Columbus gets "Little Sisters" billboards

• se-alum

  

  Here's my thoughts on the whole thing. Gee should've never said what he did, however, he never said TCU couldn't be a BCS conference team, he just said that they don't have to endure the weekly grind of the top conference teams. I took his comments to mean TCU was a good team that played weak competition, which in reality is true.
• killer_ewok

  

  se-alum;629436 wrote:Here's my thoughts on the whole thing. Gee should've never said what he did, however, he never said TCU couldn't be a BCS conference team, he just said that they don't have to endure the weekly grind of the top conference teams. I took his comments to mean TCU was a good team that played weak competition, which in reality is true.

  His "Little Sisters of the Poor" comments came across as VERY condescending and if I had to guess.....that's the main reason for the big shitburger that he's being served. Had he just said what you said.....the backlash would not be so bad. However, he got cute with it and now it's being shoved in his face.
• se-alum

  

  killer_ewok;629442 wrote:His "Little Sisters of the Poor" comments came across as VERY condescending and if I had to guess.....that's the main reason for the big shitburger that he's being served. Had he just said what you said.....the backlash would not be so bad. However, he got cute with it and now it's being shoved in his face.

  
  Completely agree. He definitely deserves any backlash he's getting.
• Automatik

  

  Hb31187;629108 wrote:Lol Buckeye fans can sure dish it out, but a little good natured poking fun at someone in the OSU family and panties are bunched all over

  
  lol....I don't see any panties bunched. The billboards would be better suited in Madison.
• darbypitcher22

  

  not a big deal IMO
• jordo212000

  

  enigmaax;629210 wrote:The billboards are kind of funny, but TCU didn't prove Gee wrong in any way. The argument against TCU (more like Boise) has always been that they only have to win one or two big games a year and BCS/AQ schools have to win several more (tougher) games in back to back weeks with more of those on the road. So, how does TCU's one big game win this year on a neutral field after a month to prepare disprove any of Gee's sentiment?

  If Gee and you still think their schedule is a joke, then let's see it on the field in a playoff. Gee is such a turd. But whoops, Gee doesn't want to see that. TCU and Boise are benefiting from the system right now. If they go undefeated, beat one or two "BCS" schools during a season and look pretty good doing it, then they will be in a BCS game.
  
  If Gee doesn't like it, then help set up a playoff and see if TCU really is a product of their schedule. (He won't) OR he can continue to belittle schools like TCU and Boise who have been making a living out of beating AQ schools and hope that morons around the country who do not watch the games, will just take him at his word
• enigmaax

  jordo212000;629473 wrote:If Gee and you still think their schedule is a joke, then let's see it on the field in a playoff. Gee is such a turd. But whoops, Gee doesn't want to see that. TCU and Boise are benefiting from the system right now. If they go undefeated, beat one or two "BCS" schools during a season and look pretty good doing it, then they will be in a BCS game.
  
  If Gee doesn't like it, then help set up a playoff and see if TCU really is a product of their schedule. (He won't) OR he can continue to belittle schools like TCU and Boise who have been making a living out of beating AQ schools and hope that morons around the country who do not watch the games, will just take him at his word

  
  Obviously I have no say in whether there is a playoff or not. In absence of that, TCU's schedule is what it is and Gee was right about it. And you are right, within the system, TCU benefits greatly when they beat all the teams on their crappy schedule and if they don't then they go to an appropriate junk bowl just like Boise State this season. The laughable part, I think, is the talk about being deserving of one of only two spots that are available RIGHT NOW. You can keep clamoring for a playoff all you want, but it doesn't change the state of today's game and there have never been any circumstances up to this point that a non-AQ team deserved to be in the title game over any of that game's participants.
  
  The issue is pretty much going to die now, anyway. The whole underdog story had been gaining so much steam because Utah, Boise State, and now TCU have all put together undefeated regular seasons (you can also throw in a general respect for BYU's program, even though they haven't had the same success). Now that three of the four have joined the darkside, Boise can go undefeated for ten years and it isn't going to be the same sympathetic symbol for the little guy. And there's still going to be no need for a playoff.
• ts1227

  

  hoops23;629279 wrote:Exactly. TCU basically said Gordon Gee was right when they made this move.

