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TCU expected to join Big East in all sports

  • ytownfootball
    Heretic;580624 wrote:Uh...they're going to the Big Least, not a big-boy conference in football. The Mountain West of this year would roll that conference's allotment of 4-5 loss "championship contenders".

    The Big East is not a good football conference, I really don't think anyone outside a couple homers who point to recent bowl wins over other AQ's #3/4's argue it, but I do still think the overall quality and depth of the athletes far exceed that of anything TCU has faced in conference ever. It will be interesting, and if they fail to be at the top of the Big East shit pile, will give further credence to those that said they never belonged in the first place.
  • Heretic
    lhslep134;580632 wrote:I see my sarcasm was lost on you as well lol.

    Everyone knows the big east has been a joke in football last couple years.

    Whenever I think of the Big East as being a BCS conference, giving them the ability to steal a good bowl bid from a legit team, I get so choked up with rage that I see red and have too much tunnel vision to recognize sarcasm or anything resembling humor. THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS KILL THE BIG EAST WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!
  • believer
    Iliketurtles;580610 wrote:As for the MWC there is no way they will get AQ status now and it really sucks for BSU because now they are pretty much in a conference just like the WAC hopefully they can join a BCS conference soon.
    I agree. They should join the Pac 10 and let USC, Oregon, Arizona, etc. pin a few losses on these frauds.
  • dlazz
    Heretic;580639 wrote:Whenever I think of the Big East as being a BCS conference, giving them the ability to steal a good bowl bid from a legit team

    DUDE BRO CINCI WAS GOOD LAST YEAR THEY WON THE BIG EAST AND HAD A HIGH POWER OFFENSE THEY WERE SO GOOD OMG THEY COULD WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
  • believer
    Heretic;580639 wrote:Whenever I think of the Big East as being a BCS conference, giving them the ability to steal a good bowl bid from a legit team, I get so choked up with rage that I see red and have too much tunnel vision to recognize sarcasm or anything resembling humor. THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS KILL THE BIG EAST WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!
    I agree. Michigan State deserves a BCS bid far more than a UConn or West Virginia. These automatic tie-in's are serious bullshit. If a playoff system is never going to happen, then some serious changes need made in the BCS system.

    For example, I could live with semi-automatic bowl tie-in's. By that I mean that an auto bid will go to the conference champs provided the champ has enough BCS points to be ranked in the BCS Top 10. If they don't then the bowls have a right to select an at-large team that IS ranked in the Top 10 like a Michigan State this year.
  • ytownfootball
    believer;580661 wrote:I agree. Michigan State deserves a BCS bid far more than a UConn or West Virginia. These automatic tie-in's are serious bullshit. If a playoff system is never going to happen, then some serious changes need made in the BCS system.

    Only two per conference...MSU being the last of the 3 in the BCS means they get left out regardless, even if they were all ranked 1-3.
  • believer
    ytownfootball;580665 wrote:Only two per conference...MSU being the last of the 3 in the BCS means they get left out regardless, even if they were all ranked 1-3.
    Like I said above that rule needs changed.
  • Heretic
    ytownfootball;580665 wrote:Only two per conference...MSU being the last of the 3 in the BCS means they get left out regardless, even if they were all ranked 1-3.

    Which is a bullshit rule. There at least should be a provision that if a BCS conference champion isn't ranked in the top 15 or so of the BCS standings, they forfeit their spot to either another at-large team or a second/third team from a major conference (but with a third team eligible for those cases where a conference has three legit upper-tier teams like, this year, Michigan State at #8 or LSU at #10). The best ACC team is Virginia Tech at #15 and the best Big East team is West Virginia at #24, which is one whole spot above MAC West champ Northern Illinois.
  • lhslep134
    You guys fail to realize you can't get rid of the 2 per conference rule unless you add another BCS game....

    That way all 12 SEC teams can earn their rightful spot in BCS games instead of just 2.
  • believer
    lhslep134;580690 wrote:You guys fail to realize you can't get rid of the 2 per conference rule unless you add another BCS game....

    That way all 12 SEC teams can earn their rightful spot in BCS games instead of just 2.
    That's true. Add the Cotton Bowl and you'll keep the mighty SEC happy. After all, the Cotton Bowl is close enough to the SEC to make it yet another home game for the always speedy and vastly superior SEC.
  • gyea36
    I think it's hilarious and hypocritical that a few days after bashing Gee's criticism of his conference TCU's athletic director decides to leave it for a "better" conference. Talk about making your opponent look right! Gee may have been politically incorrect but boy was he dead on. Boise loses and TCU leaves their conference. hilarious. You think the haters at espn will acknowledge this point with as much passion as they bashed Gee and Ohio State all week? I doubt it.
  • wes_mantooth
    believer;580716 wrote:That's true. Add the Cotton Bowl and you'll keep the mighty SEC happy. After all, the Cotton Bowl is close enough to the SEC to make it yet another home game for the always speedy and vastly superior SEC.

    This is the best post ever on this board....full of truth!!
  • cats gone wild
    Way to go Gordon Gee, make TCU upset so they have to travel across the country for every game to try to make a point that they belong.
  • Iliketurtles
    cats gone wild;580762 wrote:Way to go Gordon Gee, make TCU upset so they have to travel across the country for every game to try to make a point that they belong.
    LOL at this post do you realize how far they have to travel in the MWC right now? It's actually pretty comparable to what they will do in the Big East I will try and find the thread/post that list the distances from TCU to the schools in the MWC and Big East.

    Here is the thread and quote for the distances http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/threads/17224-Big-East-interested-in-adding-TCU-...-wait-what?highlight=East
    Little Danny;500484 wrote:TCU is located in Dallas/Ft. Worth. Unlike the B10 whose members are primarily located in small college towns, the BE has teams in metropolitan areas with big airports hubs. Travel will not be as difficult as you would think.

