Will this be the year an SEC team doesnt win the national championship?

• Iliketurtles

  

  Yes an SEC will not win the national champion this year. I'd put my money on Oklahoma or Florida State.
• OhioStatePride2003

  cats gone wild;832018 wrote:LSU is the most picked team by the media, and why shouldnt they? But, it will depend on their matchup's with Oregon and Bama. I wish LSU played a B10 type of schedule where it would be a guarantee to go 13-0 but we gotta play 6 ranked teams a year. Just builds them up to be prepared for a title game though.
  Oregon loses alot of linemen and will get beat by double digits by LSU. I still dont see what anyone sees in Oklahoma or FSU. Unless they are a TON better from last year, they are not "very" good. Oklahoma squeaked by nobodies last year in a down B12. And we all know OK's history in BCS games. If OSU wasnt a bunch of paid players and had their coach, this would of been a good year for them.
  
  LSU or Bama will win the title this year, BOOK IT and quote me on it for future reference.

  Why shouldn't they? Well because by your theory, no one gets better year-to-year. Oklahoma went 12-2 last year, and returns darn near everyone. FSU lost four games last year, but they return almost everyone. LSU - barely got by Tennessee (should've lost), you only beat WVU @ home by six and you go to Morgantown this year - that's a loss. Since 2008 - LSU has 11 losses. By comparison, OU only has 9. FSU has had more dominate years than LSU fans could ever dream and are on their way back to being FSU again.
  
  And why should anyone quote you? You'll simply delete your post, like you did when you said LSU was a squeaky clean program and then renigged on that quote when they got busted. LSU will lose to Oregon, WVU, Tennessee, 'Bama, Florida and Mississippi State - BOOK THAT and quote me for future reference douchebag.
• Ty Webb

  

  OhioStatePride2003;835738 wrote:Why shouldn't they? Well because by your theory, no one gets better year-to-year. Oklahoma went 12-2 last year, and returns darn near everyone. FSU lost four games last year, but they return almost everyone. LSU - barely got by Tennessee (should've lost), you only beat WVU @ home by six and you go to Morgantown this year - that's a loss. Since 2008 - LSU has 11 losses. By comparison, OU only has 9. FSU has had more dominate years than LSU fans could ever dream and are on their way back to being FSU again.
  
  And why should anyone quote you? You'll simply delete your post, like you did when you said LSU was a squeaky clean program and then renigged on that quote when they got busted. LSU will lose to Oregon, WVU, Tennessee, 'Bama, Florida and Mississippi State - BOOK THAT and quote me for future reference douchebag.

  Don't know I would quite go that far-we will be good...but not good enough to beat LSU(IMO)
• cats gone wild

  OhioStatePride2003;835738 wrote:Why shouldn't they? Well because by your theory, no one gets better year-to-year. Oklahoma went 12-2 last year, and returns darn near everyone. FSU lost four games last year, but they return almost everyone. LSU - barely got by Tennessee (should've lost), you only beat WVU @ home by six and you go to Morgantown this year - that's a loss. Since 2008 - LSU has 11 losses. By comparison, OU only has 9. FSU has had more dominate years than LSU fans could ever dream and are on their way back to being FSU again.
  
  And why should anyone quote you? You'll simply delete your post, like you did when you said LSU was a squeaky clean program and then renigged on that quote when they got busted. LSU will lose to Oregon, WVU, Tennessee, 'Bama, Florida and Mississippi State - BOOK THAT and quote me for future reference douchebag.

  
  I have found out that you are the biggest clown on this site who knows squat. Done responding to your non-sense. Sleeper knows more than you do. Even the girlie sports fans on here (vballset, ccrunner) know more than you........and thats hard to beat.
• OhioStatePride2003

  cats gone wild;835893 wrote:I have found out that you are the biggest clown on this site who knows squat. Done responding to your non-sense. Sleeper knows more than you do. Even the girlie sports fans on here (vballset, ccrunner) know more than you........and thats hard to beat.

