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Litttle Sisters of the Poor???

  • FatHobbit
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;884757 wrote:My alumni tickets were always getting me nose bleeds for Little Sisters of the Poor (haha) and so I quit buying them. I was much more comfortable in the air conditioning Saturday. Plus when the game was over (sometime after OSU's first score), I could go find somethign else to do.
    I still prefer to be in the shoe for games, but it's ridiculous when I give them $75 for a game that other people are paying $35 for. And then I end up with shitty seats to boot.
  • Automatik
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;884757 wrote:My alumni tickets were always getting me nose bleeds for Little Sisters of the Poor (haha) and so I quit buying them. I was much more comfortable in the air conditioning Saturday. Plus when the game was over (sometime after OSU's first score), I could go find somethign else to do.
    Alumni tickets are a rip off. I thought most people knew this.
  • FatHobbit
    Automatik;884986 wrote:Alumni tickets are a rip off. I thought most people knew this.
    I have a friend that has been buying tickets for so long he gets 4 to every home game. I was willing to bite the bullet when I thought some day that could be me. I think I'm done.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    On top of Gee's original blunders back in August, he then proceeds to write an op-ed piece for the USA Today where he cites Ohio State football as being in first place academically among the current Top 25 football programs. I've read and seen original sources that prove that this is simply not true. Pathetic enough from anyone in a position of authority. But from an academic who knows the importance of accuracy!!! I call it misleading at best and more probably lying.

    This guy is a black mark on Ohio State. I know New Albany Money Bags who owns the school insists he stays around. But Ohio State is worse for having him.
  • stroups
    Link?
  • Automatik
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;885151 wrote:On top of Gee's original blunders back in August, he then proceeds to write an op-ed piece for the USA Today where he cites Ohio State football as being in first place academically among the current Top 25 football programs. I've read and seen original sources that prove that this is simply not true. Pathetic enough from anyone in a position of authority. But from an academic who knows the importance of accuracy!!! I call it misleading at best and more probably lying.

    This guy is a black mark on Ohio State. I know New Albany Money Bags who owns the school insists he stays around. But Ohio State is worse for having him.
    Do you have a link about Gee's statement? I can't find it.
  • Automatik
    Here it is.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2011-05-31-Ohio-State-president-defends-himself-as-tough_n.htm

    Seems like a bold statement, but at that current time he could be correct.
  • Automatik
    According to this article he is correct.
    http://www.bucksinsider.com/football/ohio-state-ranked-1-among-top-25-in-academic-progress-rate/

    #1 in APR amount the top 25 at that time.
  • enigmaax
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;885151 wrote:On top of Gee's original blunders back in August, he then proceeds to write an op-ed piece for the USA Today where he cites Ohio State football as being in first place academically among the current Top 25 football programs. I've read and seen original sources that prove that this is simply not true. Pathetic enough from anyone in a position of authority. But from an academic who knows the importance of accuracy!!! I call it misleading at best and more probably lying.
    We, uh, chalking this up as a strikeout now?
  • Y-Town Steelhound
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;885151 wrote: But Ohio State is worse for having him.
    Any Ohio State student, (you know, the people who actually attend the university and know what the hell is going on) will tell you the complete opposite, especially compared to Holbrook.
  • LJ
    lol @ not knowing what the APR is
  • FatHobbit
    Y-Town Steelhound;885233 wrote:Any Ohio State student, (you know, the people who actually attend the university and know what the hell is going on) will tell you the complete opposite, especially compared to Holbrook.
    Lol, they just hated her because she cracked down on the drunk fest.
  • Y-Town Steelhound
    FatHobbit;885299 wrote:Lol, they just hated her because she cracked down on the drunk fest.
    I think it was more of her just not being a very good university president. Though I admit that categorizing a 50,000+ student campus as a bunch of rioters who do nothing but partake in "drunken orgies" (and I must say that my 4 years here at OSU, I have never partaken in nor heard of any drunken orgies....I must have missed them) probably didn't help her cause. There's a reason she's now at some joke position at USF.

    Gee on the other hand has respect for the students and continues to transform Ohio State, both academically and facility-wise, into the world class educational institution it always should've been. Ohio State as a University is worlds beyond what it used to be, so for that I think people can accept a couple ill-timed jokes about football.
  • Y-Town Steelhound
    Y-Town Steelhound;885321 wrote:I think it was more of her just not being a very good university president. Though I admit that categorizing a 50,000+ student campus as a bunch of rioters who do nothing but partake in "drunken orgies" (and I must say that my 4 years here at OSU, I have never partaken in nor heard of any drunken orgies....I must have missed them) probably didn't help her cause. There's a reason she's now at some joke position at USF.
    Gee on the other hand has respect for the students and continues to transform Ohio State, both academically and facility-wise, into the world class educational institution it always should've been. Ohio State as a University is worlds beyond what it used to be, so for that I think people can accept a couple ill-timed jokes about football.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    enigmaax;885193 wrote:We, uh, chalking this up as a strikeout now?
    Strikeout? No

