This Week in the Big Ten: 3/1

• Azubuike24

  

  As of now, Illinois, Michigan and Michigan State are tied at 9-9. Penn State can join them. Here is the scenario.
  
  3-teams (Michigan, Michigan State, Illinois) - Michigan is 2-1, Michigan State is 1-3, Illinois is 2-1
  
  4-teams (Michigan, Michigan State, Illinois, Penn State) - Michigan is 4-1, Michigan State is 2-4, Illinois is 3-2, Penn State is 2-4
  
  B. Multiple team tie:
  
  1. Results of head-to-head competition during the regular-season. a. When comparing records against the tied teams, the team with the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0).
  
  b. After the top team among the tied teams is determined, the second team is ranked by its record among the original tied teams, not the head-to-head record vs. the remaining team(s).
  
  2. If the remaining teams are still tied, then each tied team's record shall be compared to the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season standings, continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
  
  a. When arriving at another pair of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to their own tie-breaking procedures), rather than the performance against the individual tied teams.
  
  b. When comparing records against a single team or group of teams, the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0).
• Azubuike24

  

  Yep, the 4/5 won't really matter although technically one team will be home and the other road. The way I read that, is if Penn State wins, they end up going down the line against the top team and moving down the standings.
  
  Both teams were 0-2 against Purdue and 1-1 against Wisconsin, while Penn State was 0-2 against Ohio State and Michigan State was 0-1 against Ohio State. The way I read that, is all of those would be tied in winning percentage and the ties would then start into head to heads against the 4 and 5 seeds. Both were 0-2 against Michigan (if they finish 4th), so the tiebreaker would be against Illinois either way, and both are 1-1 against Illinois. Skip 6 and 7 because that is these 2 teams, and we move to records against the 8th seed (Northwestern). Both were 2-0 against the Wildcats, so it would be win% against Minnesota (#9 seed). Both teams were unbeaten against Minnesota (Penn State 1-0, MSU 2-0) so we'd move onto Iowa. Michigan State lost to Iowa (and beat them), while Penn State was 1-0 against them.
  
  Thus, Penn State would win the tiebreaker on like the 12th tiebreaker (if I read that right).
• osu45804

  

  Iowa hanging in there .. up 4 vs Purdue
• osu45804

  

  Iowa up 3 with 3:30 left
• krambman

  

  Iowa hangs on to win. Students rush the court. Knock off Purdue.
  
  Ohio State Buckeyes are 2010-2011 outright Big Ten Champions!
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Purdue mailed this one in with nothing really to play for, and you can't do that in this league. Iowa has now beaten Alabama, Northern Iowa, Michigan State, and Purdue. They are young and inconsistent, but not a bad team.
• krambman

  

  Cleveland Buck;700430 wrote:Purdue mailed this one in with nothing really to play for, and you can't do that in this league. Iowa has now beaten Alabama, Northern Iowa, Michigan State, and Purdue. They are young and inconsistent, but not a bad team.

  
  Are you new? Before this they were probably the next team to move up to a #1 seed if they won out and they could have shared the Big Ten regular season title with OSU if they Buckeyes lose tomorrow to Wisconsin (a very real possibility since that already happened once this season). They had a TON to play for today.
• burt07

  Yeah I'm not quite getting how Purdue had nothing to play for. If they won today they might have been about guaranteed a 2 seed in the Big Dance, they probably would have only had to win 1 game in the Big Ten Tournament. Now they're probably on the border for a 2 with it being such a bad loss.
• dave

  Azubuike24;700367 wrote:Yep, the 4/5 won't really matter although technically one team will be home and the other road. The way I read that, is if Penn State wins, they end up going down the line against the top team and moving down the standings.
  
  Both teams were 0-2 against Purdue and 1-1 against Wisconsin, while Penn State was 0-2 against Ohio State and Michigan State was 0-1 against Ohio State. The way I read that, is all of those would be tied in winning percentage and the ties would then start into head to heads against the 4 and 5 seeds. Both were 0-2 against Michigan (if they finish 4th), so the tiebreaker would be against Illinois either way, and both are 1-1 against Illinois. Skip 6 and 7 because that is these 2 teams, and we move to records against the 8th seed (Northwestern). Both were 2-0 against the Wildcats, so it would be win% against Minnesota (#9 seed). Both teams were unbeaten against Minnesota (Penn State 1-0, MSU 2-0) so we'd move onto Iowa. Michigan State lost to Iowa (and beat them), while Penn State was 1-0 against them.
  
  Thus, Penn State would win the tiebreaker on like the 12th tiebreaker (if I read that right).

  lmao if you are right, which it sounds right, that is unreal.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Purdue had something to play for, but the difference between a 2 and a 3 seed in the tournament doesn't mean all that much, and they probably came in thinking that Iowa is a bottom feeder and let's get this over with and get to the Big Ten tournament. Iowa is a bottom feeder compared to Big Ten teams, but they aren't bad, and you will lose if you don't come in there focused.
• ytownfootball

  

  Matt Painter probably had B1G coach of the year sewn up prior to this game, but this has to sting. Iowa will be so much better in the next few years, they are looking for a return to the Keady days and it's just around the corner imo. Can't come out flat and uninspired in league play, especially away from home.
• dave

  Cleveland Buck;700463 wrote:Purdue had something to play for, but the difference between a 2 and a 3 seed in the tournament doesn't mean all that much, and they probably came in thinking that Iowa is a bottom feeder and let's get this over with and get to the Big Ten tournament. Iowa is a bottom feeder compared to Big Ten teams, but they aren't bad, and you will lose if you don't come in there focused.

  
  Purdue possibly could have been the #1 seed in Big 10 tourney, which in a conference with only 3 great teams is huge. As said earlier, they also had a great shot at a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney if a couple things went their way. They just got beat, Iowa is pretty decent at home playing OSU, Wisconsin, and Michigan down to the wire and crushing MSU.
• dave

  I want to see as many big 10 teams in the tourney as possible, but there is no way MSU should get in. The only reason will be Izzo which is sad. Their best road win was Minnesota at the end of the year when they had fallen apart.
• Mulva

  

  Cleveland Buck;700430 wrote:They are young and inconsistent, but not a bad team.

  
  Yes they are. 11-19 (4-14) is not inconsistent. It's consistently bad.
• krambman

  

  dave;700477 wrote:I want to see as many big 10 teams in the tourney as possible, but there is no way MSU should get in. The only reason will be Izzo which is sad. Their best road win was Minnesota at the end of the year when they had fallen apart.

  
  If MSU makes a run to the Big Ten Championship game then they should get into the tourney, but that isn't likely to happen. If they get in, and that's a big IF right now, they should be playing in one of the "First Four" games as one of the last four at-large teams in the tournament.