    Also, TCU currently plays in the MWC. The distance is not actually the much different for them already:

    New Mexico- 693
    Colorado State- 800 miles
    Air Force Academy- @800 miles
    Wyoming- 975 miles
    UNLV- 1,218 miles
    Utah 1,265
    San Diego State- 1,360 miles
    Utah- 1,265 miles

    Louisville-727 miles
    Cincinnati-819 miles
    USF- 918 miles
    WVU- 1,051 miles
    Pitt- 1,070
    Syracuse- 1,327 miles
    Rutgers- 1,373 miles
    UCONN- 1438 miles.

    Finally, and most importantly, the BE has an AQ BCS tie in- the MWC does not. The fact Utah and BYU will be leaving the conference after this season does not help.
  • enigmaax
    lhslep134;580484 wrote:Enigmaax

    Per the bottom of the article:

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    I think the MWC did enough this year to warrant AQ status for the next time it changes (2012). Wonder how the BCS will spin this one....
    Eh, not so sure about that. They still have half their conference under .500 and 4/9 teams with 3 wins or less. It is the average over the four year period. The numbers in the article were posted after last season and they've actually dropped off a bit overall (last year they had three 10-win teams and only two with 3 or less wins). Next year probably isn't going to be anything groundbreaking either. I still don't think they'll make it.
  • goosebumps
    dlazz;580655 wrote:DUDE BRO CINCI WAS GOOD LAST YEAR THEY WON THE BIG EAST AND HAD A HIGH POWER OFFENSE THEY WERE SO GOOD OMG THEY COULD WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP

    No one in Cincy says Bro, and as I recall we lost to Florida in the Sugar by the same Margin that OSU lost to them in the Title game a few years ago... whats the difference?
  • ytownfootball
    I don't like their chances either. I was reading some blog from a Mountain West fan awhile back, obviously biased, but said that though they were closer at present, still didn't stack up enough. They (he, whatever) were however shooting for replacing the Big East, rather than being an addition. I'm not so sure the BCS is going to think that the Big East should be replaced, there is quite the market share there and they certainly are able to spin things to justify that end. Based soley on merit alone as an addition I don't think they'll make it, though it's close.
  • enigmaax
    believer;580661 wrote:I agree. Michigan State deserves a BCS bid far more than a UConn or West Virginia. These automatic tie-in's are serious bullshit. If a playoff system is never going to happen, then some serious changes need made in the BCS system.

    Not going to happen for the same reason that a playoff is not going to happen. Look at the explanation for the existence of the BCS - no where does it say anything about ensuring all teams are rewarded appropriately. If you are the ACC and Big East, why would you voluntarily say, "hey, we'll give up our spot if people don't think our champion is worthy"? And if you are the Big Ten, SEC, etc., you aren't going to piss off the ACC and Big East by kicking them to the curb and ultimately lose the majority dividing line between "big boys" and the rest. As it is, these conferences know how the system is going to work and they'd rather have 1 out of 3 "deserving" teams left out of the money bowls than take a chance on having seasons when they're bumped enitrely from those spots by other conferences, including the crappy conferences.
  • ytownfootball
    goosebumps;580790 wrote:No one in Cincy says Bro, and as I recall we lost to Florida in the Sugar by the same Margin that OSU lost to them in the Title game a few years ago... whats the difference?


    There's your difference.
  • enigmaax
    ytownfootball;580665 wrote:Only two per conference...MSU being the last of the 3 in the BCS means they get left out regardless, even if they were all ranked 1-3.

    It wouldn't necessarily matter that Michigan State is ranked the lowest in the BCS. For example, if OSU was third out of the three they would still get the at-large invitation. The bowls can pick whoever they want once it gets beyond the automatic bid. Basically, OSU beat Michigan State this season without even playing...just by virtue of being Ohio State.
  • enigmaax
    ytownfootball;580638 wrote:The Big East is not a good football conference, I really don't think anyone outside a couple homers who point to recent bowl wins over other AQ's #3/4's argue it, but I do still think the overall quality and depth of the athletes far exceed that of anything TCU has faced in conference ever. It will be interesting, and if they fail to be at the top of the Big East shit pile, will give further credence to those that said they never belonged in the first place.

    Dead on.
  • ytownfootball
    enigmaax;580816 wrote:It wouldn't necessarily matter that Michigan State is ranked the lowest in the BCS. For example, if OSU was third out of the three they would still get the at-large invitation. The bowls can pick whoever they want once it gets beyond the automatic bid. Basically, OSU beat Michigan State this season without even playing...just by virtue of being Ohio State.

    While you are correct, I think they would more than likely skip over OSU given the circumstance. I think there would be too much explaining to do that would not be worth the choice.
  • goosebumps
    ytownfootball;580809 wrote:There's your difference.
    Lol, thats not a difference. That year OSU was the only undefeated team in the country. If UC were undefeated that year they would have been in the title game. IF OSU were undefeated last year they may not have been in the title game either...
  • ytownfootball
    goosebumps;580834 wrote:Lol, thats not a difference. That year OSU was the only undefeated team in the country. If UC were undefeated that year they would have been in the title game. IF OSU were undefeated last year they may not have been in the title game either...

    Ohio State played the best team in the country that year.

    Cincinnati did not play the best team in the country last year, though they were the Big East champion.

    That's the difference.
  • dlazz
    goosebumps;580834 wrote:Lol, thats not a difference. That year OSU was the only undefeated team in the country. If UC were undefeated that year they would have been in the title game. IF OSU were undefeated last year they may not have been in the title game either...

    They were undefeated in 2009 when they got leveled by Florida. (not the title game)