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Jimmy Clausen and Golden Tate 2pm press conference

  • Goldenboy26
    Clausen already stated he is leaving, most likely Tate is gone too
  • sherm03
    Best of luck to both of them!
  • killer_ewok
    Yeah, good luck to both. Clausen had a helluva year and Tate had a great career at ND. He was a bright spot during a dismal '07 season.
  • rock_knutne
    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4721703
  • Tiernan
    "The rats are leavin' the sinkin' ship"
  • dwccrew
    Good luck to both. Both were great players in a bad system with a bad coach. Had a better coach been at ND while they were there, I really wonder what this team could have done. Possibly be undefeated had a better coach been in there.

    Both are 1st-2nd round picks.
  • rock_knutne
    Just an FYI, there's no concrete news saying Golden Tate is leaving. I know it's wishful thinking on my part but he may be using that presser to say he's staying.;)
  • newarkcatholicfan
    One will be a stud the other will be a very solid back up.
  • Nate
    Definitely gone. Who wants to stay at ND?
  • darbypitcher22
    I"m pretty sure they're both gone.
  • wonderboy02
    Does this make the ND job even less desirable? You already have a terrible defense and now you have to come into an offense that has to replace 2 of it's 3 best skill position players (and the only reason ND went 6-6 and not 2-10). So you come in and struggle in year one (an obvious rebuilding year) and the target is already on your back in year two (See also: Rodriguez, Richard)?

    If I'm Stoops or Kelly I'm not sure I want to walk into this quagmire. A more desirable job will come open eventually.
  • Goldenboy26
    wonderboy02, add this to the fact that Crist will be out until march/april, I think it is going to make this a tough job to walk into.
  • ytownfootball
    You're obviously not walking into ND expecting to go 12-0 in your first season. New systems on O and D means you'd likely have a different mindset on who would fit the bill at any given position, Tate and Clausen are losses but not something that would prevent one from accepting the job, by any stretch.
  • Mr Pat
    Best of luck to both them at the next level (if Tate goes too)!
  • wonderboy02
    ytownfootball wrote: You're obviously not walking into ND expecting to go 12-0 in your first season.
    The coach may not, but the fans and boosters do. That's the problem.

    Especially if it's someone like Kelly who came in with instant success at somewhere like CIN.
  • ytownfootball
    Nah, they want it but they're realistic enough not to expect it.
  • killer_ewok
    ytownfootball wrote: Nah, they want it but they're realistic enough not to expect it.
    This.
  • thedynasty1998
    No one is going to expect instant success.

    And more times than not, when a coach is fired at a high profile college, it's because the team is bad and isn't improving. So, it's not like Kelly can sit around and wait for a team will a bunch of pieces coming back to step into.
  • rock_knutne
    ND's two glaring issues are on defense and the possibility that Dayne Crist will not be ready for the opening game of the 2010 season. Regardless of who the coach is, Weis left the offensive side of the ball in good shape and the defense has a great nucleus to build around in Manti Te'o. IMO, this won't be like the Willingham firing, ND had no depth what so ever and after Quinn's class graduated it started to show. ND has alot of good players waiting to play, enough to get them through the next three years so the new HC can recruit more depth. Also, implementing a new coaches sytem may hinder a few things but not much, these kids are smart or they wouldn't be at ND.
  • rock_knutne
    ccrunner609 wrote: ND wont win 3 games next year. THeir TV contract might be the next thing that is gone.
    You want to place a bet on that? I'm not talking a huddle vacation either.........how much money do you have to lose?
  • Goldenboy26
    S04 PURDUE
    S11 MICHIGAN
    S18 @ Michigan St.
    S25 STANFORD
    O02 @ Boston College
    O09 PITTSBURGH
    O16 WESTERN MICHIGAN
    O23 @ Navy (NY/NJ)
    O30 TULSA
    N13 UTAH
    N20 ARMY (Yankee Stadium)
    N27 @ Southern Cal

    I think they can get 3 wins outta that schedule
  • Society
    Goldenboy26 wrote: S04 PURDUE
    S11 MICHIGAN
    S18 @ Michigan St.
    S25 STANFORD
    O02 @ Boston College
    O09 PITTSBURGH
    O16 WESTERN MICHIGAN
    O23 @ Navy (NY/NJ)
    O30 TULSA
    N13 UTAH
    N20 ARMY (Yankee Stadium)
    N27 @ Southern Cal

    I think they can get 3 wins outta that schedule
    One would think, but it could get interesting.
  • steel_curtain
    ccrunner609 wrote: ND wont win 3 games next year. THeir TV contract might be the next thing that is gone.
    Mortgage your house, I'll bet the bank they win 3 games. You talk a big game, now put your money where your mouth is.
  • Mr Pat
    Society wrote:
    Goldenboy26 wrote: S04 PURDUE
    S11 MICHIGAN
    S18 @ Michigan St.
    S25 STANFORD
    O02 @ Boston College
    O09 PITTSBURGH
    O16 WESTERN MICHIGAN
    O23 @ Navy (NY/NJ)
    O30 TULSA
    N13 UTAH
    N20 ARMY (Yankee Stadium)
    N27 @ Southern Cal

    I think they can get 3 wins outta that schedule
    One would think, but it could get interesting.
    Ya know, after what we have gone through the past 3 years, I tend to agree with you on that...
  • newarkcatholicfan
    S04 PURDUE-Toss up
    S11 MICHIGAN-Loss
    S18 @ Michigan St.-Toss up
    S25 STANFORD-Loss
    O02 @ Boston College-Toss up
    O09 PITTSBURGH-Loss
    O16 WESTERN MICHIGAN-Win
    O23 @ Navy (NY/NJ)-Toss up
    O30 TULSA-Win
    N13 UTAH-Win
    N20 ARMY (Yankee Stadium)Win
    N27 @ Southern Cal-Loss