NCAA changing APR rules

• gorocks99

  

  http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6853878/ncaa-committee-approves-increase-apr-cutline
  
  Currently, teams under 900 face postseason bans pending an appeals process. Under the new rules, teams below 930 would face bans, and potentially no appeals process. Although this probably hits college basketball more than college football, it fits both places and this board is getting more traffic this time of year.
  

  It's a significant change from the APR structure now in place. Currently, teams with a four-year APR of 925 or below face penalties like loss of scholarships. Only if a team falls below a 900 and is therefore considered a chronic under-performer will it face 'historical penalties' including postseason bans.
  
  Now the NCAA will do away with the 900 cutoff, forcing all teams to raise their academic standards or sit on the sidelines in the postseason. Under the new standards, 12 teams would not have qualified for this year's NCAA tournament, including Ohio State and Syracuse.

• darbypitcher22

  

  not sure if I agree with this. Seems like for as much success that was being had by some and how much praise the NCAA was giving schools who met it that the NCAA kind of is pulling a 180 here
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Ugh. OSU got screwed because Oden left early and dropped out of a class (he didn't know it would hurt) and then Koufos did the same thing even though he was asked not to by the coaches. Between those two incidents, it really dropped OSU. Not sure how quickly you can recover with the 4 year average in play.
• gorocks99

  

  Writerbuckeye;859106 wrote:Ugh. OSU got screwed because Oden left early and dropped out of a class (he didn't know it would hurt) and then Koufos did the same thing even though he was asked not to by the coaches. Between those two incidents, it really dropped OSU. Not sure how quickly you can recover with the 4 year average in play.

  
  From the sounds of it, it wouldn't be a "right away" change, allowing schools to up their academic standards in time. So I don't think OSU would need to worry about Koufos and Oden damaging their APR.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Someone on another board said those two are now out of the averaging as of now. I hope that's accurate.
  
  OSU's score was 952 last time and is expected to be higher next go-around. Football was in the top 5, I believe.
• WebFire

  gorocks99;859120 wrote:From the sounds of it, it wouldn't be a "right away" change, allowing schools to up their academic standards in time. So I don't think OSU would need to worry about Koufos and Oden damaging their APR.

  
  That would only be fair.
• WebFire

  Implementation of the new limits will begin in the '14-'15 academic year, and the new penalty structure will not be implemented until the 2015-'16 academic year.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Idiotic rule.
• sleeper

  

  This will pretty much will lead to SEC schools outside of Florida and Vanderbilt from competing in any post season bowl games.
  
  Well either that or the SEC manipulating student grades even more than they are now.
• Cat Food Flambe'

  

  OSU's problem with APR is in the men's basketball program, and will summarily end with the change to academic semesters next year.
  
  If you turn pro before your senior year ( which a large majority of NBA-bound college players do), you have to be in full-time training mode by mid-May. For a player at a semester school,, this is not a issue - school's out in early May. At a school on academic quarters, a player must leave before completing a term during which he played (basketball season almost always runs into the first week of spring quarter). This is a huge APR "ding", and it's happened to tOSU several times. I've read (can't verify, though) that without this factor the OSU BB program would be in the top quarter of basketball programs in the country.
  
  Not to say some of the kids might not start ditching class the first day after the season ends, but at least you don't have the built-in penalty.
• WebFire

  Michigan football got dinged pretty good from the RR era because of all the transfers. But ironically none of it had to do with academics. Michigan should be fine with the 4 year average, and before long it will be a non-issue for them.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Cat Food Flambe';859580 wrote:OSU's problem with APR is in the men's basketball program, and will summarily end with the change to academic semesters next year.
  
  If you turn pro before your senior year ( which a large majority of NBA-bound college players do), you have to be in full-time training mode by mid-May. For a player at a semester school,, this is not a issue - school's out in early May. At a school on academic quarters, a player must leave before completing a term during which he played (basketball season almost always runs into the first week of spring quarter). This is a huge APR "ding", and it's happened to tOSU several times. I've read (can't verify, though) that without this factor the OSU BB program would be in the top quarter of basketball programs in the country.
  
  Not to say some of the kids might not start ditching class the first day after the season ends, but at least you don't have the built-in penalty.

  
  See my post above. I was told those two "dings" are now out of the system and things should be fine. They posted a 952 last time, and if what you're saying is correct, it may be higher next time around.
  
  The change to semesters will likely prevent any future issues in this area. There wouldn't have been a major problem in the first place if Koufos hadn't essentially said, "Screw you" to the coaches and dropped out of a class they advised him not to take or make sure he finished.