BYU Suspension

• SportsAndLady

  

  Con_Alma;698397 wrote:It's potentially the greatest experience they'll take from being a part of that team.

  
  What??? lololll
• Con_Alma

  SportsAndLady;698431 wrote:What??? lololll

  
  It's potentially the greatest experience they'll take from being a part of that team. After their time at BYU ends they will benefit from it more than other experiences during their time on the team.
• september63

  

  Another interesting tidbit from BYU's honor code. Any unmarried student becoming pregnant is kicked out of the University.
• Con_Alma

  Honor Code Statement
  
  We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men. . . . If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things (Thirteenth Article of Faith).
  
  As a matter of personal commitment, faculty, administration, staff, and students of Brigham Young University, Brigham Young University—Hawaii, Brigham Young University—Idaho, and LDS Business College seek to demonstrate in daily living on and off campus those moral virtues encompassed in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will
  
  Be honest
  Live a chaste and virtuous life
  Obey the law and all campus policies
  Use clean language
  Respect others
  Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
  Participate regularly in church services
  Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
  Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code
  
  Specific policies embodied in the Honor Code include (1) the Academic Honesty Policy, (2) the Dress and Grooming Standards, (3) the Residential Living Standards, and (4) the Continuing Student Ecclesiastical Endorsement. (Refer to institutional policies for more detailed information.)
  
  
  Good Honor Code Standing
  
  Students must be in good Honor Code standing to be admitted to, continue enrollment at, and graduate from BYU. The term "good Honor Code standing" means that a student's conduct is consistent with the Honor Code and the ideals and principles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Excommunication, disfellowshipment, or disaffiliation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints automatically results in the loss of good Honor Code standing. Further, a student is not in good Honor Code standing if his or her ecclesiastical endorsement has either lapsed or has been withdrawn, or if the Honor Code Office has placed a "hold" on the student's records.
  
  All students, upon admission to BYU, are required to observe the standards of the Honor Code at all times, whether on or off campus. When the Honor Code Office receives reports of misconduct prior to a prospective student's admission or readmission, those reports are referred to the Admissions Office for appropriate action. When the Honor Code Office receives reports of student misconduct after admission or readmission, but before registration for classes, the Honor Code Office typically notifies the student, indicating that a "hold" will be placed on the student's registration if the matter is not resolved to the satisfaction of the Honor Code Office by a specified date. The Honor Code Office also reserves the right to place a "hold" on the record of any student based on reports of student misconduct prior to notifying the student.
  Conduct
  
  All students and residents are required to conduct themselves in a manner consistent with the Honor Code. In addition, students may not influence or seek to influence others to engage in behavior inconsistent with the Honor Code.
  
  Students must abstain from the use of alcohol, tobacco, and illegal substances and from the intentional misuse or abuse of any substance. Sexual misconduct; obscene or indecent conduct or expressions; disorderly or disruptive conduct; participation in gambling activities; involvement with pornographic, erotic, indecent, or offensive material; and any other conduct or action inconsistent with the principles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Honor Code is not permitted.
  
  Violations of the Honor Code may result in actions up to and including separation from the university.
  Homosexual Behavior
  
  Brigham Young University will respond to homosexual behavior rather than to feelings or attraction and welcomes as full members of the university community all whose behavior meets university standards. Members of the university community can remain in good Honor Code standing if they conduct their lives in a manner consistent with gospel principles and the Honor Code.
  
  One's stated same-gender attraction is not an Honor Code issue. However, the Honor Code requires all members of the university community to manifest a strict commitment to the law of chastity. Homosexual behavior is inappropriate and violates the Honor Code. Homosexual behavior includes not only sexual relations between members of the same sex, but all forms of physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings.
  Dress and Grooming Standards
  
  The dress and grooming of both men and women should always be modest, neat, and clean, consistent with the dignity adherent to representing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and any of its institutions of higher education.
  
  Modesty and cleanliness are important values that reflect personal dignity and integrity, through which students, staff, and faculty represent the principles and standards of the Church. Members of the BYU community commit themselves to observe the following standards, which reflect the direction of the Board of Trustees and the Church publication For the Strength of Youth. The Dress and Grooming Standards are as follows:
  Men
  
  A clean and well-cared-for appearance should be maintained. Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, revealing, or form fitting. Shorts must be knee-length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles or colors, and trimmed above the collar, leaving the ear uncovered. Sideburns should not extend below the earlobe or onto the cheek. If worn, moustaches should be neatly trimmed and may not extend beyond or below the corners of the mouth. Men are expected to be clean-shaven; beards are not acceptable. Earrings and other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.
  Women
  
  A clean and well-cared-for appearance should be maintained. Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, strapless, backless, or revealing; has slits above the knee; or is form fitting. Dresses, skirts, and shorts must be knee-length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extremes in styles or colors. Excessive ear piercing (more than one per ear) and all other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.
  
