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Everyone being so high on Wisconsin, and MSU/OSU for that matter

  • Little Danny
    Pick6;620775 wrote:right here buddy. if it werent for a missed 39 yard field goal and a stupid play call id be right. but atleast they didnt get curbstomped like alabama did with utah a couple years ago.

    Musberger was bringing up the FG as well. The missed FG was in the 2nd quarter. It was not as if it was in the last 5-10 minutes of the game. Also, maybe TCU would have managed the clock differently, ran different plays, etc. and would have have still finished on top.
  • cats gone wild
    TCU just looked like a better team. They were outgained 50 pounds average on the line, but they were too quick. Wisconsin has been scoring tons of points lately but all it took was a good defense to stop it. This happens all the time. TCU could be a force for years to come. Didnt they just join a BCS conference? I wonder how many years it will take for a TCU or Boise to be in a title game.

    Pick 6, I applaud you.
  • Little Danny
    ^^^TCU will be in the Big East in 2012.
  • cats gone wild
    Thanks, thats what I thought.
  • thedynasty1998
    Yes, the missed FG was big, but it was so early in the game where you can't use that as an excuse. Like what said above, the whole mindset of the play callers changes.
  • darbypitcher22
    The playcalling and time management from Wisconsin is what really did them in.
  • Thinthickbigred
    cats gone wild;579359 wrote:I think people are basing the Wisconsin season on the last 4 games vs. Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, and Northwestern. Do you guys realize they are spanking little sisters of the poor? Before that they barely, I mean barely beat Iowa and really didnt clobber any teams but Austin Peay (whoever they are).
    Wisconsin is only 1-1 vs. ranked teams this year. Whats the big deal about that? And they looked pitiful vs. ASU.
    MSU is 1-0 vs. ranked teams this year.
    OSU is 0-1 vs. ranked teams this year.

    How are these three teams ranked in the top 10? It shouldnt go just by losses, it should go by who they played and their losses. In which NONE of these 3 teams played anyone. This is the big secret on why the B10 has 3 highly ranked teams and no one else in the B10 is ranked. I would like to know the opponents winning % that these 3 teams have faced all year.

    I will let this get heated up for awhile before I take a gander at all the excuses.

    Pitiful.
    aS A bIG tEN FAN AND AN oHIO STATE FAN i CONCEDE YOU SIR ARE CORRECT AND THE bIG tEN IS A FRIGGING JOKE A HUGE JOKE
  • Con_Alma
    The Big 10 is not a joke.
  • Thinthickbigred
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  • LJ
    SHouldn't the undefeated #3 team beat the 1 loss #5 team? I mean, I understand talking shit about MSU, they looked putrid, but Wisky lost by 3 to a team ranked 2 spots higher than them.
  • Con_Alma
    Seems logical to me LJ.
  • Pick6
    I'll admit that TCU really impressed me as well. I've always thought of Boise as the better and more of a contender of the two mainly because of their BCS success..but after tonight, TCU has my approval.
  • thedynasty1998
    LJ;621036 wrote:SHouldn't the undefeated #3 team beat the 1 loss #5 team? I mean, I understand talking shit about MSU, they looked putrid, but Wisky lost by 3 to a team ranked 2 spots higher than them.

    Yes and no. I was really surprised that Vegas had TCU as the favorite, but Wisconsin should never be okay with losing to them. Wisconsin was representing not only themselves, but the entire conference (just as TCU was representing all non AQ's).

    I thought Wisconsin played well, so they shouldn't burden the frustrations of the Big 10 faithful, but when you combine that loss with the others today it makes it that much worse. Whether that is right or not doesn't matter, it's reality.
  • LJ
    thedynasty1998;621049 wrote:Yes and no. I was really surprised that Vegas had TCU as the favorite, but Wisconsin should never be okay with losing to them. Wisconsin was representing not only themselves, but the entire conference (just as TCU was representing all non AQ's).

    I thought Wisconsin played well, so they shouldn't burden the frustrations of the Big 10 faithful, but when you combine that loss with the others today it makes it that much worse. Whether that is right or not doesn't matter, it's reality.

    No team should ever be ok with losing, but like I said, Wisky was SUPPOSED to lose. In other words, they weren't upset today.
  • Con_Alma
    He didn't say that Wisconsin should be OK with losing. He said a #3 team should beat a #5 team.

    I do disagree that Wisconsin and TCU had the ability to represent anyone but themselves, however.
  • thedynasty1998
    Con_Alma;621056 wrote:I do disagree that Wisconsin and TCU had the ability to represent anyone but themselves, however.

    Contracts would disagree with you. Wisconsin went to the Rose Bowl because of their affiliation with the Big 10. It's reality. On Sportscenter tonight, they will be talking about the Big 10's record for the day, and Wisconsin will be included in that.
  • Rotinaj
    The excuses being made in all these threads are hilarious. I don't care what conference does what. This forum was going to be unbearable no matter how these games turned out. The teams that played better won today. PERIOD. The faster people get over it the better.
  • Con_Alma
    thedynasty1998;621062 wrote:Contracts would disagree with you. ...
    Many often do. The day they play, however for anyone but themselves including a Conference is they day they play below their full motivating potential.
  • Con_Alma
    Rotinaj;621073 wrote:... I don't care what conference does what. ... The teams that played better won today. PERIOD. ...


    Amen to that.
  • Prescott
    I think TCU was better than Wisconsin. That doesn't mean Wisconsin isn't a good team because I think TCU is better than a lot of teams.


    Does anyone really think Michigan deserved to be playing a bowl game??
  • Cleveland Buck
    TCU is a great team, but it took them playing a perfect game, Wisconsin missing a field goal, and some questionable calls for them to win by two. There were two great teams on the field tonight.
  • johngrizzly
    How many holding calls did Wisconsin get called for? Man, it looked like TCU was getting held all night.
  • oberhaus
    Michigan and NWstern should not have had New Years day bowls. The later the bowl, the better the competition and those two teams are simply not that good. If only NW had their QB.
  • Thinthickbigred
    Con_Alma;621034 wrote:The Big 10 is not a joke.

    You will argue with me over anything? Learn something about football first ... ok ..... Let me break this down to you since I need to .. I am an Ohio state and Big Ten fan .... I am so so so sick and disgusted over the way our teams have shamed our confrence ,Ohio state included . Yes I say the Big Ten is a frigging joke .. They are to the SEC.. This is rhetoric .. I am pizzed at us ,and our confrence ..they need to man up ... you are ued to cheering on half azzed programs so you settle for second best ..I do not .. I want some Big Ten ####### pride ..... Maybe maybe if enough of us blog a couple Ohio state kids could garner an ounce more strength and feel our anger and obliviate Arkansas.... The Sugar bowl is our Alamo people !!!!!
  • Con_Alma
    Thanks for sharing that!!!

    FWIW I have never argued with you and what you think about the Big 10 doesn't mean that what I think isn't any more inaccurate of an opinion.

    The Big 10 is one of the most successful and competitive conferences in the country. They are hardly a joke.