Buckeyes losing 1st game of B10 Tourney.

• bucks36

  

  Does anybody else have a problem with OSU beating up on Wisconsin Sunday then losing their 1st game of the Big Ten tournament?? Having to play 3 straight days, 4 days before the NCAAs sucks and I for one wouldn't be terribly disappointed if they lost Friday or Saturday.
  
  I know it will never happen and Matta would be crucified for doing it, but I would love to see him play his bench in the Big Ten tourn. and let the starters rest.
  
  Am I an idiot or does anybody else feel the same way?
• ytownfootball

  

  Nah, you play to win. Period.
• bucks36

  

  I know they will play to win but will it be a huge disappointment to OSU fans if they lose? If they beat Wisconsin and lose in the 1st round of the B10 tourney they are still a #1 seed.
  
  Worst case scenario.......lose in finals of B10 Tourn. Agree?
• Fly4Fun

  

  bucks36;696920 wrote:I know they will play to win but will it be a huge disappointment to OSU fans if they lose? If they beat Wisconsin and lose in the 1st round of the B10 tourney they are still a #1 seed.
  
  Worst case scenario.......lose in finals of B10 Tourn. Agree?

  
  Completely disagree.
  
  Losing in the first round would be disappointing as that means they were not playing to their fullest, which would be a bad position to be in just before the tournament starts. Losing in the first round would be worst case scenario in my opinion.
• burt07

  Play to win. They won the tournament in '07 and it worked out for them to get to the title game, where Florida had won the SEC tournament as well. Obviously there have been teams that have gotten bounced early and went on to have tournament success as well, but if it doesn't make a difference why not just try and win?
• believer

  

  Doesn't make any difference. With the exception of mid-major conferences with teams vying for invites to March Madness, I think most post-season conference tourneys are BS anyways. Play the regular season and then hit the Big Dance.
  
  Conference tourneys may line the conference pocketbooks a bit more but other than that they serve no useful purpose besides putting key players at risk of injury.
  
  If Ohio State loses in round one of the Big Ten tourney I'm not going to sweat it too much. In fact it'll give the Bucks some much needed rest going into the tourney that really counts.
• vball10set

  we play to win, but if we lose (but NOT in the first round), it wouldn't be the worst thing...we beat Wisky, we're a lock for a #1 seed, so that's secure--and a couple of extra days rest wouldn't hurt before our title run
• thedynasty1998

  

  Last year, I wouldn't have been disappointed in an early exit, because it could have given Turner a couple games off.
  
  But this year, I think they play to win and get some momentum going heading into the tournament. And although Matta still has as short bench, I don't think any one guy is asked to do too much.
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  On a side note, the OP has my original logo from JJ ... errr, I mean that "other" site.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;696996 wrote: And although Matta still has as short bench, I don't think any one guy is asked to do too much.

  
  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/paul_daugherty/02/28/ohio.st.depth/index.html
  
  
  Pretty much says it all.
• lhslep134

  

  BigAppleBuckeye;697013 wrote:On a side note, the OP has my original logo from JJ ... errr, I mean that "other" site.

  
  YES haha I didn't notice til you said something, then I recognized it right away.
• Iliketurtles

  

  BigAppleBuckeye;697013 wrote:On a side note, the OP has my original logo from JJ ... errr, I mean that "other" site.

  Haha I knew I recognized that avatar from somewhere.
• vball10set

  lhslep134;697048 wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/paul_daugherty/02/28/ohio.st.depth/index.html
  
  
  Pretty much says it all.

  
  excellent article--thanks for sharing
• centralbucksfan

  I wouldn't be to upset of they lost in the semi's. But a lost in first game wouldnt' go over well with me. But there is still something to winning games and keeping the momentum going. I am not sure where I read this, but I remember reading something last year in relation to teams winning conference tournements and how they did in the NCAA. And I dont' believe there was any kind of correlation as far as teams winning conf. tourney, and getting knocked out early in NCAA.
  Bottom line, Matta will play to win, just like any other coach in the country will do. I personally think the "tired" thing is way overrated. It only comes up after a loss. People were all over OSU being tired after the Purdue loss. Well, they sure looked fresh last nite.
• se-alum

  

  These kids are conditioned to play alot of basketball. I want to see them win the B1G tourney.
• sleeper

  

  Let's win championships.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I'm interested in the correlation between winning the conference championship and winning the national title. Anyone have any stats of the last 10 or so national champions and whether or not they won their conference tourney?
• karen lotz

  

  2001 Duke yes
  2002 Maryland no
  2003 Syracuse no
  2004 UCONN yes
  2005 North Carolina no
  2006 Florida yes
  2007 Florida yes
  2008 Kansas yes
  2009 North Carolina no
  2010 Duke yes
  
  6 out of last 10 have won both
• SportsAndLady

  

  Thanks lotz...I'd say it's pretty damn important to win your conference tourney based off that list. 4 of the last 5, and 6 of 10 overall.
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;697197 wrote:I'm interested in the correlation between winning the conference championship and winning the national title. Anyone have any stats of the last 10 or so national champions and whether or not they won their conference tourney?

  
  Bored at work so:
  
  2010 Duke: Yes
  2009: UNC: No (Duke)
  2008: Kansas: Yes
  2007: Florida: Yes
  2006: Florida: Yes
  2005: UNC: No (Duke)
  2004: UCONN: Yes
  2003: Syracuse: No (Pitt)
  2002: Maryland: No (Duke)
  2001: Duke: Yes
  
  So most national champions win their conference tourney except the ACC who can't beat Duke lol. The only non-ACC exception is Syracuse in 2003.
• karen lotz

  

  smh at lep. always a day late and a dollar short.
• karen lotz

  

  SportsAndLady;697221 wrote:Thanks lotz...I'd say it's pretty damn important to win your conference tourney based off that list. 4 of the last 5, and 6 of 10 overall.

  
  
  Yeah unless you are just completely loaded like the Carolina teams its better to have a lot of momentum heading into the tourney.
• burt07

  2010: Duke---Won ACC Championship
  2009: North Carolina----Lost in ACC Semifinals
  2008: Kansas----Won Big 12 Championship
  2007: Florida----Won SEC Championship
  2006: Florida----Won SEC Championship
  2005: North Carolina----Lost in ACC Semifinals
  2004: Connecticut----Won Big East Championship
  2003: Syracuse----Lost in Big East Semifinals
  2002: Maryland----Lost in ACC Semifinals
  2001: Duke----Won ACC Championship
  2000: Michigan State----Won Big Ten Championship
  1999: Connecticut----Won Big East Championship
  1998: Kentucky----Won SEC Championship
  
  
  9 of the last 13 champions have won their conference tournament, with their other 4 losing in the conference semifinals. So yeah, might as well just try to win as much as you can.
• burt07

  And Michigan State (2000), Connecticut (1999), and Kentucky (1998) before that all won their conference tournament as well. So yeah, just win.
• Laley23

  

  You play to win titles. I cant stand the I think we need rest train of thought. It isnt true, and teams all the time are winning both.
  
  Just looking at those lists, of the teams that lost the conference tourney...how many were in the finals, thus not getting any extra rest anyway?