I'll give an answer. I've watched so much football over the last five months, I really do not remember this play.
• Sonofanump

  ytownfootball;1039674 wrote:The officials ****ed it up by blowing the whistle too early anyway so whatever happens after that is also going to be ****ed up and irrelevant.

  12.3.3.a states otherwise.
• jhay78

  

  ytownfootball;1039674 wrote:The officials ****ed it up by blowing the whistle too early anyway so whatever happens after that is also going to be ****ed up and irrelevant.

  This. If they don't blow the whistle OSU advances that fumble a long ways.
• WebFire

  jhay78;1039799 wrote:This. If they don't blow the whistle OSU advances that fumble a long ways.

  I don't think so. They may not have even recovered it. The ball bounced off the knee of the first OSU defender, then the whistle blew. The Florida QB was within feet of the ball laying on the ground, and a Florida OL was with a step or 2. It would have been a scrum for the ball.
• bases_loaded

  

  An OSU player ended up with the ball.
• WebFire

  bases_loaded;1039865 wrote:An OSU player ended up with the ball.

  Uh...ya. After the whistle blew and everyone had clearly quit on the play.
• Sonofanump

  12.3.3.a might apply here from the descriptions.
• superman

  Poorly officiated game all around. That fumble should havestayed with Florida.
• thavoice

  OSU might have ended up with it, who knows. We have all seen fumble plays get pretty nuts when people are going after the ball. After the OSU guy initially didnt get it (but if he had then that is a good call) everyone was stopped. If the whistle was not blown you woulda had the QB, the OL and more defensive guys going after the ball. WHO knows where it woulda have ended up.
• vball10set

  thavoice;1040192 wrote:OSU might have ended up with it, who knows. We have all seen fumble plays get pretty nuts when people are going after the ball. After the OSU guy initially didnt get it (but if he had then that is a good call) everyone was stopped. If the whistle was not blown you woulda had the QB, the OL and more defensive guys going after the ball. WHO knows where it woulda have ended up.

  I believe that it was Shazier, and it was definitely a scoop and score if he holds on to it.
• WebFire

  vball10set;1040197 wrote:I believe that it was Shazier, and it was definitely a scoop and score if he holds on to it.

  Yeah if he grabbed it initially it was probably 6.
• Heretic

  

  vball10set;1040197 wrote:I believe that it was Shazier, and it was definitely a scoop and score if he holds on to it.

  Yeah. While watching the game, my group of friends thought he was trying too hard for the scoop-n-score and didn't quite get the "scoop" part of it down. I don't think any of us really came up with a reason why the Bucks were given the ball, since no one on the team had possession until well after the whistle had blown. We didn't complain, but had no clue as to why it happened like that.