Mark Schlabach can suck my

• SportsAndLady

  

  fucking balls
  

  wrote:In 10 years as the Buckeyes' coach, Tressel has often showed us his teams can't win big games.
  
  On Tuesday night, Tressel showed us he can't win the big news conferences, either.
  
  Tressel, who has guided the Buckeyes to seven Big Ten titles and the 2002 BCS national championship, wanted us to believe that he was different from other successful head coaches.
  
  From his character-based books to his conservative sweater vests, Tressel wanted us to believe that he's a straight shooter who follows the rules.
  
  On Tuesday night, we learned Tressel isn't any different from a lot of coaches in college football. He's apparently more concerned about winning games and championships than following rules and doing things the right way.
  
  In fact, Tressel might be even worse than other coaches who are corrupting college athletics. He won't admit he's wrong even after he has been caught.

  What a fucking joke this article is...acting like Tressel paid millions of dollars to recruits
  
  Oh then there's this gem:
  

  wrote:Tressel committed two of college athletics' cardinal sins: covering up a scandal and then misleading investigators.
  
  Ohio State could have easily terminated Tressel under the terms of his contract.
  
  Instead, OSU's message was clear: Keep beating Michigan and winning Big Ten championships, and we've got your back.
  
  For the record, Michigan's football team hasn't beaten Ohio State in 2,663 days.
  
  But the Wolverines won on Tuesday.
  
  At least they had fired their cheating coach

  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6195223
• thedynasty1998

  

  Umm, article is pretty accurate, and Tressel brought this all on himself. Of course there are going to be guys who completely rip Tressel, and those who defend him.
  
  Tressel lied and continued to lie in his presser. This will get worse before it gets better.
• vball10set

  ^^^ how did he continue to lie in his press conference? maybe he didn't say what you wanted to hear, but where were the lies (and please back your assertions up)? thank you
• SportsAndLady

  

  thedynasty1998;704849 wrote:Umm, article is pretty accurate, and Tressel brought this all on himself. Of course there are going to be guys who completely rip Tressel, and those who defend him.
  
  Tressel lied and continued to lie in his presser. This will get worse before it gets better.

  
  Pretty accurate? Tressel is WORSE than Gene Chizik???
• derek bomar

  

  Umm accurate?
  
  "In 10 years as the Buckeyes' coach, Tressel has often showed us his teams can't win big games.
  
  On Tuesday night, Tressel showed us he can't win the big news conferences, either."
  
  He's 5-3 in BCS games and he stomps UM every year....fucking joke that line is. Also, UM didn't fire RR because he cheated, they fired him bc he fucking sucked. This article sucks, even though what I think JT did deserves bashing.
• centralbucksfan

  thedynasty1998;704849 wrote:Tressel lied and continued to lie in his presser. This will get worse before it gets better.

  
  This is what I dno't get...how do YOU or anyone else know he lied in his presser? You, me nor many know exactly what went down. Believe me, there is more to it than just the emails. I am not defending Tressel, nor condoning what he did. But we are lucky to know 50% of the actual happenings.
  Lying in the press conference..come on. He made a huge mistake, no question. But I find it hard to believe he stepped up to that mic last nite in front of the nation and continued to lie. I don't buy that. He made a stupid mistake. I don't think he is that dumb to compound things.
• thedynasty1998

  

  centralbucksfan;704870 wrote:This is what I dno't get...how do YOU or anyone else know he lied? You, me nor many know exactly what went down. Believe me, there is more to it than just the emails. I am not defending Tressel, nor condoning what he did. But we are lucky to know 50% of the actual happenings.

  
  He said that he was asked for confidentiality when he received the email.
  
  He replied 4 hours later and had two weeks to think it over before the attorney did ask for confidentiality.
  
  If the confidentiality card is the one he wants to play, he comes off as a liar, because he had two weeks to think it over and report it. And to say he didn't know who to talk to regarding the issue is laughable.
• j_crazy

  

  tressel brought this on himself, he will get no love from me.
• dave

  You guys get way too worked up over this. The guy f'd up, he's going to take a beating for awhile, OSU will still play football in the fall.
• centralbucksfan

  thedynasty1998;704872 wrote:He said that he was asked for confidentiality when he received the email.
  
