Updated APR Scores Released; Kentucky Tops SEC Rankings

• Azubuike24

  

  http://www.kentucky.com/2011/05/24/1751541/all-uk-teams-surpass-ncaa-academic.html
  
  Kentucky's men's basketball program scored a 974 on the APR scale for the 2009-10 academic year, which included the departure of five players to the NBA Draft and another four players prior to the season. Of course, this means that even those players who supposedly "did not attend classes" according to Bob Knight, indeed left the school in good academic standing. Other schools like Connecticut (893 in men's basketball), LSU (905) and Arkansas (895) were penalized with a loss of basketball scholarships.
  
  Of course, the response is that someone must have gone to class FOR these players, because there is no way they attended, but these figures, reports from numerous news outlets during the spring semester last year and from the players themselves state otherwise. As stated in the article, John Calipari is paid an additional $50,000 bonus for men's basketball achieving an APR score of 950 or better for a given time period.
  
  As we all know, the APR system isn't that great. It has flaws, but like the BCS and the NCAA Tournament selection, it's the best system in place and it's what everyone goes by.
  
  Lets also mention that APR scores under the final three years of Tubby Smith's regime at Kentucky were as follows:
  
  2004 - 2005 922
  2005 - 2006 916
  2006 - 2007 941
  
  These are significantly lower than what they have been under Billy Gillispie for two years and John Calipari for a season.
• GOONx19

  

  The UK basketball team had a team GPA of 3.14 for the 2011 spring semester.
• Prescott

  This stuff is irrelevant. It is all about winning and not just at UK.The basketball team could have a 4.0 gpa, but if they don't win games the coach is gone.
• Azubuike24

  

  While true, they wouldn't put a bonus in his contract for 50K if it wasn't important. Maybe it's to appease some alumni, who knows, but it's there and still has to be met. And while this stuff isn't some sort of amazing achievement, it DOES get lost in many of the fly-by-comments that many in the media and from opposing schools make about Kentucky in-regards to academics. Even Eric Bledsoe, the one who many attacked Calipari for even bringing in because of his academic troubles his Junior year of high school, not only completed his second semester last year, did so in good standing. Only Daniel Orton, who many felt was NOT a one-and-done and who was an outstanding student penalized them by leaving before the semester was complete.
• sportchampps

  im impressed i just wonder what classes the one and done players took.
• Laley23

  

  I dont know what a perfect APR score would be, but Indiana and Coach Crean got a perfect APR this year.
  
  Of course, they sucked...so I wish half of them had skipped class so they would be kicked off the team lol.
• Terry_Tate

  

  Laley23;788245 wrote:I dont know what a perfect APR score would be, but Indiana and Coach Crean got a perfect APR this year.
  
  Of course, they sucked...so I wish half of them had skipped class so they would be kicked off the team lol.

  
  I thought you were going to say you hoped they skipped class so they could be in the gym, but you don't even have that much faith in them, haha.
• Azubuike24

  

  Connecticut's APR was under 900, penalizing them two scholarships. Imagine what would have been the feedback had UK won the title and then they released the information? I don't think Connecticut's even got reported by the mainstream media.
• Laley23

  

  Azubuike24;788453 wrote:Connecticut's APR was under 900, penalizing them two scholarships. Imagine what would have been the feedback had UK won the title and then they released the information? I don't think Connecticut's even got reported by the mainstream media.

  
  UCONNs program is an absolute joke.
• Laley23

  

  Terry_Tate;788305 wrote:I thought you were going to say you hoped they skipped class so they could be in the gym, but you don't even have that much faith in them, haha.

  
  lol, I take back the half of them comment. I only have no faith in about 4 MAYBE 5 guys. One has already transferred (Bobby Capobianco, from Loveland, OH). The other graduated in 3 years (Matt Roth), and then Verdell Jones III and Derek Elston will just never be what they should be (Jones) or can be (Elston). Pritchard would be another, but I actually like his toughness, defense, and he knows his role and plays it very well. I feel comfortable when he is on the floor, unlike the other 4 (now 3).
• Big Gain

  Azubuike24;779079 wrote:http://www.kentucky.com/2011/05/24/1751541/all-uk-teams-surpass-ncaa-academic.html
  
  Kentucky's men's basketball program scored a 974 on the APR scale for the 2009-10 academic year, which included the departure of five players to the NBA Draft and another four players prior to the season. Of course, this means that even those players who supposedly "did not attend classes" according to Bob Knight, indeed left the school in good academic standing. Other schools like Connecticut (893 in men's basketball), LSU (905) and Arkansas (895) were penalized with a loss of basketball scholarships.
  
  Of course, the response is that someone must have gone to class FOR these players, because there is no way they attended, but these figures, reports from numerous news outlets during the spring semester last year and from the players themselves state otherwise. As stated in the article, John Calipari is paid an additional $50,000 bonus for men's basketball achieving an APR score of 950 or better for a given time period.
  
  As we all know, the APR system isn't that great. It has flaws, but like the BCS and the NCAA Tournament selection, it's the best system in place and it's what everyone goes by.
  
  Lets also mention that APR scores under the final three years of Tubby Smith's regime at Kentucky were as follows:
  
  2004 - 2005 922
  2005 - 2006 916
  2006 - 2007 941
  
  These are significantly lower than what they have been under Billy Gillispie for two years and John Calipari for a season.

  ''significantly lower"? On average they are about 3.5% lower.
• Azubuike24

  

  Given that the "bad scores" are around 900 or lower, which would be only 10% lower than the perfect score of 100, yes, 3.5% is "significant" in this instance.
  
  Regardless, even if they are .01% lower, perception was that Tubby Smith was a great coach who ran a clean program and kept players out of trouble. Perception under Calipari is that his guys don't go to class and are just using him to make money. Perception isn't reality however, as the scores don't like. The past can prove this point if you look at all of the off-the-court issues Tubby had at UK and what is going on at Minnesota. The proof is in the pudding on that one.
• Big Gain

  I can't think of another comparative where 3.5% is "significant". Maybe you have a list to give us.
• Azubuike24

  

  Simple math.
  
  In-terms of APR...
  
  1000 is perfect. 900 is considered awful. In this case, the 35 point difference is really 35%. I don't know about you, but most would consider a 35% gain or loss to be significant.