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  • Speedofsand
    WebFire;844255 wrote:Oh yes. I didn't mean the players. I meant for other people to sell the stuff is not against the rules.

    I think its against a rule, but realize the NCAA has 2,436,971 rules. The only time something is done about it is usually when the seller is a booster.

    LOL @ vball being so sensitive that this was compared to OSU. Where is the OhioChatter rule that you can't mention any other school once a thread is started? I've read plenty of boards comparing the two since about a week before it was posted here. Very similar accusations are being thrown out. Players getting improper benefits for trading items. Bama covered their ass in this with a letter to the store owner instead of Saban lying to hide it.
  • WebFire
    vball10set;844310 wrote:I did...I misunderstood you Webbie, and you are correct.

    Of course, the suspicion is still high. Let's see what comes of all this. Obviously the dealer with the autographs is a little nervous...he refuses to speak to any media about it.
  • WebFire
    Speedofsand;844355 wrote:I think its against a rule, but realize the NCAA has 2,436,971 rules. The only time something is done about it is usually when the seller is a booster.

    LOL @ vball being so sensitive that this was compared to OSU. Where is the OhioChatter rule that you can't mention any other school once a thread is started? I've read plenty of boards comparing the two since about a week before it was posted here. Very similar accusations are being thrown out. Players getting improper benefits for trading items. Bama covered their ass in this with a letter to the store owner instead of Saban lying to hide it.

    The important thing about the letter is if the school knew they were getting money for the autographs and didn't report it. At that point, the letter only servers to prove the university knew. Then they'd be in a big pile of doo-doo.
  • Speedofsand
    I'm pretty sure that a legal letter like that 'cease and desist' from the school would be reported. I have not really paid attention to the story yet.
  • vball10set
    Speedofsand;844355 wrote:I think its against a rule, but realize the NCAA has 2,436,971 rules. The only time something is done about it is usually when the seller is a booster.

    LOL @ vball being so sensitive that this was compared to OSU. Where is the OhioChatter rule that you can't mention any other school once a thread is started? I've read plenty of boards comparing the two since about a week before it was posted here. Very similar accusations are being thrown out. Players getting improper benefits for trading items. Bama covered their ass in this with a letter to the store owner instead of Saban lying to hide it.
    LOL at speedosand stalking me yet again...but what's even funnier is the fact that he's got one of his 12 kids reading other boards to him so he can come on here and act like he knows wtf he's talking about--just like you, doublewide, it ain't workin' :D
  • Speedofsand
    here is a good one, from Sept. '10.

  • Speedofsand
    I should have seen this already. Ed Aschoff just left the Sun for ESPN this year.

    By Edward Aschoff
    Alabama has disassociated from T-Town Menswear owner Tom Albetar for three years and the school is saying he didn't break any NCAA rules while in contact with Tide players.

    A hand-delivered disassociation letter was taken to Albetar in March -- clearly showing the store owner the seriousness of the situation. In December, Alabama officials sent him a cease-and-desist letter to stop selling, distributing or promoting items signed by or depicting current players.

    Here is an excerpt from Alabama's disassociation letter to Albetar:

    The institution must remain cautious regarding any relationship you may have with its student-athletes beyond that of a store owner and customer. As the owner of a local business, the institution is reliant on you to heed all instruction provided by the institution and it compliance staff regarding adherence to NCAA rules.

    It is important for you to understand the University is not making specific conclusions or specific allegations aquatint you at this time. Your conduct and interaction with student-athletes, as well as that of your employees, has been appropriately reviewed, and appears to be compliant with NCAA regulations. However, given the numerous items of memorabilia displayed in your store, including at times, some belonging to or signed by current student-athletes, you have potentially placed the University and it's student-athletes at risk. This risk includes exposing our student-athletes to potential NCAA investigators or sensationalized journalism based on assumptions that wrongdoing has taken place.


    Alabama compliance director Mike Ward also released a statement Tuesday that said Albetar was in compliance with the rules and that an internal investigation didn't find any indication that athletes received any extra benefits.

    "Our review of this matter was a part of our normal compliance program," Ward said. "We routinely look at all situations of potential concern. Based on our review of this matter, we concluded that Mr. Albetar was in compliance with NCAA regulations. It is not a violation for student-athletes to sign autographs and it is not a violation for a business to display photos, jerseys or other items depicting current student-athletes. We found no evidence that any student-athlete received any extra benefits.

    "Due to the concerns expressed in our letter to Mr. Albetar dated March 31, 2011, we disassociated him from our program. As we always do in matters of this nature, we discussed this matter with the SEC office. Because we found no evidence of any NCAA violation, we did not self-report a violation."

    Things got interesting with this story when pictures of running back Trent Richardson posing with Albetar and signing memorabilia popped up on the Internet last week. Each day, new pictures of different athletes surfaced, including former wide receiver Julio Jones wearing a suit jacket inside Albetar's store.

    Still, there is nothing wrong with players posing for Facebook pictures or parading around a store.