  He replied 4 hours later and had two weeks to think it over before the attorney did ask for confidentiality.
  
  If the confidentiality card is the one he wants to play, he comes off as a liar, because he had two weeks to think it over and report it. And to say he didn't know who to talk to regarding the issue is laughable.

  
  Report what? What someone emailed him with somenthing? I wonder how many emails he gets daily, weekly? Maybe he was looking into it during this time? Again, we don't know the circumstances. He kept mentioning a federal drug investigation, with 2 players involved who would have been in danger. Now, I don't know what to think of this. But if true, maybe he was in fact looking out for their best interest. Again, I don't know, you don't know. Its easy to come to a conclusion based on what we are reading. But again, how much of that is all that went on?
  I'll agree about the comment about who to talk with..no question that was a stretch.
• SportsAndLady

  

  dave;704881 wrote:You guys get way too worked up over this. The guy f'd up, he's going to take a beating for awhile, OSU will still play football in the fall.

  
  I guess what I don't get, is why he is taking such a beating for this and Kelly at Oregon or Chizik at UA isn't taking a beating? I mean if you really look at it, what Tressel did, although yes wrong, was very minor and relatively harmless. Yes, he should have told people about the email, etc. etc. etc. But I mean some of these articles you're hearing from national media outlets are making it seem like the guy just got caught paying Pryor 2 million dollars and is now lying about it and sitting in his press conference going "ha..ha..i'm not sorry for a damn thing, you all can suck it!"
• centralbucksfan

  SportsAndLady;704888 wrote:I guess what I don't get, is why he is taking such a beating for this and Kelly at Oregon or Chizik at UA isn't taking a beating? I mean if you really look at it, what Tressel did, although yes wrong, was very minor and relatively harmless. Yes, he should have told people about the email, etc. etc. etc. But I mean some of these articles you're hearing from national media outlets are making it seem like the guy just got caught paying Pryor 2 million dollars and is now lying about it and sitting in his press conference going "ha..ha..i'm not sorry for a damn thing, you all can suck it!"

  
  I do agree. I am not sure Bush/Carrol got raked through the coals this bad and those offenses were much more serious IMO.
• Go4alOngbOmB

  

  He got his 2 game suspension and 250K fine. This will blow over, as did every other major national college football scandal, and things will resume to normal about the time the Big 10 schedule kicks off.
  
  Also, do these people at yahoo sports and other drudge reporting sites have nothing better to do than train wreck peoples lives? Honestly, how can you go to sleep at night knowing that you screwed a team full of 18-22 year old young men on a nightly basis. All they want is their name on a breaking story, but it ends up screwing the lives of these young men who MOST did nothing wrong.
  
  Prime example, USC. I am pretty sure 95% of that team did nothing wrong, broke no NCAA rules, go to classes, and work hard year round for their team and their university. Yet that 95% gets lumped into punishment of the 5% who cant follow the rules. Worse than that, most of them due to NCAA rules couldn't transfer away from the situation that they had nothing to do with in the 1st place. I in no way am a USC sympathizer, but I see some major flaws in how the NCAA handles these rulings most of the time.
• thedynasty1998

  

  centralbucksfan;704885 wrote:Report what? What someone emailed him with somenthing? I wonder how many emails he gets daily, weekly? Maybe he was looking into it during this time? Again, we don't know the circumstances. He kept mentioning a federal drug investigation, with 2 players involved who would have been in danger. Now, I don't know what to think of this. But if true, maybe he was in fact looking out for their best interest. Again, I don't know, you don't know. Its easy to come to a conclusion based on what we are reading. But again, how much of that is all that went on?
  I'll agree about the comment about who to talk with..no question that was a stretch.

  Report what? I think it's obvious what to report. Why would you even ask that.
  
  He even said this email was different than most he received. He thought enough of it to reply. Who knows what he replied, but he did.
  
  What do you mean looking into it? Looking into it would mean consulting someone. Making phone calls. Not completely ignoring it.
  