  
  Awww...did I kick some sand into your vagina? Are you crying? It's okay punkin', being wrong isn't the end of the world. 269 post and I'm the biggest clown you know? Amazing. Out of your 1353 post - I'll bet that about 3 of them actually make sense - and that's a stretch. I stated facts. Facts, incase you were wondering, mean that something is true. LSU has 11 loses in the last three years. Fact. LSU will lose, more than likely, 4-5 games this year. (Pending)Fact. You're an idiot who is incapable of processing facts. Fact.
• vball10set

  cats gone wild;835893 wrote:I have found out that you are the biggest clown on this site who knows squat. Done responding to your non-sense. Sleeper knows more than you do. Even the girlie sports fans on here (vballset, ccrunner) know more than you........and thats hard to beat.

  
  lol--and who's the stalker?? before you know it, you'll have everyone on here on your ignore list
• vball10set

  cats gone wild;835893 wrote:I have found out that you are the biggest clown on this site who knows squat. Done responding to your non-sense. Sleeper knows more than you do. Even the girlie sports fans on here (vballset, ccrunner) know more than you........and thats hard to beat.

  
  LMAO--did she really say girlie sports? now that's funny!!!
• enigmaax

  OhioStatePride2003;835738 wrote:Well because by your theory, no one gets better year-to-year. Oklahoma went 12-2 last year, and returns darn near everyone. FSU lost four games last year, but they return almost everyone. LSU - barely got by Tennessee (should've lost), you only beat WVU @ home by six and you go to Morgantown this year - that's a loss.
  
  And why should anyone quote you? You'll simply delete your post, like you did when you said LSU was a squeaky clean program and then renigged on that quote when they got busted. LSU will lose to Oregon, WVU, Tennessee, 'Bama, Florida and Mississippi State - BOOK THAT and quote me for future reference douchebag.

  I don't remember anything you've posted before, but there are a couple things wrong with this post. You are bitching that cgw thinks "no one gets better", but you're examples are two teams who had at least one completely embarrassing loss, while the team you're downplaying had two .... um, embarrassing wins? LSU lost by a TD to two BCS teams, beat 4 ranked teams (including Alabama, who many people thought were the best team despite their losses and who many have at the top coming into this season), and beat the shit out of one of those teams that beat Oklahoma. I don't think LSU will finish where a few pre-season prognosticators have put them (yes, some have them #1), but you're going to be a much bigger turd if they don't lose close to the six games you just stated. I never understand why people act like others are idiots when no one here is any kind of professional prognosticator.
  
  The other thing is that cats did not delete anything. It took me about five seconds to find his "clean" post. He never used the word "squeaky" and the quote is still there. He even told you what thread and what page. Why say dumb shit that makes you look like a fucktard?
  

  Iliketurtles;835705 wrote:Yes an SEC will not win the national champion this year. I'd put my money on Oklahoma or Florida State.

  
  I still think FSU will lose two games, but I have to admit that I would actually like to see them do well. I've followed Virginia Beach football (from afar, mostly - had family there) for about 25 years so I kind of have a soft spot for EJ Manuel. I won't be rooting for them, but I won't mind it if he does well. Obviously, I still hate that FSU and Florida are apparently moving in opposite directions.
• OhioStatePride2003

  enigmaax;835976 wrote:I don't remember anything you've posted before, but there are a couple things wrong with this post. You are bitching that cgw thinks "no one gets better", but you're examples are two teams who had at least one completely embarrassing loss, while the team you're downplaying had two .... um, embarrassing wins? LSU lost by a TD to two BCS teams, beat 4 ranked teams (including Alabama, who many people thought were the best team despite their losses and who many have at the top coming into this season), and beat the **** out of one of those teams that beat Oklahoma. I don't think LSU will finish where a few pre-season prognosticators have put them (yes, some have them #1), but you're going to be a much bigger turd if they don't lose close to the six games you just stated. I never understand why people act like others are idiots when no one here is any kind of professional prognosticator.
  
  The other thing is that cats did not delete anything. It took me about five seconds to find his "clean" post. He never used the word "squeaky" and the quote is still there. He even told you what thread and what page. Why say dumb **** that makes you look like a ****tard?
  