  
  How so? They didn't join the Big East in order to improve their schedule (which was Gee's gripe), it's the Big East for fuck's sake. They joined because they know it's the only way to have a shot at anything higher than #3, and/or still be able to get a BCS game if they lose a game or two because they would still win the conference... because that's just how Division I works, plus no other conference wants them.
  
  They're just playing the retarded system. Since the travel is almost the same compared to where they are, might as well.
• Be Nice

  Hey, I'm all for creating jobs and boosting the economy. We should thank the " TCU clown" for accomplishing this.
• sportchampps

  what awaste of money
• Bigdogg

  TCU would have lost at least 3 games if they played a Big-10 schedule this year.
• jordo212000

  

  Bigdogg;629641 wrote:TCU would have lost at least 3 games if they played a Big-10 schedule this year.

  
  um? Did you watch the bowl games this year? The Big 10 was baaad. I sense that you are a homer
• jordo212000

  

  enigmaax;629524 wrote: never been any circumstances up to this point that a non-AQ team deserved to be in the title game over any of that game's participants.

  
  There have been more than a few instances where a non-AQ or even AQ team (Auburn) has finished undefeated and was not given a chance to play for the title. Who are you to say who is deserving and who isn't? For all we know, Auburn or Oregon could get stomped and prove that they weren't national championship caliber.
• dtdtim

  jordo212000;629667 wrote:For all we know, Auburn or Oregon could get stomped and prove that they weren't national championship caliber.

  
  Auburn or Oregon possibly getting stomped doesn't mean TCU deserved to be in the title game over either of those teams.
• jordo212000

  

  dtdtim;629689 wrote:Auburn or Oregon possibly getting stomped doesn't mean TCU deserved to be in the title game over either of those teams.

  
  No but their talent, performance, and unblemished record would suggest that they deserved it.
• DTM04

  Some of you guys are hilarious. I'm as much of an Ohio State fan as anyone else, but to continue to defend Gee with comments like "TCU's schedule is what it is and Gee was right about it" makes you look foolish. Their schedule strength turned out to be barely worse than Ohio State's this year. In other years, his comments may have been closer to valid, though still incredibly arrogant. Ohio State's best wins were over 7-5 Miami and 7-5 Iowa. The only time they faced a team better than 7-5 was Wisconsin...the same team TCU limited to 19 points. To continue and try to prove a point about TCU this year is a ridiculous at this point. Gee stuck his foot in his mouth and if one TCU grad wants to waste his money on a bunch of mildly amusing billboards, then good for him.
• jordo212000

  

  DTM04;629701 wrote:Some of you guys are hilarious. I'm as much of an Ohio State fan as anyone else, but to continue to defend Gee with comments like "TCU's schedule is what it is and Gee was right about it" makes you look foolish.

  
  Or when they say things like: "TCU would finish with 3 losses in the Big 10!!!" haha. Say what you will about them playing for the National Championship, but I think you would have to be among the dumbest sports fans on Earth to suggest that they would lose 3 Big 10 games this past season.
• enigmaax

  jordo212000;629667 wrote:There have been more than a few instances where a non-AQ or even AQ team (Auburn) has finished undefeated and was not given a chance to play for the title. Who are you to say who is deserving and who isn't? For all we know, Auburn or Oregon could get stomped and prove that they weren't national championship caliber.

  Auburn or Oregon's getting stomped wouldn't mean they didn't deserve to be in the game. Being in the game is based on what the teams have done up to the point of selecting teams for the game, not based on who you think would win here or there or against a phantom schedule.
  
  As for who has been deserving or not, there's a system in place that determines that. If you want to pick a particular team and say why they deserved it over another, it'd be much easier to back up my point. Obviously, when three BCS/AQ teams are undefeated it is a different conversation. Maybe USC deserved to play LSU or Oklahoma. Maybe Auburn deserved to play USC or Oklahoma. But the Utahs and Boise States didn't deserve it in any year, even when a 1-loss team from another conference made it. A simple side-by-side comparison of wins and their quality bears that out.
  
  If you and I had to finish an obstacle course where you were jumping over hurdles and I was jumping over cracks in the pavement, would I be the better hurdler if you happened to trip on one of yours?
  