  All any of us know if what he stated in his presser and what we have from the emails. And what we have is Tressel trying to save face by using the confidentiality card, when it was not requested in the original email.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  SportsAndLady;704888 wrote:I guess what I don't get, is why he is taking such a beating for this and Kelly at Oregon or Chizik at UA isn't taking a beating? I mean if you really look at it, what Tressel did, although yes wrong, was very minor and relatively harmless. Yes, he should have told people about the email, etc. etc. etc. But I mean some of these articles you're hearing from national media outlets are making it seem like the guy just got caught paying Pryor 2 million dollars and is now lying about it and sitting in his press conference going "ha..ha..i'm not sorry for a damn thing, you all can suck it!"

  
  There's a very easy answer here.
  
  Media -- especially sports media -- don't like people who appear to live their lives with character, and preach to their kids about being good people, citizens, etc. To the media, that's like a challenge: this guy is too good to be real; let's take him down.
  
  And so they've waited and looked, long and hard, to find his flaw.
  
  Well, he gave them a chance to find one and now he's paying for it with (ironically) the same pompous and bombastic rhetoric the media has accused JT of all these years.
  
  Factor in JT's obvious disdain for the media and how he closes off himself and the program from them, and you get what you get -- vile, hateful crap that ignores facts.
  
  This isn't new. Woody Hayes was the same kind of target because of his conservative views, the same way of teaching young men to become good citizens (where do you think JT learned it?) and becoming an icon of sorts when it comes to these qualities.
  
  Where the media couldn't ever really get Woody until he did himself in, you've seen the same thing with Tressel.
• jordo212000

  

  Schlabach did take some liberties and sort of did a little exaggerating, but for the most part his criticism is fair and valid.
• ohiotiger33

  

  Chizik and Carrol werent dragged through the mud because it was boosters giving players benefits and money. This is Jim Tressel messing up with no other people.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  the media is a joke, plain and simple. If I was an athlete, I would dig up some embarrising shit on every media person/outlet/etc. and do my own bashing. Talk about a big ol fuck you
• Con_Alma

  If the media were truly a joke their comments wouldn't bother anyone like they* seem to here.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Con_Alma;704964 wrote:If the media were truly a joke their comments wouldn't bother anyone like the seem to here.

  
  i didn't mean joke in that context...nice try though, douchebag
• wkfan

  ohiotiger33;704951 wrote:Chizik and Carrol werent dragged through the mud because it was boosters giving players benefits and money. This is Jim Tressel messing up with no other people.

  
  Except you cannot tell me that neither of them knew nothing about what was going on with Bush and Newton......
  
  How is it any different than this?
• trep14

  I actually commented on this article on ESPN. I wrote that as a Buckeye fan "I'm ashamed of Jim Tressel's actions and they definitely don't reflect well on the program. That being said, thie article from Schlabach sounds like it was written by a troll on a message board. Crappy journalism." For him to praise Michigan ("at least they fired their cheating coach") was the most ridiculous part of the article imo. The only reason Rich Rod was fired was because he didn't win. Come on Mark. It's apparent he has a little bit of an axe to grind with OSU.
• ohiotiger33

  

  There is not one shred of proof that they knew, sorry. There are emails in Tressel's inbox about that it is plain and simple. We are in an innocent until proven guilty society. Do I think Chizik and Carroll were dirty, YES. But that doesn't make it true. There is no hard evidence like there is in this case. Glad none of you are lawyers lol.
• SportsAndLady

  

  ohiotiger33;704990 wrote:There is not one shred of proof that they knew, sorry. There are emails in Tressel's inbox about that it is plain and simple. We are in an innocent until proven guilty society. Do I think Chizik and Carroll were dirty, YES. But that doesn't make it true. There is no hard evidence like there is in this case. Glad none of you are lawyers lol.

  
  We don't have to be lawyers, you just have to have common sense to understand that dirty coaches are going to recruit players by adding "incentives" in there such as "come to Auburn, you'll have a new car in a week"
• thedynasty1998

  

  Are we really trying to blame the media for trying to find dirt on Tressel?