    http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/6862152/tmq-says-nfl-players-accept-rules-start-own-league
  • enigmaax
    "It measures only whether players stay enrolled in college and are eligible to play." Do athletes not have to "perform" academically to stay eligible? APR is a performance measurement based on academic criteria and whether it is a "rigorous" formula or not, it is widely accepted and becoming an increasingly important figure to the NCAA. Since it is the only measurement of performance that the NCAA uses to determine whether or not a school is adequately balancing academics and athletics (they don't reduce scholarships for grade point average), I'd say he quite accurately represented his school's standing.
  • Footwedge
    dwccrew;884735 wrote:Colorado beat Georgia last season, so how is it a fail to compare them to Georgia? Also, you are using the VT win for Boise's benefit because of VT's final season ranking, let's see where Georgia finishes at the end of the year. My guess is at least 5 losses.
    Upsets happen. If Colorado played Georgia this year at a neutral cite, Georgia would be double digit favorites


    LOL, I'm not even considering the win against Akron when talking about whether or not the Buckeyes would be favored at home against Boise St. This is still Ohio State we are talking about. People act as if they lost every starter off last year's team. They are a top ranked team still and predicted to finish second in their division in the Big 10. They very well could still win the Big 10. they still have one of the best defenses in the country.


    Sorry Crew...but Boise State is 7 points better than our Buckeyes right now...on virtually all power ranking charts. Google Sagarin for one. Home field is worth about 4 points. So...Boise would be a 3 point fav at Columbus...and probably 11.5 favorite in Idaho.
    When speaking of consistency in the college football world, Ohio State must be considered. I'm not saying they would win against Boise St. at home (although I would bet on them), but to say Ohio State wouldn't be favored at home against Boise St. definitely proves to me that someone doesn't understand the world of odds making. BSU was a 3.5 point favorite against ****ty old Georgia! BSU would go into Columbus, the reigning 6 time Big Ten champs and a team that won 2 consecutive BCS bowls and still have one of the best defenses and be favored? OK. Easy for you to say when the game isn't happening.
    Call Vegas...they will all tell you Boise wiould be the favorite right now.

    See above. We're talking Ohio State here. Wisconsin, Nebraska and Ohio State are 3 teams in the Big Ten that I'd bet almost anything on being FAVORED at home against BSU.
    Wisky and Nebraska are rated a good bit higher than OSU. It would be close to a toss up in Nebraska, and Wisky would be a slight favorite...1-2 ponts...in Madison.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    enigmaax;885377 wrote:"It measures only whether players stay enrolled in college and are eligible to play." Do athletes not have to "perform" academically to stay eligible? APR is a performance measurement based on academic criteria and whether it is a "rigorous" formula or not, it is widely accepted and becoming an increasingly important figure to the NCAA. Since it is the only measurement of performance that the NCAA uses to determine whether or not a school is adequately balancing academics and athletics (they don't reduce scholarships for grade point average), I'd say he quite accurately represented his school's standing.
    There are various metrics to measure performance. Whether players stay enrolled in school is hardly the prime measurement of how strong the academic performance by the team is. The article I linked to also indicates that Ohio State's high ranking was in the category of "improvement", not "performance".

    Look, I think Tressel did a good job with his players on the academic front. My reason for pointing this out is to provide another example of Gee being a complete liability to the school. He's created a cult of personality.
  • enigmaax
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;885882 wrote:There are various metrics to measure performance. Whether players stay enrolled in school is hardly the prime measurement of how strong the academic performance by the team is. The article I linked to also indicates that Ohio State's high ranking was in the category of "improvement", not "performance".

    Look, I think Tressel did a good job with his players on the academic front. My reason for pointing this out is to provide another example of Gee being a complete liability to the school. He's created a cult of personality.
    I'm not a Tressel, OSU, or even Gee fan. But you are using the wrong example. The author in your article is an idiot for the way he's presenting APR. Whether you agree it is the best method or not, the NCAA views APR as THE measuring stick of "academic performance" (exactly what Gee said). It is the only academic measurement for which they'll reduce scholarships and impose post-season bans. Gee was absolutely correct in using the term "academic performance" because the NCAA, itself, defines APR with that very phrase (and OSU was ranked exactly where he said - #1 out of the final Top 25 poll - at the time). From ncaa.org:
    Academic Progress Rate (APR).The APR is the fulcrum upon which the entire academic-reform structure rests. Developed as a more real-time assessment of teams' academic performance than the six-year graduation-rate calculation provides, the APR awards two points each term to student-athletes who meet academic-eligibility standards and who remain with the institution. A team's APR is the total points earned by the team at a given time divided by the total points possible.
    http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/ncaa/NCAA/Academics+and+Athletes/Education+and+Research/Academic+Reform/General+Information/defining_academic_reform.html
  • dat dude
    Boise would undoubtedly be favored in Columbus right now.
  • Tiernan
    ^^^
    But they would still lose...