Way-Too-Early Top 25 for 2011

• Jester

  

  1. Oklahoma
  2. Alabama
  3. Oregon
  4. LSU
  5. Boise State
  6. Oklahoma State
  7. Florida State
  8. Arkansas
  9. Stanford
  10. Ohio State
  11. South Carolina
  12. Wisconsin
  13. Texas A&M
  14. Notre Dame
  15. Michigan State
  16. Missouri
  17. Auburn
  18. TCU
  19. Nebraska
  20. Virginia Tech
  21. Arizona State
  22. Texas
  23. Florida
  24. Mississippi State
  25. West Virginia
  
  Who's to low? Who's to high? Surprises? What say you Chatter nation.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6009707
• gerb131

  

  Well ya don't have Michigan ranked so your list is on the right track.
  But Oh St 10, is that you Herbie?
• Tiger2003

  

  gerb131;635864 wrote:Well ya don't have Michigan ranked so your list is on the right track.
  But Oh St 10, is that you Herbie?

  
  The voters will take into consideration the 5 players suspended for tOSU when they rank them in the pre-season. If Ohio State can get through whatever amount of games they are suspended they will move up in the polls.
• vball10set

  gerb131;635864 wrote:But Oh St 10, is that you Herbie?

  
  if they run the table, they'll be in the NC
• KnightRyder

  

  FSU way to high
• cats gone wild

  Well, #3 or #4 will drop after week 1. LSU and Oregon play (yeah LSU schedules tough OC games ) against each other week 1, in which I see LSU winning. LSU has 18 returning starters while Oregon loses a good amount.
  Bama, Ok St, and Ark are too high. Bama is the new media darling. Ark is losing Mallet.
  OSU should move up. ND??????seriously?
  Is TCU losing alot?
  FSU.......ROGL!!
• Jester

  

  I'm surprised no one mentioned Arizona State. That's the first thing that popped out to me. Why in the hell would a team that finished .500 with a sub .500 conference record deserve to be in the top 25?
• Tobias Fünke

  

  The FSU ranking is a bit premature, but I could see them finishing there. The Arkansas ranking is laughable.
  
  They are giving Brian Kelly a shitload of respect for developing his offense and improvement from year one to year two. No way in hell they should be ranked higher than #18. I'd put them at #21.
  
  Ohio State should be #6.
• se-alum

  

  cats gone wild;635909 wrote:Well, #3 or #4 will drop after week 1. LSU and Oregon play (yeah LSU schedules tough OC games ) against each other week 1, in which I see LSU winning. LSU has 18 returning starters while Oregon loses a good amount.
  Bama, Ok St, and Ark are too high. Bama is the new media darling. Ark is losing Mallet.
  OSU should move up. ND??????seriously?
  Is TCU losing alot?
  FSU.......ROGL!!

  As long as they don't have to travel above the Mason-Dixon line!!
• gerb131

  

  Tiger2003;635868 wrote:The voters will take into consideration the 5 players suspended for tOSU when they rank them in the pre-season. If Ohio State can get through whatever amount of games they are suspended they will move up in the polls.

  
  I know I was just bustin his chops.
• cats gone wild

  se-alum;635968 wrote:As long as they don't have to travel above the Mason-Dixon line!!

  
  Oh, thats right. The tough teams are from above that line and playing games in Aug-sept up there are like playing in Antarctica.
  LSU has scheduled better OOC games this year and next than anyone who is a big name program. (to go along with playing a brutal SEC schedule). LSU aint afraid to play whoever.
• karen lotz

  

  ccrunner609;636107 wrote:you have ND at 14..................LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

  
  
  It isn't his top 25.
• karen lotz

  

  ccrunner609;636127 wrote:that doesnt matter, ND that high is a joke

  
  
  Yep, it probably isn't where they will be ranked (if they are at all) in the preseason polls. This poll is out 8 months before the season starts. It doesn't matter. The weird thing is that you comment only on Notre Dame. Why is that? If you hate them and they suck, why do you constantly have to comment about them? That doesn't seem healthy.
• dwccrew

  

  This is the worst list I have ever seen. What the hell is this guy smoking?
• bigkahuna

  cats gone wild;636095 wrote:Oh, thats right. The tough teams are from above that line and playing games in Aug-sept up there are like playing in Antarctica.
  LSU has scheduled better OOC games this year and next than anyone who is a big name program. (to go along with playing a brutal SEC schedule). LSU aint afraid to play whoever.

  
  When was the last time an SEC team traveled to someone's place for a big OCC game? Last year they played WVU in Baton Rouge. When is the return trip? When will be the return trip to Eugene?
  
  OSU 2002 (That's as far back as ESPN goes)
  vs. Texas Tech 2002
  vs. WSU 2002
  @UC 2002
  vs. Washington 2003
  vs. NCST 2003
  vs. UC 2004
  @ NCST 2004
  vs. Texas 2005
  @ Texas 2006
  vs. UC 2006
  @ Washington 2007
  @ USC 2008
  vs. USC 2009
  vs. Miami 2010-play @ Miami in 2011
  
  LSU
  @ VT 2002
  @AZ 2003
  vs. Oregon State 2004
  @ ASU 2005
  vs. AZ 2006
  vs. VT 2007
  @Washington 2009
  vs. UNC 2010
  vs. WVU 2010
  
  It's kind of a given that teams in the SEC don't leave for OOC games. It's a lot tougher to do that than have everyone come to you.
• Red_Skin_Pride

  

  Catsgonewild,
  TCU loses Dalton, Carder and another good defender, but they're to the point that they have found their niche in Texas and the midwest and are getting some really solid kids to come in year after year. Add to the fact that they are about to join a conference that gives them AQ status, and they'll have no trouble landing some top-flight recruits in the near future. A lot of kids shy away from midmajors because you can go 12-1 in the MWC and get left out of a BCS game. If you go 11/12-1 in the bigeast, you're going to a BCS game. That's a huge advantage that they've not had since the old SWC days. To answer your question, I think this list has them too low. As of right now, I'd put them at about 10, OSU at 7, and FSU at 18. Until FSU proves they can win enough games to get them back to the BCS, they are too high.
  