  
  
  I still think FSU will lose two games, but I have to admit that I would actually like to see them do well. I've followed Virginia Beach football (from afar, mostly - had family there) for about 25 years so I kind of have a soft spot for EJ Manuel. I won't be rooting for them, but I won't mind it if he does well. Obviously, I still hate that FSU and Florida are apparently moving in opposite directions.

  
  I was simply saying that based on CGW's logic, a team that went 10-3 last year couldn't possibly be undefeated this year. He said Oklahoma isn't that great, yet many of the "experts" are talking about Oklahoma just as much, if not more, than LSU. I've seen OU #1 in more preseason polls than LSU. And I made an "expert" prediction that LSU would lose 4-5 games this year. Will I look like an idiot if they don't? Sure, whatever. Will he look like an idiot if they don't play for a National Championship? Guess not.
  
  Also, I never dug around looking for his post saying he was clean, was simply basing it off of the earlier comments by some that said he renigged on his comments about LSU bein' clean. Nice of you to come to his defense though, kinda cute. Never thought I'd be attacked by a duo of butt pirates though, not so cute.
• enigmaax

  OhioStatePride2003;836038 wrote: Also, I never dug around looking for his post saying he was clean, was simply basing it off of the earlier comments by some that said he renigged on his comments about LSU bein' clean. Nice of you to come to his defense though, kinda cute. Never thought I'd be attacked by a duo of butt pirates though, not so cute.

  
  Ummm...okay. Wasn't attacking you, but you were completely wrong and a total jackass about it. If you're gonna be a dick, at least have your facts right.
• OhioStatePride2003

  enigmaax;836047 wrote:Ummm...okay. Wasn't attacking you, but you were completely wrong and a total jackass about it. If you're gonna be a ****, at least have your facts right.

  
  What did I say that wasn't a fact? Aside from him not deleting his post? And you do know who you're sticking up for right? And I'm the total jackass? Holy Hell I wish the OC had brail, b/c clearly you're blind.
• enigmaax

  OhioStatePride2003;836064 wrote:Aside from him not deleting his post?

  That is what I was talking about. You jumped on that coward-deleted-your-post nonsense even after it had been proven wrong. That is just dumb and it has nothing to do with talking sports.
  
  As for the other stuff, I'm not going to pick apart predictions because none of us know and it is not my thing. You may end up being right, cats may end up being right. The only thing I pointed out is that you didn't support your point very well - what you characterized as cats' logic wasn't his logic at all, so you were off target with that. Then, you didn't support your point very well with the examples you used. Your final result may end up being right, I just don't get how you arrived at it based on what you posted. While you threw out a lot of facts (the number of losses), they are mostly arbitrary and you didn't even compare the same attributes of the teams. For example, what does LSU return? What were the losses that each team suffered - whose were worse and why would those results be any different (besides, "they return a lot of people)? Who did Oklahoma and FSU beat that makes you think they were good or will be better? Those points don't have anything to do with defending cats, btw.
  
  Just for the record, I think Oklahoma and FSU are set up best schedule-wise, relative to their talent, so you and I seem to agree on that. I also think LSU has probably the most talent in the SEC, but I'm not sold on their coach or QB and so I think they'll drop a couple. I also think FSU will drop a couple, but that is just a general feeling based on their last few years (or maybe I'm hoping?).
• OhioStatePride2003

  enigmaax;836195 wrote:That is what I was talking about. You jumped on that coward-deleted-your-post nonsense even after it had been proven wrong. That is just dumb and it has nothing to do with talking sports.
  
  As for the other stuff, I'm not going to pick apart predictions because none of us know and it is not my thing. You may end up being right, cats may end up being right. The only thing I pointed out is that you didn't support your point very well - what you characterized as cats' logic wasn't his logic at all, so you were off target with that. Then, you didn't support your point very well with the examples you used. Your final result may end up being right, I just don't get how you arrived at it based on what you posted. While you threw out a lot of facts (the number of losses), they are mostly arbitrary and you didn't even compare the same attributes of the teams. For example, what does LSU return? What were the losses that each team suffered - whose were worse and why would those results be any different (besides, "they return a lot of people)? Who did Oklahoma and FSU beat that makes you think they were good or will be better? Those points don't have anything to do with defending cats, btw.
  
