Southeast: Round of 32 - (1) Pittsburgh vs. (8) Butler

• reclegend22

  

  This was a great game. Watched every second. It was great because Butler plays so damn efficiently and pure, fundamental basketball. They play "Indiana basketball." I don't know what that means, but they play it.
  
  Both foul calls were absurd for the moment in time that they were called. Absolutely absurd. But I can at least understand the last 90-foot foul. The full-court hook shot has always been Matt Howard's go-to basket. He absorbed it from Dustin Pfeiffer. LOL. That official that called it should be relegated to catch-a-pig contests. I've never seen such a joke.
  
  However...
  
  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• rock_knutne

  dazedconfused;717849 wrote:a bush league ending would have been if neither was called. both were clear (moronic) fouls and were called accordingly

  I don't care either way, all I'm saying is 99% of the time the refs swallow the whistle.
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  ccrunner609;717837 wrote:Do you know anything about basketball? He shot FT's cause they were in the double bonus......if it was a shooting foul he would of got 3 FT's

  
  Yes I do but was playing a card game with the kids and watching the game. Was so consumed with that he fouled that it never even crossed my mind on whether or not they were in the double bonus. My bad.
• karen lotz

  

  sportswizuhrd;717845 wrote:Loved this line about a month ago ago about a Mock version of the field...

  
  
  
  haha yes. I was hoping someone remembered where that post was.
• rock_knutne

  chicago510;717852 wrote:But at what point do you stop calling a clear block and a clear reach in? Under 1 min? Under 30 sec? Clear pandoras box there.

  
  IMO, at the very end of a game.......with seconds left. Again, I don't care but it's a little strange to me that the refs didn't swallow the whistle in both situations, especially at the very end.
• WebFire

  Scarlet_Fever;717826 wrote:Butler looked like it was going to get hosed. Yes the Butler guy commited the foul but the guy was not in a shooting motion. Should not have been a shooting foul. At least that's the way it looked to me. Then for the Pitt guy to foul was an even more stupid move then the Butler guy commiting a foul.

  
  I just assumed it was double bonus.
• karen lotz

  

  rock_knutne;717859 wrote:IMO, at the very end of a game.......with seconds left. Again, I don't care but it's a little strange to me that the refs didn't swallow the whistle in both situations, especially at the very end.

  
  
  I agree on the swallowing of the whistles in late game situations, but only when the calls are questionable. Those were 100% no doubt (stupid) fouls.
• Azubuike24

  

  This was a bush league ending because both teams were incredibly stupid and allowed the referees to come into play.
• ytownfootball

  

  Two stupid fouls and one heady play by Howard. You can't swallow the whistle when the fouls are that blatant, regardless of time or situation.
• september63

  

  Well, they put Butler in. That is kind of admitting you dont know how to do your job.

  CinciX12
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  WebFire;717862 wrote:I just assumed it was double bonus.

  
  I get too one tracked mind to even think of that. Heck it didn't even cross my mind when the guy was only shooting 2 shots and not 3 shots. I was too busy complaining that he wasn't shooting and trying to beat my kids at Phase 10.
• WebFire

  Scarlet_Fever;717870 wrote:I get too one tracked mind to even think of that. Heck it didn't even cross my mind when the guy was only shooting 2 shots and not 3 shots. I was too busy complaining that he wasn't shooting and trying to beat my kids at Phase 10.

  
  Did you win?
• outdoorsman

  You would think the Pitt coach would have been screaming DO NOT FOUL !!!! Another early out for Pitt. They are over rated once again.
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  WebFire;717878 wrote:Did you win?

  
  
  
  Who knows my wife got so ticked that I was cheering for Butler (Pitt losing really screws her bracket) that she quit and made the kids start getting ready for bed. She may have a gambling issue.
• rock_knutne

  karen lotz;717863 wrote:I agree on the swallowing of the whistles in late game situations, but only when the calls are questionable. Those were 100% no doubt (stupid) fouls.

  ytownfootball;717868 wrote:Two stupid fouls and one heady play by Howard. You can't swallow the whistle when the fouls are that blatant, regardless of time or situation.

