Pryor, Posey and the others...OSU Team Apology!!! At today's news conference......

• Be Nice

  the "Big 5" apologized for their actions. Posey even said he looked forward in playing for the Buckeyes next year after his suspension is lifted. So he's coming back? Comments?
• lhslep134

  

  IMO they're remorseful because they got caught. I'm not upset with them for breaking the rules I just figured they'd have more respect for the OSU program and not sell team accomplishment related stuff (which means I'm very okay with Pryor selling his sportsmanship trophy if he felt he didn't want it).
• wildcats20

  

  This according to Archie, heard an interview today...
  
  They went to Tress and asked to meet with Archie. Archie was out of his office until today, Tuesday, he told them they could come in today and speak with him. The 5 guys didn't want to wait until then. So the 5 of them and Archie made arrangements for them to go to his home and talk. Then this presser came after the all that.
  
  I think it is exactly as LHS says. They are only remorseful because they were caught.
• darbypitcher22

  

  what did they wanna talk with Archie about?
• KR1245

  

  darbypitcher22;616292 wrote:what did they wanna talk with Archie about?

  
  thought it was to apologize
• wildcats20

  

  KR1245;616317 wrote:thought it was to apologize

  
  It was to basically say "I'm sorry" to the alumni and former players.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  ccrunner609;616249 wrote:Oh please, everyone is remorseful because they got caught.........human nature.

  
  This x 10000
• Con_Alma

  They should not have apologized. I would have respected them more if the stood tall with the original position that the products were theirs and they had every right to sell them. I think they look controlled and like idiots for having apologized. They were forced to do so and it's not genuine.
• mella

  I know what they did was against the rules but .... If the NCAA wants regular students and athletes treated the same then either all students can sell their own belongings or none can. Can a football player have a garage sale and sell their t.v. and old DVD's? So why does this stop at "game related possessions" that they helped to win? Another stupid rule.
  
  To stay on topic, they broke the rules and apologized, good for them.
• vball10set

  Con_Alma;616624 wrote:They should not have apologized. I would have respected them more if the stood tall with the original position that the products were theirs and they had every right to sell them. I think they look controlled and like idiots for having apologized. They were forced to do so and it's not genuine.

  I know what you're saying, but they apologized because they did something that was against the rules, not because they felt what they had done was wrong. I think they did the right thing in apologizing, but as I said before, it's what they do from here on out that'll make this contrition valid.
• ytownfootball

  

  Con_Alma;616624 wrote:They should not have apologized. I would have respected them more if the stood tall with the original position that the products were theirs and they had every right to sell them. I think they look controlled and like idiots for having apologized. They were forced to do so and it's not genuine.

  
  Their personal feelings on the subject aside, they caused a good deal of collateral damage by what they did. There is literally zero chance of moving forward in a positive direction if some sort of remorse for their actions isn't expressed (if one or all plan on returning). They look like idiots regardless, without the apology, they look like arrogant, self centered idiots.
• ts1227

  

  ytownfootball;616793 wrote:Their personal feelings on the subject aside, they caused a good deal of collateral damage by what they did. There is literally zero chance of moving forward in a positive direction if some sort of remorse for their actions isn't expressed (if one or all plan on returning). They look like idiots regardless, without the apology, they look like arrogant, self centered idiots.

  Exactly. An apology (regardless of where/how it came about) was going to happen, and they look bad no matter what. But to stand up there, be defiant, and pull the "well the rule is stupid and it's my stuff" card would have been the absolute worst avenue to take.
• stlouiedipalma

  Should have let their parents sell the stuff. That's how you get around that particular rule.
• norwalk

  Wow, a lot of perfect people out there. Especially at age 19 or whatever they were at the time. Come on people, they probably knew what they were doing was wrong but unfortunately do to their needs or wants they did it anyway. Kids will be kids and majority of kids make mistakes. The haters will hate regardless if they apologize or not.
• ytownfootball

  

  norwalk;616870 wrote:Wow, a lot of perfect people out there. Especially at age 19 or whatever they were at the time. Come on people, they probably knew what they were doing was wrong but unfortunately do to their needs or wants they did it anyway. Kids will be kids and majority of kids make mistakes. The haters will hate regardless if they apologize or not.

  
  There is a pretty big difference that many of you "apologists" fail to acknowledge that can't go unmentioned, that being the number of people affected. When I fucked up at that age, and I would wager that most are similarly included in this group, the number of people affected was a handful, certainly not in the hundreds of thousands affected by these guys actions. Maybe it's not fair but the fact remains, with the high profile comes responsibility.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  ^^^
  How were hundreds of thousands affected?
• ytownfootball

  

  Fans, bowl promoters, sports casters, NCAA investigators etc. etc. etc.....
• ernest_t_bass

  

  How are fans "affected" by their actions? I think it was stupid, but I am in no way "affected."
• ts1227

  

  ernest_t_bass;616898 wrote:How are fans "affected" by their actions? I think it was stupid, but I am in no way "affected."

  
  Moreso alumni than fans. Most alums never like their alma mater getting a black eye, it can affect their willingness to donate and shit.
  
  No one gives a shit if a fan that never finished high school is "affected", because if they were to be, that would be sad.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  *sigh*
• ytownfootball

  

  Point is ernest, no one had an opinion when you or I fucked up at that age, can't argue the same for them in this situation, you're affected simply by posting on the subject.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  ytownfootball;616904 wrote:Point is ernest, no one had an opinion when you or I fucked up at that age, can't argue the same for them in this situation, you're affected simply by posting on the subject.

  
  I have an opinion, but I am not affected.
  
  I agree with the alumni being affected, especially ones who contribute financially.
• ytownfootball

  

  ernest_t_bass;616926 wrote:I have an opinion, but I am not affected.
  
  I agree with the alumni being affected, especially ones who contribute financially.

  
  Voiced opinions help to mold the opinions of those who are unable to form their own, so in a way you're contributing to the affect...
• charliehustle14

  I was sold on Posey, Adams, and Thomas' apologies. Pryor and Herron...not so much.
  
  I got a chuckle out of the Dispatch today when they were talking about bowl budgets. The NCAA allows players to be given nearly $1,300 in travel expenses and whatever they do not use, they get to pocket. The article went on to say that many of the players found round trip flights for $300. So many of them get to keep nearly $1,000 in unused travel funds.
  
  There's two avenues of thought here. The first one is why on earth did any of these players have the need to sell their shit? You get $700/mo for being a scholarship football player to cover living expenses. Plus you get these extra perks, like being able to pocket the extra money you don't use for travel. If you're sensible with your money, no reason you should only be able to scrape by. Considering other expenses like tuition, books, and food are already cut out.
  
  Two, what the hell NCAA? You allow these kids to be given $1300 for travel and allow them to keep whatever is left of that. Yet they aren't allowed to sell personal property. I see both of these in the same sense. I consider the rings and travel expenses to both be gifts. But at least the rings and gold pants are things that these players were a part of and earned. The travel expense funds aren't something that is earned. So if you're going to suspend these guys for 5 games for selling their shit, then why not be a lot more strict when it comes to these travel expenses? IMO, make these players give back every dime of what they do not spend.
• vball10set

  ^^^This, in a nutshell, is why people are so frustrated with the NCAA. Ambiguous rules, and rules that change with the situation.