  Just for the record, I think Oklahoma and FSU are set up best schedule-wise, relative to their talent, so you and I seem to agree on that. I also think LSU has probably the most talent in the SEC, but I'm not sold on their coach or QB and so I think they'll drop a couple. I also think FSU will drop a couple, but that is just a general feeling based on their last few years (or maybe I'm hoping?).

  
  Fair enough, but who did LSU beat that makes you (or anyone) believe they'll be good or better? We agree, their coach and QB will cost them at LEAST two games. It appeared to me that he (cgw) was saying that Oklahoma wouldn't be very good this year based on what they did last year. Clearly LSU had a tougher schedule, but lost to teams they really should've beat (Arkansas, and had the 'Bama game). They squeaked by teams that in all honesty, they were ten times better than: UNC, WVU, Tennessee, Florida... Oklahoma may have played "weaker" competition in the Big 12, but beating UNC (minus a bunch of starters), WVU (Big East?), Tennessee (hasn't been relevant since Peyton), and Florida (anticipating a new coach/QB) isn't anything to brag about. Fair?
• karen lotz

  

  Florida had a new coach last year?
• OhioStatePride2003

  karen lotz;836226 wrote:Florida had a new coach last year?

  
  No no, of course not. I goofed, my BAD.
• cats gone wild

  OhioStatePride2003;836221 wrote: They squeaked by teams that in all honesty, they were ten times better than: UNC, WVU, Tennessee, Florida... Oklahoma may have played "weaker" competition in the Big 12, but beating UNC (minus a bunch of starters), WVU (Big East?), Tennessee (hasn't been relevant since Peyton), /QUOTE]
  
  Hey enigmaax.....just ignore this idiot. He doesnt know football. Here is another huge mistake by him. "Tenn hasnt been relevant since Peyton".
  Sorry pride2003, but uh.........Tennessee won the national championship the year AFTER Peyton left Tenn and have been to 3 SEC title games since the title. This dude needs a huge history lesson.

• cats gone wild

  OhioStatePride2003;836221 wrote: They squeaked by teams that in all honesty, they were ten times better than: UNC, WVU, Tennessee, Florida... Oklahoma may have played "weaker" competition in the Big 12, but beating UNC (minus a bunch of starters), WVU (Big East?), Tennessee (hasn't been relevant since Peyton)

  Hey enigmaax.....just ignore this idiot. He doesnt know football. Here is another huge mistake by him. "Tenn hasnt been relevant since Peyton".
  Sorry pride2003, but uh.........Tennessee won the national championship the year AFTER Peyton left Tenn and have been to 3 SEC title games since the title. This dude needs a huge history lesson.
• 0311sdp

  It's a huge advantage to oversign, recruiting is a crap shoot with maybe 50% success, so if you sign 30-35 kids every year as opposed to 20-22 your odds of getting more good players jumps a lot. In any 4 year period you should get at least 20 more good players who can actually contribute giving you tremendous depth. I personally think it's unethical to do this but until the NCAA steps in and says no more, you can't really blame any school who wants to win national titles for doing it. Not having uniform academic standards from Conference to Conference has a lot to do with SEC dominance (as much as oversigning) So the SEC gets all the "dumb" kids plus 10-15 extra kids each year. Still the SEC is doing nothing illegal just taking advantage of the rules. Case in point the Carter kid who signed with Ohio State flunked out, went to a JC, still was ineligible to return to OSU, then wanted to go to the U, did not meet there entrance requirements, goes to Alabama, NO PROBLEMS.
• enigmaax

  OhioStatePride2003;836221 wrote:Fair enough, but who did LSU beat that makes you (or anyone) believe they'll be good or better? We agree, their coach and QB will cost them at LEAST two games. It appeared to me that he (cgw) was saying that Oklahoma wouldn't be very good this year based on what they did last year. Clearly LSU had a tougher schedule, but lost to teams they really should've beat (Arkansas, and had the 'Bama game). They squeaked by teams that in all honesty, they were ten times better than: UNC, WVU, Tennessee, Florida... Oklahoma may have played "weaker" competition in the Big 12, but beating UNC (minus a bunch of starters), WVU (Big East?), Tennessee (hasn't been relevant since Peyton), and Florida (anticipating a new coach/QB) isn't anything to brag about. Fair?