  
  I've seen worse in tournament games just as close and nothing was called.......just saying.
  
  Besides, IMO, poetic justice would have been to see that game go to OT.
• karen lotz

  

  rock_knutne;717883 wrote:I've seen worse in tournament games just as close and nothing was called.......just saying.

  
  
  You've seen a more blatant foul than the one called against Pitt go uncalled?? Link?
• killer_ewok

  

  Scarlet_Fever;717881 wrote:Who knows my wife got so ticked that I was cheering for Butler (Pitt losing really screws her bracket) that she quit and made the kids start getting ready for bed. She may have a gambling issue.

  
  And you may be sleeping on the couch.
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  rock_knutne;717883 wrote:I've seen worse in tournament games just as close and nothing was called.......just saying.
  
  Besides, IMO, poetic justice would have been to see that game go to OT.

  
  Then those refs should have been fired. Because the Pitt player was hugging the Butler player. So anything worse than that should be called intentional.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  rock_knutne;717859 wrote:IMO, at the very end of a game.......with seconds left. Again, I don't care but it's a little strange to me that the refs didn't swallow the whistle in both situations, especially at the very end.

  
  and if Pitt won, you would be saying the refs stuck around until the final whistle...pitt lost, they suck, just like you rock get over it
• ytownfootball

  

  rock_knutne;717883 wrote:I've seen worse in tournament games just as close and nothing was called.......just saying.
  
  Besides, IMO, poetic justice would have been to see that game go to OT.

  
  Bottom line is if you call the one at mid court with 1.whatever left then you damn well call the one on Howard...the p.s. bottom line is...Pitt makes the second free throw none of it matters...they didn't...they go home.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Because of the situation I was surprised they called either foul. The one on Butler, while technically a foul, was kind of ticky-tack. It was a loose ball and both guys have a right to go for it. When Brown got it Mack tried to back off a bit and Brown ran into him. The foul on Pitt was obvious and should have been called, though I am still surprised they did call it. I don't think they would have called the second foul if they didn't call the first. Of course, the game would have been over if they wouldn't have called the first.
• rock_knutne

  karen lotz;717886 wrote:You've seen a more blatant foul than the one called against Pitt go uncalled?? Link?

  LOL.....link? You're telling me you haven't seen players get mugged at the very end of a close game and nothing gets called.......especially when there's a mad scramble for the ball during a rebound? I don't know what you've been watching but it happens all the time.
• ytownfootball

  

  Cleveland Buck;717902 wrote:Because of the situation I was surprised they called either foul. The one on Butler, while technically a foul, was kind of ticky-tack. It was a loose ball and both guys have a right to go for it. When Brown got it Mack tried to back off a bit and Brown ran into him. The foul on Pitt was obvious and should have been called, though I am still surprised they did call it. I don't think they would have called the second foul if they didn't call the first. Of course, the game would have been over if they wouldn't have called the first.

  
  Mack did try to back off, but the ref that called the foul was down the sideline, when they showed a replay from that angle, Mack clearly appeared to have a hip into him. I think more than anything, that was why he called it.
• rock_knutne

  DeyDurkie5;717895 wrote:and if Pitt won, you would be saying the refs stuck around until the final whistle...pitt lost, they suck, just like you rock get over it

  Nice try retard but if you bothered to read any of the other posts I made in this thread you'd see that I don't care either way. FYI, I don't root for Pitt. It's amazing how you show up when I post, you're a fucking weirdo stalker!
• rock_knutne

  Scarlet_Fever;717894 wrote:Then those refs should have been fired. Because the Pitt player was hugging the Butler player. So anything worse than that should be called intentional.

  
  That may be your opinion but again, it happens all the time at the end of a close game, even in the tournament. Guys getting hacked all over the place for a loose ball.
  
  I'm just saying that I find it strange that the refs didn't swallow their whistles at the end of the game, that's all.