    So far, it appears that Alabama will be fine. College athletes sign helmets, jerseys and T-shirts all the time, but as long as players aren’t receiving extra benefits on the side for their penmanship or knew what they were signing would be sold or used as a promotional benefit for the store, what they did can't be considered a NCAA violation.
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    of course we all know the real truth here, problem is the NCAA can't prove much, if anything.
  • stroups
    Who knows if they can prove anything but I think anybody with half a brain can connect the dots. Blood is in the water let's see if the sharks will start circling.
  • sleeper
    The Alabama players were just signing the autographs for the store owner to make a profit off of. It's not like he was paying the players for it, they just wanted to help a man out.

    Nothing to see here, other than if it was OSU it'd be blasted all over the internet.
  • Speedofsand
    sleeper;845536 wrote:The Alabama players were just signing the autographs for the store owner to make a profit off of. It's not like he was paying the players for it, they just wanted to help a man out.

    Nothing to see here, other than if it was OSU it'd be blasted all over the internet.

    It IS blasted all over the internet. That's how ESPN found out 2 days ago.

  • sleeper
    Speedofsand;845542 wrote:It IS blasted all over the internet. That's how ESPN found out 2 days ago.


    No its not. Let's not even getting started on all the infractions Florida has been skirting for years. Or are you on of the blind homers who think Urban Meyer resigned due to "health reasons"?
  • SportsAndLady
    WebFire;844186 wrote:My apologies. I really wasn't wanting to make it an OSU discussion. It was a comparison of like situations.

    Now, let's discuss. Do you see my point about pictures of people signing items is no reason for conviction? That doesn't mean they didn't do it. But it's not against the rules for them to sign things. And it's not against the rules for anyone to sell items with signatures.

    Good post. Got some respect back from me, Web.

    I always thought you were a good poster; just thought it was strange how many OSU threads you've been on lately...but oh well, it's not a big deal.
  • WebFire
    SportsAndLady;845634 wrote:Good post. Got some respect back from me, Web.

    I always thought you were a good poster; just thought it was strange how many OSU threads you've been on lately...but oh well, it's not a big deal.

    Well, like I said, if I want to talk college football at the OC, I don't really have much choice. And living in Ohio, I actually do follow OSU to an extent because it's all around me, and it's my favorite teams rival.

    :cool:
  • Speedofsand
    sleeper;845599 wrote:No its not. Let's not even getting started on all the infractions Florida has been skirting for years. Or are you on of the blind homers who think Urban Meyer resigned due to "health reasons"?

    Yes it is. I win. Do you have proof of your accusations vs. Florida? Last time they got in trouble, I was still a Buckeye. Foley don't cheat, you're just making shit up like the other jealous trolls here.
  • sleeper
    Speedofsand;845727 wrote:Yes it is. I win. Do you have proof of your accusations vs. Florida? Last time they got in trouble, I was still a Buckeye. Foley don't cheat, you're just making **** up like the other jealous trolls here.

    I have as much proof as the national media did for OSU that Florida pays it players and the administration knows about it.
  • Tobias Fünke
    ^^^and that is?
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;845634 wrote:Good post. Got some respect back from me, Web.

    I always thought you were a good poster; just thought it was strange how many OSU threads you've been on lately...but oh well, it's not a big deal.

    lol-- now who's rounding third and going home? :cool: (just messin' with ya', so don't get all crazy now!!)
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;845634 wrote:Good post. Got some respect back from me, Web.

    I always thought you were a good poster; just thought it was strange how many OSU threads you've been on lately...but oh well, it's not a big deal.

    good lord, S&L -- look who's rounding third and heading home now :p
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;845634 wrote:Good post. Got some respect back from me, Web.

    I always thought you were a good poster; just thought it was strange how many OSU threads you've been on lately...but oh well, it's not a big deal.
    SportsAndLady;833195 wrote:You guys are rounding third base and heading home!!


    what goes around, comes around, eh? :o
  • Speedofsand
    vball10set;846083 wrote:ohhh, the irony :D

  • Big Gain
    Speedofsand;845521 wrote:
    So far, it appears that Alabama will be fine. College athletes sign helmets, jerseys and T-shirts all the time, but as long as players aren’t receiving extra benefits on the side for their penmanship or knew what they were signing would be sold or used as a promotional benefit for the store, what they did can't be considered a NCAA violation.
    .....................................

    of course we all know the real truth here, problem is the NCAA can't prove much, if anything.
    The players had no idea their signed memorabilia "would be used as a promotional benefit for the store."??? LOLOLOL I forgot how dumb Alabama players are.
  • vball10set
    Speedofsand;846329 wrote:

    cute, but not relevant here--and a little late as well....btw, speaking of relatives, how's your boys?

  • vball10set
    Big Gain;846365 wrote:The players had no idea their signed memorabilia "would be used as a promotional benefit for the store."??? LOLOLOL I forgot how dumb SEC players are.

    fify