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Glenville stressing acedemics?

  • september63
    Ohio State was recruiting 4 Glenville players from this years team. Now indications are they wont be getting any of the four. As all four are having serious academic troubles!
  • Tobias Fünke
    I would wager that you have also had moderate-to-severe academic issues as well.
  • thedynasty1998
    Not surprising. I commend Ted Ginn for what he does and the motive of his "Academy", however, it's not Glenville's fault, and really not the kids fault that they struggle academically.

    Sure there are some that might not put forth the effort needed, but I would imagine the problems start at a very young age and these kids are just behind. I think a lot of the kids Ginn kind of rescues from the ghetto and provides a support base for them, but reality is that prior to many of them probably had other factors they faced that prevented them from getting the proper education.
  • krambman
    ccrunner609;584898 wrote:they are probably passing all their classes at Glenville (social promotion works well doesnt it), getting a pass cause they are football players but cant pass the ACT NCAA clearance house standard. I think its18.

    Or OSU's or the Big Ten's standard, which I believe are higher than the NCAA's.

    And I was going to say the same thing that if they're good enough to play at OSU but can't qualify academically then they'll end up in the SEC without a problem.
  • killer_ewok
    Hoo iz teeching thoughs pour kidz! Acedemics our inpourtent?
  • thedynasty1998
    ccrunner609;584918 wrote:OSU has academic standards for admissions, 23 or higher to get on main campus (this is what I have seen).......but I would bet the farm that the ahtletic department does not apply. The NCAA clearing house standard is all they abide by. most of their athletes arent pulling a 23

    Yea, I hate it when people talk about OSU having tougher admission standards than the NCAA. Yes, they absolutely do, but that rarely applies to football or basketball players.
  • vball10set
    good god, how can you start a thread with the word academics spelled incorrectly and expect an intelligent response? on the OC, that's how!!! :D
  • killer_ewok
    vball10set;584968 wrote:good god, how can you start a thread with the word academics spelled incorrectly and expect an intelligent response? on the OC, that's how!!! :D

    Whut%
  • Speedofsand
    only in OHIO !! right sleeper ? ROTFLMAO
  • vball10set
    ISWYDT ;)
  • vball10set
    killer_ewok;585001 wrote:Whut%

  • karen lotz
    eye theenque awl poasts shud bee spelt leik dis. wudn't itt bee phuney?
  • ytownfootball
    shake my muther friggin' head
  • vball10set
    karen lotz;585006 wrote:eye theenque awl poasts shud bee spelt leik dis. wudn't itt bee phuney?
    lol-this hurts my eyes just looking at it
  • karen lotz
    ewe kan knot reed itt??
  • vball10set
    yup--eye cun reed itt
  • se-alum
    ccrunner609;584898 wrote:they are probably passing all their classes at Glenville (social promotion works well doesnt it), getting a pass cause they are football players but cant pass the ACT NCAA clearance house standard. I think its18.
    I doubt they are getting a pass. Ginn knows what it takes for these guys to be able to get into OSU, and I guarantee he does everything possible to have them ready academically. Sometimes it's hard to change a lifetime of underachievement in just a few short years.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Nice that the academic problems of some young men gives you pleasure.
  • krambman
    thedynasty1998;584937 wrote:Yea, I hate it when people talk about OSU having tougher admission standards than the NCAA. Yes, they absolutely do, but that rarely applies to football or basketball players.

    I'm not so sure about that. It depends on what kind of acceptance policy OSU uses. Some schools use firm baselines and anyone who meets the requirements is automatically accepted and anyone who doesn't is automatically denied (I believe this is called rolling admissions, but I'm not sure, it's been 6 years since I applied to college). Other places have baselines that are more guidelines or recommendations as opposed to firm standards. If this is the type of system that OSU uses then it means that if you scored 23 or higher you generally get accepted or if you scored lower than you generally get rejected, but it's possible to get in for other reasons if you scored lower or to even get rejected of you scored higher. If this is the case then it's not just athletes who can get in with lower test scores, but you'll likely have great musicians, minorities, foreign students, etc. who receive the same type of exemption.

    And I do believe that OSU's admission standards for athletes are higher than the NCAA clearinghouse requirements. We hear all the time about guys who go to MAC school who have Big Ten talents but couldn't qualify academically for OSU. And let's not forget about Darrell Clark who couldn't get into OSU because of academics but was accepted to Penn State. If both schools use the NCAA minimum as their standard then he would have been accepted both places.
  • Pick6
    Um, im pretty sure there was a 5* DB from Glenville who couldn't get into OSU last year, so he ended up going to WVU or the U. So yes, the tougher admissions DO apply to athletes as well.
  • se-alum
    Like others have mentioned, the higher standards do pertain to athletes as well.
  • Pick6
    ccrunner609;585231 wrote:Do you realize that the U has had higher admission standards then OSU for basically ever?

    That could be, I dont know. I could be thinking the U because of Sentreal Henderson. I just know the guy from Glenville last year didnt come to OSU because he couldnt get the grades and ended up going somewhere else. I know WVU was definitely one of the teams he was looking at. Im sure somebody on here can clarify.
  • Pick6
    and that article clarifies that athletes have to meet admission requirements as well..LOL
  • charliehustle14
    I went to high school with Nathan Williams and I know he had to really bust his ass to get the ACT score he needed to get into OSU. He had to take it 3 or 4 times and attended ACT work shops and stuff like that.
  • johngrizzly
    charliehustle14;585253 wrote:I went to high school with Nathan Williams and I know he had to really bust his ass to get the ACT score he needed to get into OSU. He had to take it 3 or 4 times and attended ACT work shops and stuff like that.

    So you're saying that if the #1 recruit in America has like a 2.8 GPA in high school and a 19 ACT Ohio State won't accept him?