  Also, Oregon and Alabama should be switched (Oregon at #2, Alabama at 3). Oregon returns basically everyone on offense and several very good defenders (whole secondary). Alabama loses Ingram and 8+ year (lol) starting QB Greg McElroy and Julio Jones. The only proven offensive threat they have returning is Richardson.
• cats gone wild

  bigkahuna;636358 wrote:When was the last time an SEC team traveled to someone's place for a big OCC game? Last year they played WVU in Baton Rouge. When is the return trip? When will be the return trip to Eugene?
  

  To answer your question, they play @ WVU this year for the "return trip". And LSU plays Oregon in Texas. There's 2 games on the road against tough OOC teams.
• cats gone wild

  Red_Skin_Pride;636383 wrote:Catsgonewild,
  
  
  Also, Oregon and Alabama should be switched (Oregon at #2, Alabama at 3). Oregon returns basically everyone on offense and several very good defenders (whole secondary). Alabama loses Ingram and 8+ year (lol) starting QB Greg McElroy and Julio Jones. The only proven offensive threat they have returning is Richardson.

  I thought I read Oregon has alot of spots to fill?
  
  "The Ducks will have to replace a lot of talent on both sides of the ball in 2011, but they'll still have several key pieces back from the team that played Auburn in Monday night's Tostitos BCS National Championship Game. Coach Chip Kelly has installed a winning formula in Eugene, Ore., and quarterback Darron Thomas and tailback LaMichael James will give the Ducks a chance to outscore any opponent. Oregon will have to replace three starting offensive linemen, along with leading receivers Jeff Maehl and D.J. Davis. The losses are heavy on defense, too, with tackles Brandon Bair and Zac Clark, end Kenny Rowe, linebackers Casey Matthews and Spencer Paysinger and cornerback Talmadge Jackson III departing. Oregon plays only four true road games in 2011, along with a much-anticipated neutral-site contest against LSU in Arlington, Texas."
• OQB

  

  It's just like when OSU played LSU in the national championship in NEW ORLEANS!
  
  Our definition of neutral is a lot different than college football's definition of neutral.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  ccrunner609;636127 wrote:that doesnt matter, ND that high is a joke

  
  Why is that? I've already said they shouldn't be that highly ranked, but why do you think that? I'm seriously intrigued.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  OrrvilleQB;636458 wrote:It's just like when OSU played LSU in the national championship in NEW ORLEANS!
  
  Our definition of neutral is a lot different than college football's definition of neutral.

  If you think OSU lost that game because it was a "home" game for LSU, then you need to stop snorting the sprinkles at work. C'mon man you know more than that.
• enigmaax

  Red_Skin_Pride;636383 wrote:That's a huge advantage that they've not had since the old SWC days.

  
  .....where they had five winning seasons in 30+ years.
• cats gone wild

  ccrunner609;636448 wrote:LSU playing Oregon in Texas.........thats a home game for LSU. GTFOH/

  A home game? This stuff is getting so old. Its not even in their own state idiot, so how's it a home game. This game is 100% neutral. I dont see OSU or any other top team scheduling the #3 team in the nation at the last minute. Let me guess, Auburn had a home game to when they played Oregon? You must of just gotten done running 10 miles and the blood's not flowing to your brain. Stick to cc and let men talk football.
• cats gone wild

  bigkahuna;636358 wrote:When was the last time an SEC team traveled to someone's place for a big OCC game? Last year they played WVU in Baton Rouge. When is the return trip? When will be the return trip to Eugene?
  
  OSU 2002 (That's as far back as ESPN goes)
  vs. Texas Tech 2002
  vs. WSU 2002
  @UC 2002
  vs. Washington 2003
  vs. NCST 2003
  vs. UC 2004
  @ NCST 2004
  vs. Texas 2005
  @ Texas 2006
  vs. UC 2006
  @ Washington 2007
  @ USC 2008
  vs. USC 2009
  vs. Miami 2010-play @ Miami in 2011
  
  LSU
  @ VT 2002
  @AZ 2003
  vs. Oregon State 2004
  @ ASU 2005
  vs. AZ 2006
  vs. VT 2007
  @Washington 2009
  vs. UNC 2010
  vs. WVU 2010
  
  It's kind of a given that teams in the SEC don't leave for OOC games. It's a lot tougher to do that than have everyone come to you.

  
  I forgot to ask earlier, but what does OSU have to do with my post......or about LSU having tougher games in 2010-11?
• dat dude

  cats gone wild;636403 wrote:To answer your question, they play @ WVU this year for the "return trip". And LSU plays Oregon in Texas. There's 2 games on the road against tough OOC teams.

  
  Playing Oregon at Texas is not a "road" game.
  
  But there is no doubt their schedule is extremely difficult.