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#22 Michigan def. Illinois, 31-14

  • vball10set
    dave;969916 wrote: The Big 10 is terrible this year.
    /thread
  • merv
    Hamp89;961727 wrote:I like Illinois here in a close one. UM looking to make the annual year end crash yet again.
    :thumbup:

    LOL!!!
  • WebFire
    vball10set;969920 wrote:/thread
    But sleeper says it's because the B1G is deep. LOL

    Anyway, we might have a bit of a QB "controversy" going on.
  • bigkahuna
    I know I've said this before, but I'm in love with Fitzgerald Toussaint and his running ability.
  • dwccrew
    WebFire;969994 wrote:But sleeper says it's because the B1G is deep. LOL

    Anyway, we might have a bit of a QB "controversy" going on.
    If I'm a UM fan, you have to want Gardner in there. Robinson is just not that good this season. He has been figured out. He can't pass the ball worth a shit. Gardner is the guy if I'm Brady Hoke.

    UM's defense is looking much better this season. Still have some holes, but they are far and away better than the previous few seasons.
  • WebFire
    Mattison deserves every penny they are paying him. Check this out...

    Category, rank (2010 rank)

    scoring defense, 5th (107th)
    total defense, 16th (110th)
    rushing defense, 36th (95th)
    passing defense, 21st (112th)
    first downs allowed, 21st (107th)
    turnovers gained, 14th, (76th)
    opponent 3rd down conversions, 40th (95th)
    oppenent red zone conversions 1st, (89th)
    sacks, 46th, (93rd)
  • bigkahuna
    WebFire;970820 wrote:Mattison deserves every penny they are paying him. Check this out...

    Category, rank (2010 rank)

    scoring defense, 5th (107th)
    total defense, 16th (110th)
    rushing defense, 36th (95th)
    passing defense, 21st (112th)
    first downs allowed, 21st (107th)
    turnovers gained, 14th, (76th)
    opponent 3rd down conversions, 40th (95th)
    oppenent red zone conversions 1st, (89th)
    sacks, 46th, (93rd)
    I honestly thought this stat would be higher. It seems like every time there is a 3rd and short, we stone wall the offense for a loss or no gain. It seems like that happens a lot as well.

    However, I'm obviously ecstatic with the improvement.
  • dave
    They are still giving up third and long more than they should, but that is just due to the lack of talent/experience in the secondary. He's the best hire they made by far.

    I'm still not sure they can stop guys like Martinez and Miller though.
  • bigkahuna
    dave;970845 wrote:They are still giving up third and long more than they should, but that is just due to the lack of talent/experience in the secondary. He's the best hire they made by far.

    I'm still not sure they can stop guys like Martinez and Miller though.
    I didn't get to watch the game yesterday and stats don't always tell an accurate story, but how did the D do against Sheelhaus? His abilities are similar to those two but IMO is a better passer than both.
  • dave
    Very well, but you can't begin to compare the o-line and RBs of Neb/OSU to Illinois, that is the big difference.
  • bigkahuna
    dave;970866 wrote:Very well, but you can't begin to compare the o-line and RBs of Neb/OSU to Illinois, that is the big difference.
    Touche' good sir.