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From ESPN about ND and Stoops

  • athlete37
    The things that ESPN said Stoops wanted. ND only gave in for number 4 apparently:
    1. 2 academic exemptions per year over 4 years. ND said nope.
    2. A player eating area so that the coaches can have better control of player diets. ND said no they will eat with everyone else.
    3. Stoops wanted to handle all disciplinary issues with players unless it involves a crime. ND said no.
    4. Stoops wanted a few JUCO's to be admitted. ND said fine as long as they meet the academic requirements of all students.
  • darbypitcher22
    Kudos to ND for not bending on things they think are important, although they could have bent the rules for #2.... not sure that's a HUGE deal.
  • jpake1
    I'm still waiting for that Stoops announcement...
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Not that I don't believe you, but have a link?

    I have some friends of my own who are furious at me as well. :)
  • athlete37
    ND prides itself on making the athletes a normal part of the student body and wants them to be integrated in with the rest of the community-like campus, that's why I'd say they didn't bend on that one. I wouldn't have cared personally though, but I guess they don't want to create an attitude that the athletes are better than the rest of the student body
  • sleeper
    I don't understand why you wouldn't give into #2.

    Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
  • athlete37
    Also, the following is on the front of the NDNation website: Brian Kelly will be the next head coach at Notre Dame. Kelly informed his current team that he was leaving for the Irish Thursday night. Notre Dame first targeted Bob Stoops, but despite fast progress and interest on both sides, negotiations fell apart late last week. We will share what we can about the process next week. Kelly will not coach the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl against Florida. A formal announcement is expected tomorrow.
  • osu99
    sleeper wrote: I don't understand why you wouldn't give into #2.

    Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
    my guess is a couple fellas who don't quite make the grade at ND.
  • killer_ewok
    Those ND-Oklahoma games coming up in a couple years should be interesting.....
  • athlete37
    I would imagine a lot of boos
  • dlazz
    sleeper wrote: Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
    They probably would turn their head of some moron with a 14 on his ACT wants to play football.
  • ghosthunter
    I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
  • newarkcatholicfan
    How can this be when in another post someone posted that the A.D. from Notre Dame said they had not talked to anyone but Coach Kelly about this job?
  • steel_curtain
    Someone bright up a good point on Irish illustrated. Say they made 85 exemptions, their whole footbal team basically. That is less than 1 percent of the student body. Obviously they wouldn't need that many expemtions, but just some food for thought.
  • Sonofanump
    sleeper wrote:Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
    Think T.J. Duckett.
  • SQ_Crazies
    ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
    You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Sonofanump wrote:
    sleeper wrote:Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
    Think T.J. Duckett.
    Think Terrelle Pryor lol.
  • ghosthunter
    Sonofanump wrote:
    sleeper wrote:Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
    Think T.J. Duckett.
    Think Freddie Lenix from Glenville, class of maybe '03? Tons of talent, but never made it onto the field for the buckeyes. Couldn't handle the academics, so he decided on the JUCO route for 1-2 years, then possibly come back. JUCO didn't work either.

    On another thread I posted how a freshman @ ND is expected to walk into a college level calculus class. There are no high school calc refresher courses @ ND which is what a academic exception individual would require.
  • ghosthunter
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
    You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
    You're very correct. However if BK can return to a competetive level, touchdown Jesus will have a touchdown Kelly to converse with on those cold windy South Bend days.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Still doesn't mean they'll be able to play defense. I'm not sold on Kelly competing at the highest level. The Big East is not the highest level.
  • steel_curtain
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
    You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
    Sort of like I laugh at people who already ahve more than 1100 posts here.
  • SQ_Crazies
    steel_curtain wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
    You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
    Sort of like I laugh at people who already ahve more than 1100 posts here.
    LOL...ok?
  • hoops23
    I have quite a few posts, so what?

    I've been here since day one though, and have gotten into some lengthy back and forths on certain topics...
  • rocket31
    athlete37 wrote: 2. A player eating area so that the coaches can have better control of player diets. ND said no they will eat with everyone else.
    swarbrick said after the conference today he is working on a training table *only* for the notre dame football team where a nutritionists will prepare the players meals.
  • SQ_Crazies
    The fact that they wouldn't give in to some of those makes me laugh. Especially that one.