  
  Residential Living Standards
  
  As stated in the Honor Code, Brigham Young University is committed to providing a learning atmosphere consistent with the principles of the Church. The university is likewise committed to creating such an atmosphere for students residing on and off campus and between semesters. To achieve this, BYU has established living standards to help students learn some of the high ideals and principles of behavior expected at Brigham Young University. Therefore, the university requires students to adhere to the following applicable standards:
  Visiting Hours
  Helaman Halls
  
  Visitors of the opposite sex are permitted in the lobbies but not in the bedroom area, except during an established open house or home evening time, at which times room doors must remain open. Lobby visiting hours begin after 8:00 a.m. and extend until 12:00 midnight, Monday through Thursday and Saturday. On Friday night, lobby visiting hours extend until 1:30 a.m. Sunday hours are from noon until midnight.
  Heritage Halls
  
  Visitors of the opposite sex are permitted in the lobbies and apartment kitchens but not in bedrooms or bathrooms. Lobby visiting hours are from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 midnight daily, Sunday through Thursday, and extend until 1:30 a.m. on Fridays. Apartment visiting hours are from 10:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. Sunday through Thursday and extend until 12:00 midnight on Friday and Saturday.
  Off-Campus Visiting Hours, Wyview Park, and Foreign Language Student Residence
  
  Visitors of the opposite sex are permitted in living rooms and kitchens but not in the bedrooms in off-campus living units. The use of the bathroom areas by members of the opposite sex is not appropriate unless emergency or civility dictates otherwise, and then only if the safety, privacy, and sensitivity of other residents are not jeopardized. Visiting hours may begin after 9:00 a.m. and extend until 12:00 midnight. Friday night visiting hours may extend until 1:30 a.m. Landlords may establish a shorter visiting period if proper notice is given to students.
  Guests
  
  All guests of students must comply with the Residential Living Standards while on the premises of university-approved housing. Students are expected to help their guests and other residents understand and fulfill their responsibility under the Residential Living Standards and the Honor Code.
  Maintaining the Standards
  
  Violations of these standards may be reported to the Honor Code Office, 4440 WSC, (801) 422-2847, or the Off-Campus Housing Office, (801) 378-5066.
  
  
  Continuing Student Ecclesiastical Endorsement
  
  Students are required to be in good Honor Code standing to be admitted to, continue enrollment at, and graduate from BYU. In conjunction with this requirement, all enrolled continuing undergraduate, graduate, intern, and Study Abroad students are required to obtain a Continuing Student Ecclesiastical Endorsement for each new academic year. Students must have their endorsements completed, turned in, and processed by the Honor Code Office before they can register for fall semester or any semester thereafter. To avoid registration delays, endorsement should be submitted to the Honor Code Office by March 15. Those applying to BYU should use the new-student Admissions Application Part 3 endorsement and submit to Admissions, D-155 ASB.
  
  LDS students may be endorsed only by the bishop of the ward (1) in which they live and (2) that holds their current Church membership record.
  
  Non-LDS students are to be endorsed by (1) the local ecclesiastical leader if the student is an active member of the congregation, (2) the bishop of the LDS ward in which they currently reside, or (3) the nondenominational BYU chaplain.
• Con_Alma

  Former LDS students are not eligible to receive an ecclesiastical endorsement (see Withdrawn Ecclesiastical Endorsement below).
  Requirements
  
  Whether on or off campus or between semesters, all students are expected to abide by the Honor Code, which includes (1) the Academic Honesty Policy, (2) the Dress and Grooming Standards, and (3) the applicable Residential Living Standards. Students are required to be in good Honor Code standing to graduate.
  
  LDS students must fulfill their duty in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, attend Church meetings, and abide by the rules and standards of the Church on and off campus.
  
  Students who are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are also expected to maintain the same standards of conduct. They are encouraged to participate in services of their preferred religion. All students must be in good Honor Code standing to graduate, to receive a diploma, and to have the degree posted.
  Withdrawn Ecclesiastical Endorsement
  
  A student's endorsement may be withdrawn at any time if the ecclesiastical leader determines that the student is no longer eligible for the endorsement. If an endorsement is withdrawn, no confessional information is exchanged without authorization from the student. Students without a current endorsement are not in good Honor Code standing and must discontinue enrollment. Students who are not in good Honor Code standing are not eligible for graduation, even if they have otherwise completed all necessary coursework. Excommunication, disfellowshipment, or disaffiliation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints automatically results in the withdrawal of the student's ecclesiastical endorsement and the loss of good Honor Code standing. Disaffiliation is defined for purposes of this policy as removal of an individual's name from the official records of the Church.
  
  The decision to withdraw an ecclesiastical endorsement may be appealed through appropriate ecclesiastical leaders only. As a matter of practice, BYU does not intervene in ecclesiastical matters or endorsements. In unusual circumstances, however, a student may petition the Dean of Students Office to allow an exception to the ecclesiastical endorsement requirement. As part of the petition, a student must (i) complete an Application for Exception to Policy (this form may be obtained from the Dean of Students Office); (ii) sign a release allowing appropriate university officials to freely communicate with the student's ecclesiastical leaders; (iii) prepare a written statement outlining the reasons why, in light of the student's extenuating circumstances, the university should allow an exception; and (iv) submit the completed application, release, and relevant statements to the Dean of Students Office, 3500 WSC, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, 84602 for consideration.
  
