Big Ten Bowl Thread
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sleeper
Agreed. Alabama loves the outcome. They didn't have to do anything and they got a free pass into the NCG.sportswizuhrd;1003752 wrote:100% agreed. Punishing teams after giving them a reward. For now on, **** it, refuse to play it and secure your spot in the BCS. -
KnightRyder
when OSU is playing in the nobody gives a shyt bcs bowl its hardly irrelevantsleeper;1002539 wrote:Who cares about irrelevant bowl games? There's fraud occurring in the one that matters and this is what you are mad about? -
KnightRyder
like # 1 ohio state vs #2 florida?Scarlet_Buckeye;1002514 wrote:This is nothing new. The B1G always plays up. And did I mention we are usually playing in other teams' own backyards? -
sleeper
I suppose they could always be playing ND in a the no one will watch bowl.KnightRyder;1003758 wrote:when OSU is playing in the nobody gives a shyt bcs bowl its hardly irrelevant -
KnightRyder
actually that is the bowl ohio state is playing insleeper;1003763 wrote:I suppose they could always be playing ND in a the no one will watch bowl. -
Tiger2003
WebFire;1002531 wrote:You are only using their head-to-head for that. Bottom line is MSU lost 3 games. I still don't think a team can complain about being left out after losing 3 games.
No I'm not using head to head as the only argument. MSU won their division. -
0311sdpIt doesn't make sense unless you look at money, Michigan is a better draw than Michigan State. Michigan also got lucky and is playing a team (Virginia Tech) that they could beat. You could make a strong arguement that the ACC did not deserve 2 teams in the BCS. I don't know how VT, and Michigan got in and Boise State did not. You could make a case for K-State or TCU also, but every year some questionable teams get in while seemingly more deserving teams go to lesser Bowls. Houston I don't feel sorry for, they only had to win against Southern Miss. (who for some unknown reason think because they beat a fraudulant Houston team deserved a BCS bid) to get in (and get spanked) I believe that Boise got the biggest snub, they could play with anyone in the country (beat VT and Georgia) I know they lost to TCU (not a bad loss) but everyone else (but LSU also lost), most to lesser opponents than TCU.
The B1G goes 6-4 in their Bowl games winners-Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, Purdue, and Illinois
Losers-Wisconsin, Nebraska, Northwestern, and Iowa -
Manhattan Buckeye
Being one of the programs to play in Jacksonville > being in the secondary bowl in Orlando.KnightRyder;1003786 wrote:actually that is the bowl ohio state is playing in -
WebFire
So if a team is say, #5 in the poll, but doesn't play it's conference championship, it should automatically be disqualified?Tobias Fünke;1003705 wrote:It's just retarded then. To knock a team for playing an additional game. Michigan didn't even get the chance to play in that game, they weren't good enough.
The system = horseshit. Neither Michigan or Virginia Tech are good enough to be in BCS bowl games. -
WebFire
So winning your DIVISION now means you deserve BCS?Tiger2003;1003790 wrote:No I'm not using head to head as the only argument. MSU won their division.
Do you think Georgia should have a BCS spot, but not Alabama or Arkansas.
Too many blanket and general statements made on this board. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Sorry. I meant to put Michigan but had Va Tech on the brain [since that's who Michigan is playing].Falcons53;1003024 wrote:Did you just add Va Tech to the Big 10? I am confused... -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Okay Ditka. Happens every year, but let's not talk about it.Rotinaj;1003036 wrote:Trying 2 play the B1G as such underdogs in their games is a joke and it just makes you sound dumb. Just stop. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Hear, hear.Tobias Fünke;1003705 wrote:It's just retarded then. To knock a team for playing an additional game. Michigan didn't even get the chance to play in that game, they weren't good enough.
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WebFire
So you agree that Alabama and Arkansas should not be in BCS games?Scarlet_Buckeye;1003924 wrote:Hear, hear. -
sleeper
Ohio State is playing in the Gator Bowl, enjoy!KnightRyder;1003786 wrote:actually that is the bowl ohio state is playing in -
vball10setNo matter how you try and spin it, tsun SHOULD NOT be in a BCS bowl. They, similar to OSU in '07, are in because of the $$$ they'll generate by being there--period.
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enigmaax
Bowl games are and have always been glorified exhibitions. There's no reason to make the selection about anything other than money. When you are putting up $17 mil (or whatever), you damn sure are going to try and put together the best possible return on the investment.vball10set;1003954 wrote:No matter how you try and spin it, tsun SHOULD NOT be in a BCS bowl. They, similar to OSU in '07, are in because of the $$$ they'll generate by being there--period. -
vball10set
:thumbup:enigmaax;1003960 wrote:Bowl games are and have always been glorified exhibitions. There's no reason to make the selection about anything other than money. When you are putting up $17 mil (or whatever), you damn sure are going to try and put together the best possible return on the investment.
I agree, and I should have said that they DO NOT DESERVE to be there, not should not. -
goosebumps
OSU didn't deserve to be in the National title game in 07??? I'm sure you meant to put a different year there.vball10set;1003954 wrote:No matter how you try and spin it, tsun SHOULD NOT be in a BCS bowl. They, similar to OSU in '07, are in because of the $$$ they'll generate by being there--period. -
vball10set
I meant for the '07 season (which was actually played on 1/7/08) vs. LSUgoosebumps;1003963 wrote:OSU didn't deserve to be in the National title game in 07??? I'm sure you meant to put a different year there. -
Tiger2003
No Webfire all I said is MSU should be in over Michigan. Boise St, Arkansas, South Carolina and Kansas St should be in a BCS Bowl over Michigan and MSU. What the hell do we have rankings for? I really don't believe the 13th ranked team in the BCS should be in a BCS game when they didnt even win their Division or Conf and when teams ranked above them were left out.
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WebFire
Then what you want is the top 10 go to BCS bowl games, end of story. I don't necessarily disagree.Tiger2003;1003996 wrote:No Webfire all I said is MSU should be in over Michigan. Boise St, Arkansas, South Carolina and Kansas St should be in a BCS Bowl over Michigan and MSU. What the hell do we have rankings for? I really don't believe the 13th ranked team in the BCS should be in a BCS game when they didnt even win their Division or Conf and when teams ranked above them were left out.
But back to your argument considering the way it is. Arkansas did not play for their conference title and finished with the same record as Michigan. So really you just don't want Michigan in. -
KnightRyder
nothin like watching two .500 teams battling it outsleeper;1003937 wrote:Ohio State is playing in the Gator Bowl, enjoy! -
vball10set
Webbie, I don't know if you necessarily want to use Arkansas as an example, since their two losses were to #1 LSU and #2 Alabama, whereas tsun's were to #17 MSU and unranked Iowa.WebFire;1004037 wrote: But back to your argument considering the way it is. Arkansas did not play for their conference title and finished with the same record as Michigan. So really you just don't want Michigan in. -
WebFire
Oh, you mean we factor in losses now? That's my point. You can't use his reasoning, which is Michigan did not play for the conference championship. Michigan is not the only one.vball10set;1004229 wrote:Webbie, I don't know if you necessarily want to use Arkansas as an example, since their two losses were to #1 LSU and #2 Alabama, whereas tsun's were to #17 MSU and unranked Iowa.