  Arkansas was a BCS team who gave OSU all it wanted and it is difficult to say anyone really should've beaten Alabama, who probably had as much talent as anyone in the country but couldn't put it all together. LSU had a good season against a difficult schedule, you just can't deny that. Nobody is playing a top five team every single week and you keep talking about how LSU slid by - Oklahoma barely beat Utah State, Air Force, and Cincinnati. Again, I'll point out that LSU also absolutely took A&M to the shed and that UNC team happened to beat Florida State. You can come up with some argument as to why no win is "great" - Oklahoma's best were against Nebraska (on the way out the door) and Oklahoma State (no defense against either good team it played). And who is Florida State's? They got drilled by 30 in their biggest game - how are they suddenly going to close that gap on OU? None of those teams are bad picks this year, but none make you think they're "great" if you're looking at past results.
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  LSU should win the SEC this year, and assuming they do win the SEC, I think you could very well see another SEC team win the title.
  
  Now... with that being said... I do think this will be the year that someone else outside of the SEC wins the title. I just can't fathom the SEC winning 6 years in a row.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Only way LSU wins a title, is if the season allows one of the two title teams to have a loss or two. Miles is good for a loss solely on his coaching blunders.
• se-alum

  

  ts1227;835379 wrote:LOL. There isn't one conference or school that operates on morals. It falls under tradition moreso ("that's not how we used to do it" ) .
  
  I think most conferences expected the NCAA to step in when this practice started in earnest, whenever that was, but it never happened, and here we are.

  You don't think that there are coaches/Universities out there that truly care about a kids well being?? I beg to differ.
• vball10set

  cats gone wild;836281 wrote:Hey enigmaax.....just ignore this idiot. He doesnt know football.

  
  Irony in it's purest form .... /thread
• OhioStatePride2003

  vball10set;836527 wrote:Irony in it's purest form .... /thread

  
  I don't bask in the glory that is SEC Football. Never paid much attention to the SEC, and yes - I knew Tennessee won the year AFTER Peyton left, but they don't stand out as a LSU, 'Bama, Auburn type. I'll stick to not knowing football all day, the website I work for and write for must think I know something? Tell me cgw, do you get paid to give your jackass opinion? I do
  
  Also, you won't convince me that UNC, Tennessee, WVU, and Florida were relevant in football last year. Even if they were, LSU was hands down better than those teams - and they scraped by. It happens. In no way shape or form did I imply that Oklahoma was even better than LSU last year, but if you're gonna knock Oklahoma for barely beating Cincinnati - LSU barely beating WVU AT home is inexcusable. I'm done with your morons.
• enigmaax

  OhioStatePride2003;836711 wrote: Also, you won't convince me that UNC, Tennessee, WVU, and Florida were relevant in football last year. Even if they were, LSU was hands down better than those teams - and they scraped by. It happens. In no way shape or form did I imply that Oklahoma was even better than LSU last year, but if you're gonna knock Oklahoma for barely beating Cincinnati - LSU barely beating WVU AT home is inexcusable. I'm done with your morons.

  
  Yes, good teams play bad games sometimes - and they win some, lose some. But, why would knocking a team for scraping by a 4-8 bottom dweller equate in any way to another team's win over a 9-win conference champion?
  
  I'm not sure why you have to try to insult someone at the end of every post, but I'm still curious to hear your thought process. You eliminate a lot of teams from being "good" wins. What does it take for you to consider it a "good" win and how many contenders actually have any of those in your mind?
  
  Also, are you going to share your website with the rest of us? I'm interested to read your articles (sincerely).