  When considering the petition, the Dean of Students will focus not on the merits of the ecclesiastical leader's decision to withdraw the endorsement but instead on whether the student has demonstrated sufficiently compelling grounds to warrant an exception to the university's ecclesiastical endorsement requirement. In addition to speaking with the student's present and former ecclesiastical leaders, the Dean of Students may also choose to personally interview the student, who may further explain the circumstances which might justify an exception to the ecclesiastical endorsement requirement. The student bears the burden of persuasion that he or she should be considered to be in good Honor Code standing, notwithstanding the lack of an ecclesiastical endorsement. The Dean of Student's decision regarding the petition will be reviewed by the Vice President of Student Life if requested by the student. The decision by the Vice President of Student Life is final.
• september63

  

  THE only thing that is clear is that NO OC member would ever graduate from BYU. I doubt any of us would even be admitted.
• se-alum

  

  The BYU Honor Code seems ridiculous, but the students CHOSE to become part of the University, and therefore chose to live by that code or suffer the consequences. The kid made a choice that goes against the code, and is being punished because of it.
• wildcats20

  

  september63;698450 wrote:THE only thing that is clear is that NO OC member would ever graduate from BYU. I doubt any of us would even be admitted.

  
  I know I wouldn't be admitted.
  
  I would NEVER agree to that "Honor" Code.
• september63

  

  Go to Serious Business and read the thread titled.................Never had a class like this. Tell me how that class would fly at BYU.
• Con_Alma

  september63;698463 wrote:Go to Serious Business and read the thread titled.................Never had a class like this. Tell me how that class would fly at BYU.

  
  The class might be offered but the professor would not be able to carry out what they did at NU. The fact that that Professor did what he did was unique enough even at NU that it made the press. I don't think it would happen at other religious universities either. BYU isn't different in that regard.
• mallymal614

  No sex at BYU? I see why the team has great shooters. The are used to using their hands.
• Mulva

  

  The Equalizer;698366 wrote:Ridiculous that some would pass judgement and call names because they themselves don't have the fortitude to follow through with that level of self denial.

  
  lol Yeah that must be it.
  
  Not that you're passing judgment or anything.
• vball10set

  september63;698463 wrote:Go to Serious Business and read the thread titled.................Never had a class like this. Tell me how that class would fly at BYU.

  
  http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2011/03/03/university-classes-sure-have-changed.html?sid=101
• karen lotz

  

  Saw something yesterday that his girlfriend is the daughter of a trustee of BYU.
• mallymal614

  Try recruiting a player to BYU. "Come play for us and help bring a championship. But one rule....no pu$$y for four years"
• SportsAndLady

  

  mallymal614;698633 wrote:Try recruiting a player to BYU. "Come play for us and help bring a championship. But one rule....no pu$$y for four years"

  
  It's not like the Honor Code was implemented this week
• CinciX12

  

  mallymal614;698633 wrote:Try recruiting a player to BYU. "Come play for us and help bring a championship. But one rule....no pu$$y for four years"

  
  Or coffee while actually trying to be a 'student'-athlete and studying for a final lol.
• Tiger2003

  

  CinciX12;698662 wrote:Or coffee while actually trying to be a 'student'-athlete and studying for a final lol.

  
  Come one now...we know they don't take their finals
• mallymal614

  CinciX12;698662 wrote:Or coffee while actually trying to be a 'student'-athlete and studying for a final lol.

  
  lol
• se-alum

  

  SportsAndLady;698654 wrote:It's not like the Honor Code was implemented this week

  
  This. I'm not sure why people are upset about this. The students know what they are getting into when they attend BYU.
• Ironman92

  

  I wish Shawn Bradley and Margo Dydek would get married and have a kid.
  
  He'd probably be a 5'6 black kid with freckles.
• Big Gain

  You haters are aware that the service academies take their honor code VERY seriously.
• CinciX12

  

  Big Gain;698988 wrote:You haters are aware that the service academies take their honor code VERY seriously.

  
  Why exactly did you just call someone a 'hater'? Because we think that BYU is insane for their outdated and unrealistic expectations concerning anything based in reality?
  
  LDS and any of the armed forces have zero to do with one another.
• karen lotz

  

  LOL at saying LDS is outdated and unrealistic. It isn't for everyone. If you choose to accept a scholarship at BYU, you have to live by the Honor Code. If that isn't for you, there are 300 other Division 1 basketball teams out there.
• Con_Alma

  Big Gain;698988 wrote:You haters are aware that the service academies take their honor code VERY seriously.

  
  
  Yeah, that's an understatement. They are fanatical about it and are expected and required to turn others in who break it. If caught not doing so, they are viewed the same as if they themselves violated it with a similar offense.