  DTM04;629701 wrote:Some of you guys are hilarious. I'm as much of an Ohio State fan as anyone else, but to continue to defend Gee with comments like "TCU's schedule is what it is and Gee was right about it" makes you look foolish. Their schedule strength turned out to be barely worse than Ohio State's this year. In other years, his comments may have been closer to valid, though still incredibly arrogant. Ohio State's best wins were over 7-5 Miami and 7-5 Iowa. The only time they faced a team better than 7-5 was Wisconsin...the same team TCU limited to 19 points. To continue and try to prove a point about TCU this year is a ridiculous at this point. Gee stuck his foot in his mouth and if one TCU grad wants to waste his money on a bunch of mildly amusing billboards, then good for him.

  
  Just to be clear, I'm not an OSU fan or a Big Ten fan. I don't know how many games they would have lost in the Big Ten, but it doesn't even matter. There are teams from the SEC and Pac 10 playing in the title game and deservedly so because of exactly what Gee expressed (though just from a different conference perspective).
  
  TCU may be as talented as anyone in the country. TCU may be able to beat anyone on a given day. But the fact that TCU doesn't prove that with its schedule is TCU's issue. All things being equal, you have to give the nod to the team that did more on the field, week-to-week.
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  TCU is a talented team, I don't think there is any debating that. The question being asked is one that will probably never be answered. See, ANY team can get up for one game. TCU can play its weak schedule (that includes away games at weak locations.....playing at SMU, Colorado State, and Wyoming is a little different than playing at Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin) then put everything into one big bowl game. There's no doubt that TCU can get up for one big game, they've shown that. The question that still persists is whether or not TCU can go through a tough conference schedule. Sure, they beat Wisconsin at a neutral site with a month to prepare...could they beat Wisconsin in Madison and then go to Columbus the next week and beat Ohio State? Well that's still another question, and one we won't find an answer to very soon.
• karen lotz

  

  So the teams they beat in those big games don't have the same amount of time to prepare?
• se-alum

  

  DTM04;629701 wrote:Some of you guys are hilarious. I'm as much of an Ohio State fan as anyone else, but to continue to defend Gee with comments like "TCU's schedule is what it is and Gee was right about it" makes you look foolish. Their schedule strength turned out to be barely worse than Ohio State's this year. In other years, his comments may have been closer to valid, though still incredibly arrogant. Ohio State's best wins were over 7-5 Miami and 7-5 Iowa. The only time they faced a team better than 7-5 was Wisconsin...the same team TCU limited to 19 points. To continue and try to prove a point about TCU this year is a ridiculous at this point. Gee stuck his foot in his mouth and if one TCU grad wants to waste his money on a bunch of mildly amusing billboards, then good for him.

  I don't think anyone is defending what Gee said, it was obviously out of line. However, let's be honest, how many games did TCU have that would equate to going into Camp Randall or The Shoe for a night game. Beating Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl is a far cry from winning in Camp Randall at night! TCU is a great team, but their schedule was what it was, very poor.
• Be Nice

  DTMO4...Are you an OSU fan because you have to be? Did the wife or significant other graduate from there?
• vball10set

  DTM04;629701 wrote:Some of you guys are hilarious. I'm as much of an Ohio State fan as anyone else, but to continue to defend Gee with comments like "TCU's schedule is what it is and Gee was right about it" makes you look foolish. Their schedule strength turned out to be barely worse than Ohio State's this year. In other years, his comments may have been closer to valid, though still incredibly arrogant. Ohio State's best wins were over 7-5 Miami and 7-5 Iowa. The only time they faced a team better than 7-5 was Wisconsin...the same team TCU limited to 19 points. To continue and try to prove a point about TCU this year is a ridiculous at this point. Gee stuck his foot in his mouth and if one TCU grad wants to waste his money on a bunch of mildly amusing billboards, then good for him.

  
  the only thing worse than someone who needs to start out a bash post by saying "I'm as much of an OSU fan as anyone else" is a noob who says it--give me a break :rolleyes:
• vball10set

  http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20110114/NEWS16/101130388/0/images
• karen lotz

  

  Good stuff vball. Did he really not know there was a Little Sisters of the Poor? Nice gesture on Gee's part as well.